Niomi Smart #3 Trouble in paradise, did Joey flee? We don't know yet but await the fennel tea!

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QueenBW said:
I know we like to mock Niomi, but I won't mock her for anything mental health related. We don't actually know if she's going to actual therapy right now, on top of following mental health social media pages. Or if following these pages will give her a nudge in the direction of going to proper therapy.

I hope she does go because even as outsiders who only see a very curated version of her life, we can tell that she could benefit from some guidance/help.

If she stays at the stage of just following these pages without actual therapy, well, that'd be on her. We might never know. I'd be super shocked if she was open and candid about mental health and going to therapy on her channel.
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It wasn’t meant to be a mock. The people that said Niomi would benefit from therapy were clearly looking out for her and I think they were referring to an actual therapy session. I really don’t think they meant an Instagram therapist would suffice. But like you said, if that’s the step she chose, it’s on her.
 
palmer said:
Can we stop going on about who's following who and who's unfollowed who and whatnot. Some of yall clearly don't know how instagram works lol but honestly this stuff doesn't matter at all anyway. I still follow my ex's sisters on instagram even though we broke up 5 years ago, I haven't spoken to him since, and he's married to someone else now. It really doesn't mean tit. I doubt anyone's going to be rushing to unfollow people (they are grown ass adults -- i'm sure this is the last of their worries) and if they do, good for them. At this point we clearly don't need any more proof of the breakup so I don't think we need to be monitoring if joe's sister/brother/mom still follow her of all things.

I also think people are majorly overthinking Freddie's posts. As much as I appreciate my brother's girlfriend--if they broke up I wouldn't be thinking about how she might be interpreting my social media posts and whatnot. I would be there for my brother when he needs me, but otherwise I would just go on to live my own life and I probably wouldn't think much about his breakup on a day to day basis. No offense but again Freddie is a grown man and he has his own life. I don't think he's sitting here thinking about Niomi right now, much less Niomi's followers. He's also not an 'influencer' so I'm pretty sure he doesn't play these weird social media games and it probably hasn't even crossed his mind that people could be thinking he is. And to the posters theorizing about how Freddie would 'surely' notice a lot of people are suddenly watching his stories -- honestly yall, once I post an instagram story I don't ever go back to check how many people watched it or anything. Not everyone overthinks instagram like that! Some of the posters here sound really young and social media driven in a way that most people (such as Freddie) aren't at the end of the day lol.
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This could be very true of course, but I don’t think it points to being ‘really young and social media driven’ to check who has watched your stories. I would say that’s a fairly normal thing to do. I’m in my mid 30s and I know my friends and I would check. Not in an obsessive way but just out of interest. At the end of the day if someone has zero interest in who is watching their content, they probably wouldn’t have an Instagram in the first place or post photos. Also, it’s a bit different to compare people who have no fame at all with people who do have some. Despite Freddie seeming a chilled guy I would be surprised if he never checks who has watched/liked his posts. That’s my opinion.
 
janedowe said:
I tell you what, for a shy, not that keen to be on camera kinda guy, I’m not surprised that Joe ran for the hills - has anyone else clicked on the wedding planner? Jeez, Niomi fully had aspirations of being in Hello mag. Can you imagine Joe explaining he might want a smaller, more intimate wedding to Niomi and how that would have gone down?
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Just clocked that the wedding planners who sent Niomi the brownies also planned Joe's sister's wedding at Hedsor House.
 

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lilamay said:
Just clocked that the wedding planners who sent Niomi the brownies also planned Joe's sister's wedding at Hedsor House.
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To me, this just proves once again how much Niomi was willing to do for Joe, almost to a fault. Wouldn't you want to choose your own wedding planner or have a bit of individuality from your future sister-in-law? I think she was so desperate to be in those circles that she would've said yes to anything.
 
hnoz said:
I still don't understand how Niomi can eat like she does and work out as much as she portrays and still not have the tiniest bit of definition?? I'm not shaming her at all, she still looks great obviously but this is now going on 4 years of being super serious about working out, all the runs, yoga, pilates and not one tiny bit if muscle? It's all very weird.
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You need calories and protein to build muscle, especially as a woman. She definitely doesn't eat enough to fuel bodies for muscles to grow.
 
milanolo said:
Some of you said Niomi would benefit from some therapy...well, she’s now following an existential psychotherapist.
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Though I’m not sure if that’s what you guys had in mind...
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The stuff this woman is sharing isn’t bad per se but I think that following these kind of pages can sometimes just reinforce echo chamber thoughts you have already, that you selectively pick what you want to read and hear. It’s not the same as introspectively considering your actions and thinking patterns in a session with another person, such as CBT for example. I’m not bashing her for following all these pages but I don’t think they help you in the long run.
 
it appears as though they had an alright relationship, but i guess we didnt really see much of it.

the only thing where i remember them hanging out was in one of the vlogmas videos when joe was in india. his parents invited niomi around to hang out while joe was away. they apparently had an indian takeaway. i imagine niomi was probably freaking out at the thought of having a takeaway but probably had to play it cool lol. i cant imagine what she would of ordered

also sorry this is in reply to someone asking about the relationship between joe's parents and niomi, im new to tt and have no idea how you reply to someones comment 😅
 
bubbledogs said:
it appears as though they had an alright relationship, but i guess we didnt really see much of it.

the only thing where i remember them hanging out was in one of the vlogmas videos when joe was in india. his parents invited niomi around to hang out while joe was away. they apparently had an indian takeaway. i imagine niomi was probably freaking out at the thought of having a takeaway but probably had to play it cool lol. i cant imagine what she would of ordered

also sorry this is in reply to someone asking about the relationship between joe's parents and niomi, im new to tt and have no idea how you reply to someones comment 😅
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She likely got a Dahl or something, lol. Least Indian food is vegan friendly.
 
Why do people think Joe’s family are old money/would be embarrassed of her?

From what I’ve read of his father he started out as a pretty normal guy, was good at rugby and went to uni, then eventually became the coach that won the World Cup, which I’m guessing is why he got a knighthood.

They don’t seem to be old money, but a family with a dad who’s done well for himself.
 
hannah123 said:
Why do people think Joe’s family are old money/would be embarrassed of her?

From what I’ve read of his father he started out as a pretty normal guy, was good at rugby and went to uni, then eventually became the coach that won the World Cup, which I’m guessing is why he got a knighthood.

They don’t seem to be old money, but a family with a dad who’s done well for himself.
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Haha I know right! From reading this thread you’d think his family were landed aristocracy. Maybe it’s coming from people from the US who might have a bit of an idealised view of class relations in the UK. If you think Niomi was “marrying up” w/ Joe, you might have a very crude understanding of class in the UK.
 
hannah123 said:
Why do people think Joe’s family are old money/would be embarrassed of her?

From what I’ve read of his father he started out as a pretty normal guy, was good at rugby and went to uni, then eventually became the coach that won the World Cup, which I’m guessing is why he got a knighthood.

They don’t seem to be old money, but a family with a dad who’s done well for himself.
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Agreed. They always seemed very down to earth from what we saw (even Joe, Freddie and Jess too who must've had that instilled in them) despite the wealth and titles. Niomi's family were the ones who seemed like snobs and try-hards, IMHO.
 
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