Mia Jeal #2 Sugar Daddies & Sperm Donors too, but where’s Mabel? Oh yeah, in the jumperoo!

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Mia complains that Mabel isn’t in a good routine yet she keeps her up all hours of the night! No wonder she sleeps in so late in the morning and then she doesn’t go down for her naps well either because she’s not going to bed early enough she should at least be sleeping something like 7-7
 
Ngl, I think me and my mum spend more time with our pet cat than Mia does teaching Mabel new activities...

Our cat has 3 harnesses because she’s a timid rescue so we accompany her outside, she wakes my mum up at 5am for food, is left alone to sleep all the time, carries her toys downstairs in her mouth whilst meowing for us to play, we cream her eyes because she has conjunctivitis, my mum even cleans her teeth once every 2 days ffs 😭

Mabel isn’t a pet you can just stick somewhere to have a nap
 
How did you get to speak to her? It still says she hasn’t seen mine x

I do think Beth is more mature, despite being younger, I think she has a nice personality and doesn’t want to be involved in anything. The way she said “Mia told me to give my honest opinion” I think is her way of saying Mia told her before the video not to be nice about everything. I think when they are together they both act silly but beths recent vlogs she seems to act older than her sister!
When she posted her most recent video, she asked me to dm her. I do believe they are both just young girls and people notice that more when their together, hell I still act immature with my sister and shes 28 and I'm 18
 
i thought it was a religion??? what
It is, im wiccan myself and its just annoying to watch her sit there and confidently say "its something im definitely loving right now..." like when her aesthetic changes she'll just drop wicca like a hot stone. Either you are in the religion to learn and grow down whichever path you feel is your calling (im still learning as the years go by) or you need to take up something else for your chop-and-change "hobby" of choice.
 
It is, im wiccan myself and its just annoying to watch her sit there and confidently say "its something im definitely loving right now..." like when her aesthetic changes she'll just drop wicca like a hot stone. Either you are in the religion to learn and grow down whichever path you feel is your calling (im still learning as the years go by) or you need to take up something else for your chop-and-change "hobby" of choice.
wow what the heck!? kinda reminds me of girls who want to be buddhists for the aesthetic, wouldn't be surprised if she does that too! i hope mia can educate herself, because it can be hurtful what she's doing as i very much doubt she isn't doing it for a religious view point.
 
so, i had no idea that this forum existed before Mia's video but i want to air some things out about what some things Mia have said that i disagree with. Mia, if you're reading this just know that this isn't coming from a place of hate or anything like that. I still watch and enjoy most of your videos in both of your channels and you seem like a lovely girl. But every time someone disagrees with you, you shut then down so here I am expressing my opinion.

I've been watching Mia since 2018. I was heavily into piercings and I was browsing to see how to pierce your own smiley and that's how i found Mia. From the get go, I could relate to her especially at that time when I was having probably the worst year of my life yet. Piercings were an escape, so was dying my hair, etc.. Mia was a very small channel with a couple of videos that had a few thousands views but her subscriber count wasn't really high. Then she announced she was pregnant which kinda shocked me but not really y'know it can just happen to anyone. I became very curious to see what she was gonna do with the baby and when I found out she was keeping Mabel I was honestly very proud of her. Being a teen mum sounds very difficult especially because usually even if you love your partner you most likely won't be with them for the rest of your life. Also having a kid is very expensive and stressful, so like I said I was genuinely PROUD and also super excited to meet the baby.

Fast forward , Mabel is brought to life and I was so happy they were both safe and healthy and looking forward to Mia's journey. Maybe i could learn a couple of things myself and have a tiny snippet into what it's like to be a mum so when i have kids of my own in the future i kind of know what to expect, especially stuff like how it feels like to have a c session, post-partum shenanigans... I really enjoyed every video and I was filled with joy. I also noticed every since Mia got pregnant she definitely matured a lot and changed a lot for the better.

As time went on she started to ramble about a lot of things that i obviously didn't agree with. First thing she said she wanted more kids asap. I vividly remember commenting on her video how i think she should just wait and how not everything has to go as planned, got a couple likes but i'm pretty sure my comment is gone so :/ dunno if she took that the wrong way. I seriously don't understand what the rush for having a lot of kids back to back is. I understand where she's coming from we all have life long goals and one them for Mia was to be a young mum with a lot of kids which nothing wrong with that but I feel like she's very naive about it. Having kids isn't an easy job I think we all know that. yea they're cute, but they also are kind of a nightmare for the rest of your life until they move out because you have to have your eye on someone 24/7 making sure they're not doing dumb tit, making sure they're healthy etc etc so..? What baffles me more is that she wants to have these kids ALL ON HER OWN. And again, i understand her distrust towards men and relationships, because I have BPD myself so I get it but I'm very aware that me not trusting an entire group of people and not trusting my partner and hating my dad is just gonna do more bad than good for my soul. I, in no way shape of form, am not underestimating how she feels about her dad or her ex and I see a lot of people in the forum doing so and saying she's lying for views but that we don't know for sure. We don't know the full story and to be honest it's none of our business unless she decides to go more into detail so I'm just taking this face value so like i said I'm not underestimating her crappy relationships whatsoever but I do think she very much needs to work on her issues before having more children. You have no idea what I would've given to have a dad in my life, but mine didn't want to be involved at all no matter how many times I reached out he would just come and go. And I can see that's what Mia fears with her baby daddy, that he will do the same to Mabel or hurt her and I understand but there's so many sacrifices you need to do as a mum and if talking to your baby daddy so he can be involved in Mabel's life and just trying to keep him involved is what you have to do to prove to Mabel that it's not you it's him, then it needs to be done. I have a couple friends whose mum or dad wouldn't allow them to see their other parent and now they just resent them because even if the parent didn't want to be involved, they feel as though they took any opportunity of something happening away from them. That's my issue here, maybe her baby daddy wants her for money, maybe he just wants to see him damn child, maybe Mia has convinced herself that since he didn't care enough for her he won't care about Mabel or maybe I'm so wrong and he doesn't want to be involved and this rant is stupid but regardless of everything I think Mia needs to prove to Mabel she isn't keeping her child away from her dad because she will resent her when she hits the angsty teens.

I've seen a lot of people talk about how moving out is expensive and a bad idea which i kinda agree with. However, Mia has said her grandpa is buying a house and rebuilding it for her so makes sense. You guys are forgetting that luckily Mia is in a very privileged spot and is able to that. As far as the utilities of the house goes, idk how things in the UK works but hopefully it's gonna be fine and she'll be fine. At least she isn't too far up youtube's ass and is going to further her education which i congratulate her for. But please Mia, if you're reading this, you seem like a very lost girl. You need to work on your emotional trauma before having more children. And if you want more children but from a sperm donor, instead just foster some kids!!! This world is so over populated already there's so many orphan kids who would love to have a home in a house that would love them dearly.

I don't really have much else to say other than I feel bad for the girl, but if she reads this I hope she doesn't take it as a form of hate or whatever because I'm just concerned. Focus on your baby, your studies and moving out and foster some kids if you really want to have kids around. The whole idea of birthing a child is to have a family with a partner not to have them as puppies. I'm sure she's an amazing and is doing the best she can. She's young and will make mistakes but I hope she listens to some of us who just wants the best for her.

Stay safe out there xx
 
so, i had no idea that this forum existed before Mia's video but i want to air some things out about what some things Mia have said that i disagree with. Mia, if you're reading this just know that this isn't coming from a place of hate or anything like that. I still watch and enjoy most of your videos in both of your channels and you seem like a lovely girl. But every time someone disagrees with you, you shut then down so here I am expressing my opinion.

I've been watching Mia since 2018. I was heavily into piercings and I was browsing to see how to pierce your own smiley and that's how i found Mia. From the get go, I could relate to her especially at that time when I was having probably the worst year of my life yet. Piercings were an escape, so was dying my hair, etc.. Mia was a very small channel with a couple of videos that had a few thousands views but her subscriber count wasn't really high. Then she announced she was pregnant which kinda shocked me but not really y'know it can just happen to anyone. I became very curious to see what she was gonna do with the baby and when I found out she was keeping Mabel I was honestly very proud of her. Being a teen mum sounds very difficult especially because usually even if you love your partner you most likely won't be with them for the rest of your life. Also having a kid is very expensive and stressful, so like I said I was genuinely PROUD and also super excited to meet the baby.

Fast forward , Mabel is brought to life and I was so happy they were both safe and healthy and looking forward to Mia's journey. Maybe i could learn a couple of things myself and have a tiny snippet into what it's like to be a mum so when i have kids of my own in the future i kind of know what to expect, especially stuff like how it feels like to have a c session, post-partum shenanigans... I really enjoyed every video and I was filled with joy. I also noticed every since Mia got pregnant she definitely matured a lot and changed a lot for the better.

As time went on she started to ramble about a lot of things that i obviously didn't agree with. First thing she said she wanted more kids asap. I vividly remember commenting on her video how i think she should just wait and how not everything has to go as planned, got a couple likes but i'm pretty sure my comment is gone so :/ dunno if she took that the wrong way. I seriously don't understand what the rush for having a lot of kids back to back is. I understand where she's coming from we all have life long goals and one them for Mia was to be a young mum with a lot of kids which nothing wrong with that but I feel like she's very naive about it. Having kids isn't an easy job I think we all know that. yea they're cute, but they also are kind of a nightmare for the rest of your life until they move out because you have to have your eye on someone 24/7 making sure they're not doing dumb tit, making sure they're healthy etc etc so..? What baffles me more is that she wants to have these kids ALL ON HER OWN. And again, i understand her distrust towards men and relationships, because I have BPD myself so I get it but I'm very aware that me not trusting an entire group of people and not trusting my partner and hating my dad is just gonna do more bad than good for my soul. I, in no way shape of form, am not underestimating how she feels about her dad or her ex and I see a lot of people in the forum doing so and saying she's lying for views but that we don't know for sure. We don't know the full story and to be honest it's none of our business unless she decides to go more into detail so I'm just taking this face value so like i said I'm not underestimating her crappy relationships whatsoever but I do think she very much needs to work on her issues before having more children. You have no idea what I would've given to have a dad in my life, but mine didn't want to be involved at all no matter how many times I reached out he would just come and go. And I can see that's what Mia fears with her baby daddy, that he will do the same to Mabel or hurt her and I understand but there's so many sacrifices you need to do as a mum and if talking to your baby daddy so he can be involved in Mabel's life and just trying to keep him involved is what you have to do to prove to Mabel that it's not you it's him, then it needs to be done. I have a couple friends whose mum or dad wouldn't allow them to see their other parent and now they just resent them because even if the parent didn't want to be involved, they feel as though they took any opportunity of something happening away from them. That's my issue here, maybe her baby daddy wants her for money, maybe he just wants to see him damn child, maybe Mia has convinced herself that since he didn't care enough for her he won't care about Mabel or maybe I'm so wrong and he doesn't want to be involved and this rant is stupid but regardless of everything I think Mia needs to prove to Mabel she isn't keeping her child away from her dad because she will resent her when she hits the angsty teens.

I've seen a lot of people talk about how moving out is expensive and a bad idea which i kinda agree with. However, Mia has said her grandpa is buying a house and rebuilding it for her so makes sense. You guys are forgetting that luckily Mia is in a very privileged spot and is able to that. As far as the utilities of the house goes, idk how things in the UK works but hopefully it's gonna be fine and she'll be fine. At least she isn't too far up youtube's ass and is going to further her education which i congratulate her for. But please Mia, if you're reading this, you seem like a very lost girl. You need to work on your emotional trauma before having more children. And if you want more children but from a sperm donor, instead just foster some kids!!! This world is so over populated already there's so many orphan kids who would love to have a home in a house that would love them dearly.

I don't really have much else to say other than I feel bad for the girl, but if she reads this I hope she doesn't take it as a form of hate or whatever because I'm just concerned. Focus on your baby, your studies and moving out and foster some kids if you really want to have kids around. The whole idea of birthing a child is to have a family with a partner not to have them as puppies. I'm sure she's an amazing and is doing the best she can. She's young and will make mistakes but I hope she listens to some of us who just wants the best for her.

Stay safe out there xx
Mia has said she wants to use a donor because she doesn’t want them taken away which means if she fostered there’s a chance they could and with her unstable stories she may not get the chance especially since she admitted online that she was a drug and alcohol addict too, I think her having kids through a donor could hurt them aswell especially if she tries for her build a baby way of a mixed race child that child could grow up with identity issues because they have no one there that they can relate to for their black heritage not to mention if she has multiple baby daddy’s that can cause identity issues for the children again because their all from separate places if that makes sense not to mention if she did end up marrying someone she said on a video that she’d tell them she wouldn’t have kids with them imagine how soul destroying that could be what if they wanted kids? They’d leave her real fast with her childish and self centred opinions if she actually says that to someone I feel so bad for them and hope that they’d find someone who can give them happiness and children not just use them and not actually create a life with them I really can’t stand the way she talks about men as if their the worst people on the planet and i don’t think if she said to any guy “I want to be in a relationship but I don’t want to have your children I want them from a random man” that any guy would stick around after that she has a lot of growing up to do clearly she needs to speak to someone professionally because this is not a healthy outlook on life
 
I’ll be honest. During my many many dark days of postnatal psychosis and in the end a long road of depression . I found little hobbies like that so helpful to just take my mind of stuff. I got into tarot cards and crystal healing after a woman handed me a rose quartz in a pub after I told her I was going through a worrying time. I knew nothing about this stuff and they’re things I’m not really interested in anymore. At the time they gave me focus and a sense of meaning when they helped me get through a lot of crap.

my life wasn’t all over social media and at the time I was heavily advised to stay away from it. Following a diagnosis. Mia should consider coming offline..It’s hard when she’s building a career exposing her life online but she’s entitled to a break. I think she needs it before things get worse for her. She’s all over the place. “I want a baby, I want twins, I don’t want a baby dad, someone give me a baby, men are trash, I want a husband, I can take criticism, I’m easily offended, you’re all idiots”and that’s just the tip of it all. She’s out of control.
 
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Hi guys been watching this thread about halfway into the first one , never felt the need to comment but seeing her tik tok about being disappointed if she had another girl ... I remember way back ( during pregnancy I believe) she said that she’s glad she was having a girl ( the gorgeous Mabel) and would like just girls as she wouldn’t know how to look after a boy ? Please don’t quote me on this but I’m pretty damn sure this is what she said. Also , what winds me up is her tik toks about getting verbal abuse in public about being a teen mum.. yet in other tik toks and videos when asked if she was treated differently or judged by strangers for being a teen mum she said no!! So what one is it 🙄 it’s clearly for clout and attention this is why I barely watch her videos anymore. All things said I do believe she’s a great mum to her beautiful daughter , but come on Mia, show Mabel more being engaged in sensory activities rather than new hobbies and ignoring her when she clearly wants a cuddle from her mummy! Xx one example btw - this tik tok she admits to not getting weird looks in public ... yet someone supposedly calls her baby a rat? Tiktok unsafe link https://tattle.life/threads/19920/
Also found the YouTube vid from 4:45 mins
 
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Mia has said she wants to use a donor because she doesn’t want them taken away which means if she fostered there’s a chance they could and with her unstable stories she may not get the chance especially since she admitted online that she was a drug and alcohol addict too, I think her having kids through a donor could hurt them aswell especially if she tries for her build a baby way of a mixed race child that child could grow up with identity issues because they have no one there that they can relate to for their black heritage not to mention if she has multiple baby daddy’s that can cause identity issues for the children again because their all from separate places if that makes sense not to mention if she did end up marrying someone she said on a video that she’d tell them she wouldn’t have kids with them imagine how soul destroying that could be what if they wanted kids? They’d leave her real fast with her childish and self centred opinions if she actually says that to someone I feel so bad for them and hope that they’d find someone who can give them happiness and children not just use them and not actually create a life with them I really can’t stand the way she talks about men as if their the worst people on the planet and i don’t think if she said to any guy “I want to be in a relationship but I don’t want to have your children I want them from a random man” that any guy would stick around after that she has a lot of growing up to do clearly she needs to speak to someone professionally because this is not a healthy outlook on life

OMG i completely forgot about the mixed raced babies she wants! LMFAO idk what is up with a lot of white girls just straight up fetishizing black men, asian men and mixed babies. I am mixed, but I'm from the Caribbean so it's pretty common in our population to have mixed people and race related stuff didn't really bother me until I moved to the US where so many guys would fetishize the fact that i'm basically white but with black girl features. So many people had zero respect for me for so long, i can't even imagine growing up a lightskin in the countryside of the UK. Also so many people have this misconception that when a black person and a white person have a baby, the baby is gonna come out with lighskin! This is so wrong, these babies can be born literally any color. For example, both my mum and my dad have black and white parents and my dad came out pretty dark, my mum came out a little lighter than him so you would expect I was gonna be their skin color but I'm literally pale for most of the year. So when she said those things about wanting mixed babies I was thrown off ngl, cuz it's okay wanting to be with a black guy but if you just wanna be with them because the babies are gonna look cute then why- anyways...

On another note, nothing irks me more than women or men who straight up loathe the other gender. My friend is currently going through a "duck men" phase and like it's okay to have some issues with some guys but you can't just hate guys and then expect them to date you. Make it make sense. I feel like if I hated men the last thing I would do is birth some children I don't know it's just weird. But you made some points that I didn't even noticed or completely forgot to mention so thanks for adding on to the conversation.
 
What has Maddie done? I don’t watch her much

Maddie has gotten into a lot of drama, I think she got exposed once for neglecting her daughter, let's her daughter eat stuff off the dirty floor (there's a video where she eats a cookie with visible hairs on it off the floor) has broken childcare (?) laws in Texas, mostly about carseats. Let her daughter lick the walls in the doctors office, etc etc. Maddie may be a good mum otherwise but she's a crappy parent (as in she doesn't parent) in my opinion. Look up some videos either if hers or some compilations or whatever they are and you might hopefully understand more because I'm horrible at explaining.
 
Maddie has gotten into a lot of drama, I think she got exposed once for neglecting her daughter, let's her daughter eat stuff off the dirty floor (there's a video where she eats a cookie with visible hairs on it off the floor) has broken childcare (?) laws in Texas, mostly about carseats. Let her daughter lick the walls in the doctors office, etc etc. Maddie may be a good mum otherwise but she's a crappy parent (as in she doesn't parent) in my opinion. Look up some videos either if hers or some compilations or whatever they are and you might hopefully understand more because I'm horrible at explaining.

She also laughed at her baby falling down a step behind her in a video before
 
My thoughts on her latest vlog. Still so sad to see Mabel plonked on that bed with no toys, resorting to firstly chewing on the book, then on the phone. Sure I heard Mia saying that it was 11pm as well, after preaching about routines. She is really starting to grate on my nerves!

I had a challenging teenage daughter and by God did she put me through my paces, but I never gave up, I kept her on the straight and narrow and she is now a college lecturer and a lovely mum to a gorgeous 10 month baby boy, with a baby girl due in a few months too! I don't really know where I'm going with this lol. I think what I'm trying to say is that Mia's mum really needs to reign her in and tell her the way she's acting is so wrong! What really got to me tonight was when Mia was advising everyone to journal their thoughts. She actually said to her minion followers, 'you can buy a book from the pound shop, it doesn't have to be a snazzy one like mine!' I mean like who does she think she is? The patronising, condescending way she speaks is really awful. I don't think at 17 that she has earned the right to take the moral high ground quite yet. She's got such a high opinion of herself and clearly thinks she's learned all life's lessons at the tender age of 17, it really is cringeworthy and her mother needs to step in before she spirals out of control!

The girl is getting to be an embarrassment and I don't know if I feel sorry for her, or if I'm angry with her. Either way I do feel like she needs a positive and supportive role model in her life, I feel like she's acting out now and is crying out for help, someone needs to step up and help her, and give her guidance along the way, she really does need it!
 
Maddie has gotten into a lot of drama, I think she got exposed once for neglecting her daughter, let's her daughter eat stuff off the dirty floor (there's a video where she eats a cookie with visible hairs on it off the floor) has broken childcare (?) laws in Texas, mostly about carseats. Let her daughter lick the walls in the doctors office, etc etc. Maddie may be a good mum otherwise but she's a crappy parent (as in she doesn't parent) in my opinion. Look up some videos either if hers or some compilations or whatever they are and you might hopefully understand more because I'm horrible at explaining.

I’ve never watched Maddie before but I think you made such a good differentiation here between being a good mum and being a good parent. I think Mia is a lot like that. I don’t doubt that Mia is a good mum to Mabel, but I haven’t seen her do much parenting of her.
 
I’ve never watched Maddie before but I think you made such a good differentiation here between being a good mum and being a good parent. I think Mia is a lot like that. I don’t doubt that Mia is a good mum to Mabel, but I haven’t seen her do much parenting of her.

Personally I think that a mum is the person who takes care of you, feeds you, is the one to cuddle you and you can talk to, stuff like that.

A parent is someone who teaches and educates their child, shows them right and wrong, takes opportunities for learning, not for laughing (I. E. encouraging) at their child and making a comment on it ( E. G. "eww" "that's disgusting" etc)

A parent raises you and prepares you for the world, not everyone can be a parent.

A mother is your friend (hopefully) and the one you can (once again, hopefully) turn to I'm your times of need for a chat or cuddle. Everyone can be a mum, all you need is a kid.

I'd go more into detail but I wouldn't want to make this overly long.
 
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