Llewelyn Davies & Rhys Davies / Champions of Mind / TTTOfficial #2
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Whoops i said it
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Spiderplant
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Excellent!!The comments on that video
Apologies if already shared!
InstaCasualty
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The comments on that video
Apologies if already shared!
I would like to thank the Tattler who dropped some truth bombs there. Excellent work. Although the truth is, nobody watches their videos anyway
Cloak and Dagger
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I think you’re giving him too much credit to be honest!View attachment 601631 q
Apologies if anyone else picked up on this and I missed it but is it just a coincidence that he posts a video about "haters" and his T-shirt is emblazoned with the letters T.L. Would anybody really be sound wound up by Tattle Life that they would actually do this?
maddogmoondog
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This is gold - 9/10’s
That’s not really your garden as your renting it and that’s the only part of YOUR garden. Don’t even have enough room to put your table chairs on your only patio so it sits in the middle of the grass winning at life Rhys Davies you really are
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That’s not really your garden as your renting it and that’s the only part of YOUR garden. Don’t even have enough room to put your table chairs on your only patio so it sits in the middle of the grass
winning at life Rhys Davies you really are
AWL
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Rhys Davies mate .... who are you engaged to?
You’re single.
Unless you stop with all the lies and cons you’ll remain that way for a long time.
Have you even got any true friends? Or just people you con with your fake BS life?
Hangers on that can’t see through your lies..... but they all will soon.
Anyone thinking of investing in this fraud- r
Ladies ....run a mile from this man.
You’re single.
Unless you stop with all the lies and cons you’ll remain that way for a long time.
Have you even got any true friends? Or just people you con with your fake BS life?
Hangers on that can’t see through your lies..... but they all will soon.
Anyone thinking of investing in this fraud- r
Ladies ....run a mile from this man.
Hello Rhys Davies ....
Do you like my profile photo? I’m going to privately message this photo to everyone that likes or comments on your posts.
You’re welcome mate.
Who are you engaged to?
You’re single.
Unless you stop with all the lies and cons you’ll remain that way for a long time.
Have you even got any true friends? Or just people you con with your fake BS life?
Hangers on that can’t see through your lies..... but they all will soon.
Anyone thinking of investing in this fraud- don’t.
Ladies ....run a mile from this man.
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Hereforthetruth
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This makes sense. They usually hang off someone for credibility. That's what happened with James Burtt and then Sarah Akwisombe for sure. I do wonder if James was watching from the sidelines last year through his fingers. Rhys and Llewelyn Davies are categorically NOT credible on their own and nobody sensible will touch them with a barge pole after Akwisombe saga mushroomed into nuclear cloud last year and since anyone credible will do their research, the Tattle thread comes up as top result on Google followed by Sarah Akwisombe newspaper coverage.
Question to you if I may: how were you treated as a member of inner circle? How was it working with them? If that's okay to ask, how much and how often you had to pay them. Did you have daily calls? What were their methods? And finally, what made you stop (well done for doing so!)
I realise that's quite a lot of detail I am asking for so absolutely feel free to decline to answer but I am just very curious what their MO is for reeling people in longer term and this may be useful for lurkers who are still undecided or are in love-bombing stage where they may have doubts but are still under their spell.
You know he only posted this photo because we said here he came off Facebook to hide that he's not show ready
So these lot will prey on their victims - any sight enquiry or interest these would be straight on the phone trying to ‘close them’
This happened to me with Lewy, he would ask very straight forward questions and he would be very slick and make out he cared and could ‘change your life’
He would use the fact he was a family guy and ex this ex that and use his ‘charisma’ to charm people he was an expert at that - he would know your vulnerabilities and play on the fact he was the answer to your prayers using a lot of good words language and promises.
He always would claim he would over promise and overdeliver but it was the complete opposite!!
When he would turn up he was the flash the cash watches and designer clothes and would talk a lot about what he has achieved and all the success he has.
At that time it was believable and I was a bad space so I clinged on thinking he was going to ‘change my life’ and figure out my problems and make me a millionaire.
He would openly tell me that ‘it’s easy for you to become a millionaire and earn this and that’
Christ I was so naive.
Over a period he would ‘bill me’ for random amounts for a period of 6 weeks or so untill we agreed a monthly payment
looking back I cannot believe I was doing this, I just thought well it’s the going rate for a coach
I couldn’t afford the money, he would meet me when he could and there was no structure
It was talking hype, if I’m honest back then he had a number of clients and I think he was genuinely just serving a number of people but it wasn’t structured or had any real purpose.
After a a while when the courses started rolling out and events they would hard sell their clients and use manipulation to make them pay, passive aggressive tax tics ‘you need to be here’ and put pressure on youto pay in a very clever manipulative way
Then as you became more involved in the ‘circle’ you delay part of it all and like you was part of something good.
When James Burrt was there he made it more professional and people had more trust in them. The events were well organised and marketed so it was easy to buy into the hype and it looked and felt legit - however it made it more easier for them to use their manipulation behind the scenes to fleese their clients
I was paying him a monthly fee which went up aswell as their courses - ‘sometimes he would give you a ‘freebee’ for being so ‘focussed’ and this was just a clever little way to keep you sweet.
After a while they would bring out ‘masterminds’ and other courses and also a yearly ‘annual pass’ and it was easy for them charge extortionate amounts for it which they did for a period of about a year.
I’m not ready to disclose what I spent but it was a huge amount I couldn’t afford
Iknew deep down it wasn’t right but I thought that I was investing in myself and it was part of what I needed to do fo myself and business
I ignored every red flag, every warning from my family even went against my gut.
There was a few people at the time that were in the same boat that spent a lot of money too.
If I’m honest some of the content was well structured and also quite good however it was from the brains of James Burtt and other sources they had just ripped off and regurgitated.
After a Period of time one by one a person of the ‘inner circle’ would walk away which started the Domino Effect.
When James Burtt left it was the start of their demise because they was hanging on to him and he was really their only route to market
The podcast with Grant Cardone wasn’t them it was all arranged by James Burtt he was the face they just tagged along and took the glory
I’d love to know what he reallyknows but I think James keeps quiet to save face and his reputation also I know he was also being manipulated and was going along with it
I remember a conversation saying I couldn’t afford the amount I was paying a month so reduced it bu 75% I knew then that I was being taken advantage of.
Then I just ignored the daily mesages and communication then just walked away after a while the blocking on social media started.
It took me a while to come to terms with it all but like anything like this when you look in from a different perspective your realise how bad and toxic it was.
being in those rooms on those courses with the ‘inner circle’ was toxic really, it was them just playing everyone off eachother and trying to manipulate everyone as part of their tribe
They would humiliate people infront of each other at times snd there was no regard sometimes for people’s feelings.
They would take behind everyone’s backs to their clients and make out ‘you was better than them’ which was so so bad
They had no secrets or regard for privacy for people .
At the time you fealt like it was your Circle and superior to everyone else when realy it was a toxic environment
some of the people there I still am in touch with and their genuine people, we all have the same story - we was vulnerable, we desired more, and we got taken for a ride by Champions of Mind and Lewy and Rhys.
Also at the time the Self Developement space was quite on inondated and these guys stood out, with James Burtt they were the people to go.
Christ writing this gives me goosebumps because my life is changed so much and I have changed so much.
All I can say is that it taught me a very very valuable life lesson.
I still have my moments over it but I know that I’ll move on for the better, some people may not I’ll continue to speak my truth and hopefully by writing here may deter others.
I actually spoke personally to Sarah A and she gave me a real insight to how manipulative they were and how much of a snake Lewi was - she told me about her sexual relationship with Lewi and how he preyed on her.
All I can say is anyone can fall for this bullshit, when you are vulnerable you seek help and guidence but it’s just so important you have your wits about you and listen to Red Flags
I take down responsibility because I could have said no and I didn’t have to make the choices I did. The thing is when your looking for hope and put it in people for something in return you at high risk of being take for a ride
My work now is trying to encourage others to avoid this sort of thing
Happiness and success comes from the inside out not paying money for a someone
maddogmoondog
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i think your really brave and amazing for posting this. It’s never easy to admit your wrong or you’ve been scammed by Rhys Davies and Llewelyn Davies. They prey on the most vulnerable for a reason, exactly what you have written. To come here and make more people aware of what they do, how they treat people is something other people can’t necessary do - this is exactly why tattle exists - not to HATE but to make people think choice before they send money to these two clowns.
Tony Arnold
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I know this an anonymous post, but I can't imagine it was easy to write/revisit. Well done for doing so - it's invaluable to hear from people that have actually been drawn in as clients' of Rhys and Llewellyn Davies / Champions of Mind and learning the reality of what goes on.
It just goes to show that our constant banging on about how these two are not, in any way, as successful and/or rich as they portray is important. It's literally all they have to sell.
If the facade cracks and people understand that they don't own the houses, most of the cars are old, untaxed, un-MOT'd, there's no evidence of huge profits in company accounts, they never made it as footballers, boxers, actors, they never buy the companies or start the brands they boast about endlessly, then they have nothing to sell.
No followers on social media. Dreadful, boring, repetitive content (which is why they have no followers). YouTube channels that no-one cares about. And while I'm not particularly comfortable bringing the personal into it, they've relied on splashing their "perfect family lives" all over social when it suits them, so it's fair game to point out that their relationships with wives/fiances and kids/stepkids have all fallen apart too.
Winning at life? My f**king arse.
Do
Not
Give
Them
Any
Money
Hereforthetruth
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Thankyou it’s not easy and I don’t declare what I spent with them to people around me yet because to be honest I’m to ashamed and it would cause worry and I don’t want that
I’ll wait untill I’m in a more stable position and then speak about it
I’m happy to speak about my experiences
These guys are dangerous dirty and also weak cowards with a huge front and ego
They need to be brought down
one thing I will say is that they are fragile and worried about other people’s opinions.
Cloak and Dagger
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This is plain to see simply from that rant that Rhys had about ‘haters’ the other week! He looked so rattled by the whole thing.
I have also just listened to the podcast episode where they talk about ‘sheeple’ and again, he gets irrationally angry about one of them filing in their census. It’s a bit worrying just how quickly he goes from calm to absolutely raging about something as trivial as filling in a few bits of information about himself. I think the man has serious anger issues and a very fragile ego.
Looking in as an outsider, in a strange way I pity them, they try so hard to look successful but they just come across as lonely.
I completely understand though that if you’d lost any money to these robbing bastards you’d feel anything but pity!
Spiderplant
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As maddogmoondog said, you are very brave and I congratulate you on getting out, these pair are pure criminals just wrapped up in different sunday market fake clothes. This thread is not a hate thread as many others probably are on Tattle, but this is a public service to hopefully alert future and existing victims of the criminal behaviour of Llewelyn and Rhys Davies when a search is done. People really need to do due diligence, especially when spending silly money.
Keep strong and hopefully karma will play out .
Hereforthetruth
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Yes completely agree, sometimes I could realy get on here and call them all sorts but as you say it become a ‘hate’ thread when really I want the truth to be said so if someone sees this they can walk way and not make the mistakes I do and many other people
InstaCasualty
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Thank you so much for answering the questions although, as others noted, it must have been hard to revisit this in detail. You generously sharing this experience is so crucial to people not being caught in Rhys and Llewelyn Davies's web of lies. At the start of those threads we had visiting people asking for direct experiences and although we had plenty of them from people caught in the Sarah Akwisombe/Llewelyn Davies scam and there are plenty in Sarah Akwisombe threads, having those testimonials in detail with how they work is priceless.
Part of why they have been able to operate this way is that they were and are still counting on people not wanting to talk about being scammed/abused as it is a difficult subject and many were left feeling shamed or indeed not wanting to wreck their reputation by association so you speaking out matters.
Glad you drew positives from this experience in lessons learned and are sharing these for the benefit of others.
I do wonder when Matt Hall, Alec Witts and the Parmar siblings will learn. My gut feel is that there is not much mileage left there.
Hereforthetruth
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Ive met Alec and Pretesh -Alec is a nice enough lad but very meak and insecure it was a while ago though, my feeling is he could be so much more for himself and he’d do better for himself pulling away, he’s relied on Lewi to control his actions for years, unfortunately there that loyalty there that creates fear inpeople to break away.
Alec seems to have some property business and he needs to be very careful Lewi doesn’t try and penetrate that and scam him because it would be a disaster. Lewi will be all over this.
Lewi has no issues trying to figure out how much you earn and wants to know for his pocket only.
He will try and scam what he can based on your access to funds regardless if you borrow it or not
Pretesh is a very lost insecure guy, and has a persona online that what he is in person, he’s seems smart but again Lewi is just a crutch for him, I think he’s not really suited to coaching people or fitness I think he tries hard but you can see he’s not really cut out for it. I think he needs to pull away recollect himself and start again and drop the fake ego because he’d be a much better believable person.
Never met Matt Hall but the guy is seems so fake and trying to model Lewi, he was in a partnership with someone but he fled the scene as rightly so because I think he knew what the outcome would be.
Also note - any one you mention to These two that could be a risk to them blowing their cover or bringing you away they immediately try and tit down and pollute your mind that their wrong
Proper manipulation
Any one reading this - do not get involved with these two
Yes hey are professional scammers and very very good and calculated at what they do.
I’m fact - let me take that back, their not good their just insecure criminals that know no different which is why their obsessed with doing no good to people
Quite enjoying see Rhys claim he is struggling to sleep because he is just so positive and excited. I think he forgetting the big dose of Tren-A, and a combination of Clen, T3 and/or Yohimbine that he is taking to bring on the drastic weight loss. Transparency as always…
Spiderplant
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And sleeping on the sofa, having to keep an eye on social media 24/7 in case anyone dares speak the TRUTH, he can delete ASAP.
He ‘hates’ this thread because he cannot control the narrative.
Some good content from Rhys today: “I’m in the fortunate position where I can buy everything new”. Excluding, I presume, the 15 year old Bentley, the 8 year old Range Rover, and the 2 year old leased Lambo?! Or the rented semi- detached ‘dream house’?
Things got even better this evening when he let us know that he was ‘pool shopping’. I expect the pool to arrive after the cinema in the ‘sellar’, and the new Range Rover Sport that he ordered when he was on holiday back in January (we don’t forget these things).
For a man with such massive intellect (I think he is mixed up on what that word actually means), he is all over the shop at the moment. On the plus side, he noted the criticism on the thread about how he had hung his ‘art portfolio’ wrongly the other week, so paid a man to do it for his latest abomination.
Things got even better this evening when he let us know that he was ‘pool shopping’. I expect the pool to arrive after the cinema in the ‘sellar’, and the new Range Rover Sport that he ordered when he was on holiday back in January (we don’t forget these things).
For a man with such massive intellect (I think he is mixed up on what that word actually means), he is all over the shop at the moment. On the plus side, he noted the criticism on the thread about how he had hung his ‘art portfolio’ wrongly the other week, so paid a man to do it for his latest abomination.
Cloak and Dagger
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Wheres this new YouTube content? I’m pretty sure it’s only people on here who are watching it now!
They’re experiencing astronomical growth in subscribers now, 234 at the time of writing.
There are categorically NO YOUTUBERS showing this level of subscriber GROWTH
Lets not forget he’s supposed to be on holiday right now!
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