Liam Payne #3

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Randomly I used to work in an undertakers and it's absolutely horrendous to repatriate a body - the amount of paperwork required is a nightmare. And there's a special coffin with a viewing window for transportation to avoid opening them because once a body is out of a fridge ....... enough said.

I sort of hope that Liam isn't made into some sort of hero figure because he died young. He was a very talented man but also had a lot of demons and has left a young child to grow up without him because of his lifestyle choices. I also felt very uncomfortable with the coverage around others like Heath Ledger, Amy Winehouse, Peaches Geldof etc.
 
Msellars97 said:
Lurked on here since I heard the news about Liam’s passing..

I personally don’t think tracking a plane isn’t a big deal as some are making out. It’s public information, anyone can find out departure/flight information by just searching it. When the Queen died, I personally tracked the entire flight. It made me feel comforted to know that it was a safe final journey back to London. I wouldn’t say I was a big fan of Liam or 1D but I can understand why that many people would track the flight. They wanted to make sure that final journey home was safe. Regarding sharing it in an online forum, as said before, it’s public information. All anyone needs to do is search. It’s really not that deep.
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I find it odd that people suggesting privacy and saying it’s weird to track the flight, are making these statements on a gossip site.
 
I take it the car/transport will have a security or police escort? Or will they try and do it under the radar?

I feel absolutely awful for his family I was never a 1D fan even though I was in their fan age bracket I just never got the hype and as sad as it is it hasn’t really affected me until I Saw the plane I agree with comments his dad has been extraordinary and I can’t imagine the heartbreak I also feel for his mother I don’t know seeing the plane has affected me and I just thought imagine if it were my son. No parent should loose their child no matter the age 💔 I hope they get peace and respect to say their see you laters ❤️
 
Airports are used to dealing with this as are undertakers. They could be repatriating several bodies today without being grim and there would be no way of telling who was who. It's treated as freight, albeit very delicate freight so will use the cargo transport entrances/exits. Hopefully no paps would be that desperate....... :(
 
Tofino said:
Oh yeah I agree. I just think generally speaking that lining the streets can be respectful. And it will vary by family or even individuals who would feel comforted by it and who would find it intrusive.
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but those posters are contradicting themselves. I posted about the flight but I don’t have an issue with people tracking flights so I’m not contradicting myself.
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The people lining the streets thing I have mixed feelings about.

my mum died during Covid times when restrictions were ten people or less. Being from a small town where everybody knew everybody, we let people know what time and date we'd be leaving the funeral home so that people who wished to could pay their respects. And there were maybe 300 people who stood in the streets of said small town. For the most part, it was lovely, incredibly comforting to know so many people thought well of her - she was someone who worked in hospitality for most of her life and therefore knew everyone. however, years down the line, it just feels kind of gross, almost voyeuristic. Like the worst experience of my entire life was just being viewed by half the town.

And so, I understand why people would want to do a procession and show up to pay their respects. Liam meant a lot to so many people. However, unless his family specifically say that would be ok and they welcome a procession, nobody should be going anywhere near his funeral or the route his coffin will take.
 
Okayem said:
The people lining the streets thing I have mixed feelings about.

my mum died during Covid times when restrictions were ten people or less. Being from a small town where everybody knew everybody, we let people know what time and date we'd be leaving the funeral home so that people who wished to could pay their respects. And there were maybe 300 people who stood in the streets of said small town. For the most part, it was lovely, incredibly comforting to know so many people thought well of her - she was someone who worked in hospitality for most of her life and therefore knew everyone. however, years down the line, it just feels kind of gross, almost voyeuristic. Like the worst experience of my entire life was just being viewed by half the town.

And so, I understand why people would want to do a procession and show up to pay their respects. Liam meant a lot to so many people. However, unless his family specifically say that would be ok and they welcome a procession, nobody should be going anywhere near his funeral or the route his coffin will take.
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To be honest no one can stop anyone standing freely on a public road while a car goes by. They are worse things people can do re the funeral then to simple stand watching Afew cars
With people in go by.
 
Okayem said:
The people lining the streets thing I have mixed feelings about.

my mum died during Covid times when restrictions were ten people or less. Being from a small town where everybody knew everybody, we let people know what time and date we'd be leaving the funeral home so that people who wished to could pay their respects. And there were maybe 300 people who stood in the streets of said small town. For the most part, it was lovely, incredibly comforting to know so many people thought well of her - she was someone who worked in hospitality for most of her life and therefore knew everyone. however, years down the line, it just feels kind of gross, almost voyeuristic. Like the worst experience of my entire life was just being viewed by half the town.

And so, I understand why people would want to do a procession and show up to pay their respects. Liam meant a lot to so many people. However, unless his family specifically say that would be ok and they welcome a procession, nobody should be going anywhere near his funeral or the route his coffin will take.
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I agree with you and I am sorry for your loss. You did what you thought best at the time.

princess0121do1 said:
To be honest no one can stop anyone standing freely on a public road while a car goes by. They are worse things people can do re the funeral then to simple stand watching Afew cars
With people in go by.
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Yes, there are worse things but surely IF his family request privacy then that should be respected?
 
Usually I'd think nothing wrong with people lining streets to pay their respects, but for this it seems somewhat different,as when this happens on a more normal basis there would be no public interest in photographing the deceased's loved ones....As shown earlier in the thread we all have differences where we draw the line, lining the street quickly becomes just a quick picture taken of his friends, family, loved ones, who shouldn't have to worry about that at a time like this. If people wish to remember Liam it would be lovely to see their time and effort go towards charities that were close to his heart, especially smaller charities he supported who have sadly lost their biggest patron :( What a wonderful legacy that would be ❤️
 
I look on flight radar all the time and nosey at the top 10 tracked flights. It’s interesting. Saw the top one was Rio > Heathrow and saw the time it landed. Realised that was the one Liam was probably on. All I thought was that I’m glad him and his dad are on there way home and that was it. Didn’t sit there watching it for hours on end.

There have been people on this thread discussing all the unknown details of what happened in his last moments/days and all sorts of things about his personal life. How on earth is that ok but fleetingly seeing flight details on a flight app are crossing the line? So hypocritical.

I fully agree anyone trying to get near his family, area where they live, funeral etc would be completely wrong.
 
Okayem said:
The people lining the streets thing I have mixed feelings about.

my mum died during Covid times when restrictions were ten people or less. Being from a small town where everybody knew everybody, we let people know what time and date we'd be leaving the funeral home so that people who wished to could pay their respects. And there were maybe 300 people who stood in the streets of said small town. For the most part, it was lovely, incredibly comforting to know so many people thought well of her - she was someone who worked in hospitality for most of her life and therefore knew everyone. however, years down the line, it just feels kind of gross, almost voyeuristic. Like the worst experience of my entire life was just being viewed by half the town.

And so, I understand why people would want to do a procession and show up to pay their respects. Liam meant a lot to so many people. However, unless his family specifically say that would be ok and they welcome a procession, nobody should be going anywhere near his funeral or the route his coffin will take.
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I've lost close family members before and for me personally I don't think I would want people lining the streets. I'll obviously never be in that situation but when people hardly know a person start posting online about their death it makes me feel uneasy. I know liam was famous and lots of people feel like they know him and want to say goodbye. But I think I would be so furious and upset to see strangers publicly crying in the strees as I was on the way to to my son/brother/cousins funeral. It's a different kind of loss for the public and fans than it is for friends and family. I know they'll want to grieve for Liam but I feel like there is a time and place for it.
 
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