Karl Payne & Jodie Payne @Paynespatchministries

They were on drugs and now they are not. But Jodies mam refuses to give the other two back to them.
I don’t think it’s about refusing, they will have likely been removed by social services and a court order put in place for them to live with the grandparents. Jodie and Karl will need to show substantial and sustained change to apply to the court for the order to be discharged. The fact they haven’t shows that they aren’t able to demonstrate that. You also say they aren’t on drugs now, but from what I have seen recently I wouldn’t say that is necessarily true all the time. Doing the job I do, I’m quite surprised they even have Baybe in their care now.
 
He had a header on his live earlier saying 146 days clean I think it was, although I remember him off his trolley not that long back so it’s clearly a lie. Jodie acts so strange on the videos I can’t explain it, she just seems like she just doesn’t want to be there with him. I may be wrong but something is really off.
 
He had a header on his live earlier saying 146 days clean I think it was, although I remember him off his trolley not that long back so it’s clearly a lie. Jodie acts so strange on the videos I can’t explain it, she just seems like she just doesn’t want to be there with him. I may be wrong but something is really off.
agreed, she acts so so odd and she seems so slow! she looks off her head too
 
The way she just speaks but not really to him because she knows he doesn't or won't want to listen. When she was pregnant with baybe he used to shout hallelujah really loudly non stop. I would have committed murder if I was her.
 
Showing off their newborn kebab

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I've had to stop watching cause I feel heart sorry for the baby. She is paraded every day with him and thrown about. She doesn't seem to have any routine and is she going to be punted when the new babies come along.
Jodie is anaemic and looks so like she could do with a good sleep all the time and here is him chucking the camera in her face
He def has an obsession with posting and being live on Tik Tok
 
I feel for the other wee one before the twins are even here.
She doesn't seem to be able to move around herself and they always have her in their arms or stuck in the jumperoo
Did you see last night he was saying how much their house is and uc only pay £800 of it so how long before they can't afford it and are back in the tent with twins and a wee one.
Hope sw intervene before then
 
I feel for the other wee one before the twins are even here.
She doesn't seem to be able to move around herself and they always have her in their arms or stuck in the jumperoo
Did you see last night he was saying how much their house is and uc only pay £800 of it so how long before they can't afford it and are back in the tent with twins and a wee one.
Hope sw intervene before then
Surely he must be made to job search, he’s fit and well enough to sit begging all day on tik tok and go round the streets saying god is good and eating out in restaurants. He surely can get a proper job to support them all.
 
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