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I never thought I'd say this, but Joanne are currently making Zalfie's life look exciting. You'd think the longer Joanne were together the better the vlogs/instagram would be and the more adult they'd become. But the vlogs/insta are getting worse and personalty wise their just turning more and more in to teens by the day.

Could Joe be suddenly acting like an 18 year old teen, as he's never had that serious relationship in his teens/early 20s, so is treating the relationship like you would do as a teen/early 20's instead of an adult relationship. As I'm the same age as Joe and me and my friends haven't acted like that in a relationship since we were like 18/20

In some ways it's not that bad as a least he's getting that phase out of his system and hopefully in the near future, he will realise or one of his mate will be honest and tell him he needs to stop acting like a teen and get a grown up relationship.

Also I've noticed people mention Dianne's had a lot of BF's over the past few years, could that also be down to the fact that she acts like and teen and never seems to grow out of the teen phase?
 
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Bit If he carries on dating Dianne, he'll never have a private life again, it will get to a point where he won't be able to leave his flat and do anything normal without an article being written about him.
Which although I do feel bad for Dianne I feel like she love all the media attention and loves having articles wrote about her day in day out as it's been great for her career.
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I don’t think that’s true. The tabloid media are notoriously fickle and they are simply flavour of the month. While I’m not saying it might not get more intense for a bit, it will die down at some point and they should milk it for what it’s worth now if that’s what they want (I’m pretty sure that’s what Diane wants)
 
Horatio said:
I don’t think that’s true. The tabloid media are notoriously fickle and they are simply flavour of the month. While I’m not saying it might not get more intense for a bit, it will die down at some point and they should milk it for what it’s worth now if that’s what they want (I’m pretty sure that’s what Diane wants)
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It's defiantly what Dianne wants, she lives for the media attention. Once it dies down and they got back to there normal day to day lives and there last weeks news, I can picture Dianne secretly emailing the Sun/DM weekly with Joanne content trying to get an article wrote about them.

I know Joe and Dianne do genuinely seem in love on the vlogs/insta, but I do think Dianne was quick to dump her Ex for Joe when she realised she could become a bigger/more popular z-lister.
I think it started off with her using Joe to get more popular throughout strictly. Then in the last month or so Joe's realise just how much people loved them together so now he's started using her to film most of his vlog content for him, as he knows that brings in the big bucks.

Like Dianne and all the fans thinks he's being all romantic booking the suite at the titanic hotel, organising a spa day, when really all he's done is messaged the hotel and said in exchange for a free room I can get you some great video and printed media coverage.

As although he could afford to pay for it himself, he wouldn't spend that much per night on a hotel, as in vlogs over the years he's always gone on about how he likes to spend as least as possible and why spend $500 on shoes when you can get a great pair of vans for $50.

As although he's been acting like a 16 year old teen lately, he is still very business savvy and know how to use Dianne and play the media perfectly.
 
Mm but I think joe is enjoying being the one with the girlfriend to take selfies with and in the relationship everyone is talking about for once - rather than his sister or best friend . Which is why he’s going against so much of what he’s said in the past. I think he might have been a bit lonely these past few years plus he was starting to get a taste of his YouTube popularity declining - well he’s killed two birds with one stone hasn’t he?
 
I've only seen Dianne on tv and she looked like a really cool person. Just checked out Joe's vlogs and ohmygosh, she's a perfect example of better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt! What a vacuous girl. Perfect for Joe though. Fancy Joe sitting in the dark for 5 hours or so as your room mate took the key! I can't LOL!!
 
HappyHalloween said:
I've only seen Dianne on tv and she looked like a really cool person. Just checked out Joe's vlogs and ohmygosh, she's a perfect example of better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt! What a vacuous girl. Perfect for Joe though. Fancy Joe sitting in the dark for 5 hours or so as your room mate took the key! I can't LOL!!
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I know what you mean she seems great on tv them the complete opposite on Insta and vlogs.
Could Dianne be a bit of a controlling girlfriend, as I don't get why Joe stayed in his room in the dark for 5hrs. Surely Dianne could of Just left him with key or normal or in past vlogs when he's got time to kill he'll go out wandering. (Is he turning into one of those BF's who says Yes to everything there GF says as he's scare of upsetting her and ruining the relationships in anyway.

I know everyone is on there phone nowadays, but I've notice in quite a few vlogs one's when he's at home and even one's on tour, Joe will just pan around with the camera and Dianne's always sat there engrossed in her phone.
So I do wonder do they have anything in common and what there like when the camera stops rolling.

Also I do wondering if you was to take dance out the picture and they meet on different circumstances, would the spark be there, would they have dated when Joe found out she was vacuous girl.

As you can tell in recent vlogs Joe's starting to to realise it's not an act and she is a vacuous girl. (I think she put on a sort of act through strictly to make it seem like she wasn't and that's why Joe fell for her)

As if any of his mates had date anyone like Dianne he would have taken the right piss out of them.
 
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I also found it wired how when they came across the padlocks Dianne starts saying how wired, how signage it would be if there was one here saying Joe and Dianne, and then Joe said it would be wired, don't get any ideas.
It's almost seems like he want's to be a relationship, but without all feels, thoughts and emotions. Even saying the word BF and GF in vlogs seems a struggle for him.

I think Dianne and all the fans just thinks Joe's being funny all time, but really most of the time he's just being condescending. He use to do that with Oli and Mikey and now Dianne's just replaced them.
Like making a Joke out of Dianne's thumbs was funny the first time, but then he goes to the extremes and has to make a segment out of it.

Be interesting see how Joe would act dating someone, who he can't be condescending to 24/7. In some ways I think it's what he needs as it will probably help him to grow up a bit.

I know it's only a movie, but another vacuous moment was when Joe made the gollum comment about her necklace and Dianne had no idea who gollum was. Then another time when Joe said we need to dress incognito and again Dianne had no idea, you could see that really got to Joe when he turned to the camera and said 'God give me strength'.
 
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I don't normal look at social blade, but someone posted on twitter Joe's subs are going down. I can understand it happening on his main channel and gaming channel as he hasn't post on there in months. He still gaining subs on his vlog channel, but at the same time he's also losing just as many, so he sub count never really changes.
So just go to show that having Dianne feature in vlogs and now take over vlogs ins't going to help his channel in the long run.
So it will be interest to see when Dianne goes on tour and it's just Joe vlogging if his stats improve or get worse.

The day they were packing for the tour Dianne made a big deal saying I took the biggest suitcase last year, and you may think this years is big but it's a downsize from last year. Yet all we ever see her wear is that black fleece coat or that weird ugly looking multi coloured fleece jacket.

Also I've notice everyone took the 4-5hr bus trip to Nottingham from Glasgow, yet Dianne Joe and Stacey all flew there. Did Joe and Dianne do that as they know it will be something the media will pick up on and write an article on or do think as they've won ever tour so far they think their something special and too good to be on the tour bus.
 
Does anyone know what's happened on twitter, I've only read a few comments from fans, but supposedly Alfie tweeted about something and use Dianne as a an example and the whole Joanne fandom, has gone mad saying Alife's calling Dianne and doesn't like her etc.

Then I click on a fans curious cat page and someone said this 'Dianne's a lot smarter than she lets on, smarter than joe that’s for sure' I know Joe not the smartest, but he's a lot more switched on that Dianne. The only thing she smarter than Joe at is dancing, but that's due to the fact she's done it most of her life.

Also another vacuous moment is when they drove past Buckingham Palace and Dianne said some friends once told me if you went there, you weren't aloud to look at the palace and she actually believed it. If you Any normal person would of thought it was a bit strange and googled it to find out more before they went. Yet people think she's smart than Joe.
 
Everything has been deleted but from what I can gather a Dianne stan called out alfie for saying something about if you want to look good, you should get (expensive) dental work done? So he responded saying it’s no different to Dianne and her red hair and make up? Idk the general consensus is Alfie supposedly implied Dianne is only attractive when she’s all made up. But this is the Joanne fandom so take it with a pinch of salt. They’re the same people who were gunning for Giovanni’s blood when he gave Dianne a friendly tap on the bum.
 
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Everything has been deleted but from what I can gather a Dianne stan called out alfie for saying something about if you want to look good, you should get (expensive) dental work done? So he responded saying it’s no different to Dianne and her red hair and make up? Idk the general consensus is Alfie supposedly implied Dianne is only attractive when she’s all made up. But this is the Joanne fandom so take it with a pinch of salt. They’re the same people who were gunning for Giovanni’s blood when he gave Dianne a friendly tap on the bum.
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I'm not the biggest fan of Alfie, but it's wrong how so many people have took the comment the wrong and have ganged up on him, and any fans who like Joanne and Zalfie. (It seems from twitter you can only be a Joanne Fan or a Zalfie fan, not both now)

Yet the moment Dianne is seen as doing something wrong to Joe, the same fans who love her now will be their calling her from a pig to a dog.

I think Joe either needs to end the relationship with Dianne after the tour.
Or if he is serious about being with Dianne long term, he needs to sit down with her and make a proper video telling the fans we can speak for ourselves and to calm down etc. (How some of the fans have reacted to stuff over the past month it's like Joe and Dianne are 13 and can't speak for themselves.) If they had a problem with the kissing photo or the bum touching etc they would have spoke about it by now.

If Joe's not careful I can see all his YouTuber friends distancing themselves and not wanting to film/hang out in fear of doing/saying the wrong and the Joanne fans attacking them.
 
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Found this screenshot on twitter. He really should ignore those Joe/Dianne fans. No one rational lives vicariously through a couple.
 
Idkk said:
Oh for god’s sake he’s literally said the opposite of what they’re all accusing him of. ?? bleeping fandoms full of 13-year-olds, man. They’re the bane of stan culture.
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It's bloody hilarious ??. Those kids take everything so seriously. They need to get a real life instead of trawling everything that's put online. It's like being back in the playground again?????.
 
Has anyone watched the latest vlog?

Nothing happen that was worth watching Just Joe and Dianne watching fails and fan edits

The only things that stood out were:

Joe made a comment saying his dance from this clip reminded him of a scene from 'The wolf of wall street'. Dianne's first words never seen it. Then kept asking wolf as in wolf (making a wolf noise) Then Joe just pulls a WTF face to the camera. Then Dianne says we should watch it, what's it about. Then Joe says 'don't worry it's very long and very confusing for you.

Then another clip someone uses the Indiana Jones theme song and yet again Dianne's never watched it. Then Joe tries to explain, why they've used the track for the clip and Dianne just keeps talking over him says is it like the Aladdin movie, essentially Indiana Jones just sounds like a copy of Aladdin, then Joe explains some more and she just ends with like Aladdin trying to the get apple and Joe just response with sort of. (You could tell he was trying to share a moment from one of his fav movies and Dianne didn't really care)

Has she been living under rock or something for the past 30 years. I know Dancing can take up a lot of your time, but surely you'd would have taken the odd few hours out ever now and then to watch current movies/read about current stuff happening in the world.

No wonder she's still acting like a kid if the likes of Aladdin, the little mermaid and Mary Kate and Ashley are the only types of movies you've watched in life.

I really do wondering what they talk about when the camera not rolling, as on camera, there's not been one thing that Joe said, that Dianne has understood, and if Dianne has never heard or seen anything Joe talks about, how can you have anything in common. The only thing they both having going for them is Dianne copy joe's sense of humour so on the surface it makes it look like their the perfect couple.

I know Zalfie aren't great together, but a least they have a common interest of YouTube.
 
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Tbf the Aladdin thing was meant to be annoying. She was interrupting him every time he started to speak to wind him up, which he referenced later on in the video by doing it back to her. It’s a laugh. They’re very deadpan about a lot of their shared humour so I can see how it might go over some heads.

He looked a bloody state in that video though. Put a hat on, mate, if you can’t be arsed to deal with that hair. You’re broadcasting to millions. And this is the first time I’ve seen them together and thought she looks so much older than him. Not in a “she’s looking old” way. More like he looks like a bloody child sitting next to his eccentric aunt or something.
 
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