Jack Monroe #58 Schrödinger’s Jack: simultaneously working and sleeping all hours

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MancBee said:
I don't think virtue signalling means genuine compassion. For me it is people that hear of something they perceive as poverty, homelessnes or such, and giving lip service to it. All the time ensuring people are aware of how empathetic they are. They then do nothing of worth other than say the right words.

If they do anything they centre themselves in the story, whilst not actually doing anything practical. As an example, a high profile actor bringing attention to a disadvantaged person, only to take centre stage for personal gain.

It's hard to explain, but I know that I was guilty of it when I was in a more financially stable position. At parties I would nod along with the "those homeless people, how awful" comments, but immediately forgetting and going on with my life.
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Agreed. Genuine compassion is not the same thing as virtue signalling and you can tell this by looking at how they behave when they think no one is watching. Someone I am no longer friends with for a lot of reasons is THE most tedious virtue signaller, also a massive fan of JM. Anyway, I realised she's actually not a very nice person when I split a bill with her. I added a tip on when I paid my share by card... Instead of paying her half of the bill she simply paid the remainder of the bill meaning I paid for half her food and the waitress team didn't get their tip. Meanwhile she brays on about all her good works and shares all manner of things online that make her look like a decent human. Her latest crusade is shaming transphobia and outing terfs.
 
no-no said:
Had a look at Ooni and can’t see many gifted posts on Instagram unless lots of them are breaking ASA rules? A few accounts are brand ambassadors but they’ve mostly got pizza in their username or post a lot of pizza (I am starving now).

It seems people are getting theirs early going off this comment so I’m leaning towards her buying it, if she gets called out she’ll be all “it was gifted fRoM a FriEnD, BACK OFF”. Her mask is always slipping falling off...

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I'm a member of loads of ooni groups, people that ordered them and got a September delivery date have been posting the last couple of days that they have arrived a month early.

I would be surprised if they gave any away as they don't need to, they are like rocking horse poo as they are constantly sold out and so popular.
 
I also think she looks beautiful in that photo and all the photos with longish hair. She definitely suits longish hair (to be fair, she suits the buzz cut too, amazing bone structure) and I think she regrets shaving it off now, hence all the wig posts.

I am, however, sceptical about the burnout claims. I’ve not been properly burned out but I’ve got into a massive rut over lockdown. I’m washing my hair every 5/6 days because I can’t be bothered, House is clean but messier than I’d like, I’m behind with work and I’ve lost my way with fashion. I chuck on a T-shirt and shorts every day. I haven’t read a book for months, I have a list of things to do and I haven’t done any of it. I am in a constantly state of mild anxiety and I feel like crap. My sleep is all over the place. I wouldn’t say this was burnout but it is tit. I just think anyone facing proper burnout wouldn’t be able to do some of the things Jack is doing. I appreciate everyone is different though.
 
Emmapism said:
I have such a problem with the term virtue signalling. Most folks are just trying to be good people at the end of the day. I've often felt it's weaponising someone's compassion and using it against them as an insult.

Lots of people don't understand poverty and have never lived it.

But if they felt sorry for someone who (genuinely) had, I don't know that I would want to discourage that feeling. Because what other way would we want them to be feeling about it?

Deep discussion for a Thursday morning! Catch up with you later Fraus
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It's not an expression that sits entirely easily with me either, though it has it's uses. For me it relates to the type of person who is always full of compassion for the latest issue but never in a genuine or sustained way. It's often a mask for nastiness. A good recent example would be the people who piled on Barbara after JM was so condescending to her. They were showing their "compassion" for Jack and even after it became apparent that Barbara was in the tit financially they kept piling on. People motivated by genuine compassion for people experiencing poverty would have immediately acknowledged they'd taken Barbara the wrong way and apologise and maybe even asked if there was anything they could do to help. Part of showing compassion is listening and trying to gain a genuine understanding for a persons situation but I see none of that in Jack or her followers. It's just transparent point scoring and well... virtue signalling "SEE HOW I SUFFERED", "SEE HOW I CARE ABOUT JACKS SUFFERING", "LOOK WHAT THE TORIES DID TO JACK", "LOOK AT HOW ANGRY WE ARE, WE CARE".
 
Burned out from what, though? The only thing(s) she seems to be doing at full pelt is posting on Social Media - which is something only JM can control (and she won't). It's not like she's working 18 hours a day whilst looking after a child or multiple children, sustaining friendships, a partner etc.

If she was really as skint as she wants everyone to believe, she could and should ask one of her celeb friends for a job in their kitchen - but she SHAN'T.

She could also pick up a job getting paid to run social media accounts, content creation etc. Legitimate sources of incoming alongside her already heavily monetised media streams wouldn't be that much of a shift.

There are plenty of people who are genuinely burned out from their jobs, their families, their lifestyles, ill-health, worries, etc. I don't see that here. I just see textbook charlatan LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME behaviour.
 
MarmiteExtract said:
To be fair, I'd never heard of Ooni before last night — so if this was an advertising freebie, it's done the intended job of garnering attention for the brand (not that I'd be its target audience!)
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I hadn't heard of it either - I don't like pizza! I looked online and it's been going a while and there is a buzz about it. If they were going to "gift" an oven to someone I feel there are so many other people that are a better fit for their brand than the Tin Can C(r)ook.
 
acca00 said:
Maybe Jack got over-excited after Hellmann's and pre-ordered the Ooni. The company seems successful and quite trendy - so why would they associate with a mess like Jack?
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I have to agree. Not a great brand match. Poverty chic doesn't sit well with hipster cool shiny pizza ovens. I think most companies would be very careful about associating with JM these days because there's so much info out there about her that's very negative - and I don't just mean in here, lol.
 
Froggies said:
I also think she looks beautiful in that photo and all the photos with longish hair. She definitely suits longish hair (to be fair, she suits the buzz cut too, amazing bone structure) and I think she regrets shaving it off now, hence all the wig posts.

I am, however, sceptical about the burnout claims. I’ve not been properly burned out but I’ve got into a massive rut over lockdown. I’m washing my hair every 5/6 days because I can’t be bothered, House is clean but messier than I’d like, I’m behind with work and I’ve lost my way with fashion. I chuck on a T-shirt and shorts every day. I haven’t read a book for months, I have a list of things to do and I haven’t done any of it. I am in a constantly state of mild anxiety and I feel like crap. My sleep is all over the place. I wouldn’t say this was burnout but it is tit. I just think anyone facing proper burnout wouldn’t be able to do some of the things Jack is doing. I appreciate everyone is different though.
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You’ve just described my experience of the last few months - thanks! Weirdly good to know I’m not alone.

She’s not burned out, she’s an attention seeking grifter. I imagine people working in the NHS, transport and retail are more likely to be burned out, as they’ve been doing something other than thirst shots on Insta and begging for money to find their profligate lifestyle.
 
Nothing much to add on the selfie she looks prettier than she has for ages but I agree if she's that bad mental health wise she's burnt out etc how on earth did she find the energy to get all done up? Whenever I've been bad I can't imagine putting on a bra nevermind sexying myself up I know everyone copes differently so I hope I don't sound dismissive but its just bizarre to me.

Also think I've got the same bra, pretty sure its an Ann Summers special lol.

I want a gifted pizza oven 😡
 
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