Jack Monroe #161 Jack Monroe is away, yo

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Poor things not having their emotional abuse tactics taken seriously.

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I loathe the weaponisation of mental health. I've seen friends and family members trying to deal with abusive if you leave me I'll kill myself. It is sick.

It also perpetuates a narrative - that was showcased by that grossly irresponsible book/series 13 Reasons Why - that suicide is someone else's fault. People like to look for logic, I get that, but suicide is not a simple case of cause and effect, as it is so often portrayed in the media.

By the way, I say this as someone who lost a family member to suicide. It was years ago now, and I don't say this to ask for sympathy. After a suicide, our natural reaction is to blame ourselves and say "if only I'd done X." My entire family did that for a very long time, and it is deeply unhealthy and just plain wrong. Suicide is complex and almost impossible to understand, and should never be used as a weapon or a threat.
Yeah, when she posted those Mind screenshots yesterday she clearly had no thought for the people who have lost loved ones to suicide who can and do blame themselves. Especially that last screenshot. I'm not going to comment on the practicalities of things like calling the Samaritans or taking someone to A and E but even the first one - "stay with them" - can be tremendously triggering for people who have actually been in that situation and haven't been able to stop someone when they're determined enough.

Poor things not having their emotional abuse tactics taken seriously.

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Kind of off topic but what does everyone make of Susanna’s reaction to Piers leaving?

"He's a big character, lots of people have got in touch to say this was always on the cards, people are glad he's gone, many viewers will be gutted this morning, because he is... we had our highest ratings on Monday, there's a reason for that.”

The ratings bit makes me cringe to be honest. I understand ratings are important but it just shows ITV’s priorities in regards to these huge issues. Piers would have undoubtably got away with this if it hadn’t had so much media attention.
 
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On a much lighter note, does it amuse anyone else when she says "I miss you" to Twitter? She doesn't really engage much with people on there unless she wants a fight, 90% of her prolific Twitter activity is her shouting into a void about 1980s sweeties, demanding doggos and ignoring well-meaning squiggles. Hobbies, eh?!
 
The other thing is that in terms of bullying, with Tattle comments SHE HAS TO COME LOOKING FOR IT. We don't take it to her. We don't put our thoughts in the media. It is a tiny corner of the Internet that a lot of people don't know exist. To see the comments, she has to seek them out. Others have raised questions or issues on public posts but on the whole from what I've seen in svreenshots here, they are raising genuine points. People disagreeing with you is not bullying. People asking questions about what YOU CHOOSE to put online when things don't add up is not bullying.

There have been things in the past when we've seen horrible comments and nobody here condones that. Genuine trolls and bullies can get to duck - Jack, we're on your side there.

My feeling is that she is either exaggerating the effect these mendacious, bullying ninnies are having on her (very likely), exaggerating how many actual instances of bullying she gets online or counting genuine questions as bullying (also very likely) or there are many many engagements that we aren't seeing that are awful (less likely, purely speculation m'lud).

Not everybody has to like you Jack. That's OK.
 

Me and Mr Slop have some of the same people on facebook, friends of the family who added us.

My mam is a lovely person and although technically a boomer, she does not engage in boomer behaviour. A couple of these friends do however display peak boomerism. One in particular will post a picture of something racist or misogynistic with the comment "Yep".

I've muted this perseon but my partner will still shout across the room, "There's been another Yep, come and see!". We've reported and got them muted multiple times and they can't work out who's doing it. 😂

Overall take: Jack is such a weird amalgamation of teenager and boomer mentally.
 
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Retweeting this today. Why is she so mortifyingly cringey when she has a "cause"?
Because she never has a decent argument, she just shouts. I've seen so many well articulated, non racist, comments about 'that' interview, only for people to immediately ignore every single point being made and just scream 'racist' at the commenter. It's such a cop out way to try and score points. Who can yell the loudest without using their brains? Boring!

Me and Mr Slop have some of the same people on facebook, friends of the family who added us.

My mam is a lovely person and although technically a boomer, she does not engage in boomer behaviour. A couple of these friends do however display peak boomerism. One in particular will post a picture of something racist or misogynistic with the comment "Yep".

I've muted this perseon but my partner will still shout across the room, "There's been another Yep, come and see!". We've reported and got them muted multiple times and they can't work out who's doing it. 😂

Overall take: Jack is such a weird amalgamation of teenager and boomer mentally.
She really is. Her parents are only mid/late 50s too, so not that old really.
 
Here's a gift for you, Jack! This Galician recipe for tortilla de bogóns (little fish) looks right up your alley...and the olive oil you cook it in is vegan!

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Who says we're bullies? Please take this fishy egg recipe as a peace offering.

PS not sure how to say this fish in English. I swear I'm not Hilaria Baldwin, it's just that we eat a huge variety of seafood here in Iberia and there are lots that I've never come across in English. I know what a cucumber is though. Anyway, fish is fish is fish.
 
Just posting new thread now cos I’m BUSY

 
Because she never has a decent argument, she just shouts. I've seen so many well articulated, non racist, comments about 'that' interview, only for people to immediately ignore every single point being made and just scream 'racist' at the commenter. It's such a cop out way to try and score points. Who can yell the loudest without using their brains? Boring!


She really is. Her parents are only mid/late 50s too, so not that old really.
True, however people in the services can often come across in that "Boomer" Queen and Country way, whatever their age, so it could be that!
 
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