Israeli - Palestinian Conflict #20

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Veronicaaa said:
Watching the news yesterday, everyone was describing in detail this new missile that Biden has OK'd to deploy in Russia, pure salivating over it, it was like an all-day advert for Lockheed Martin. You really do have to wonder who is profiting from this, and by how much.
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I am stunned at Bidens last moves before leaving office, instigating WW3 seems to be no.1 on his list.

Hezbollah rocket attack on Tel Aviv
 
You can really see the apartheid system on display when Israeli citizens get hurt - and it unfortunately appears that there's increasing numbers getting caught either by rocket fire or by shrapnel from rockets downed by the defence systems. Israeli citizens are afforded the care that should be expected - first responders are not killed for seeking to aid them, they are quickly taken to hospitals that have sufficient equipment and staff, and there is no risk of their medical providers being abducted or murdered.

The world records the civilians harmed as equally so, yet ignores that we treat one side's civilians with the humanity they deserve, while treating the other side's civilians as statistics or "human shields," unworthy of protection so long as there's a vague claim that someone identified as a terrorist is somewhere within an undisclosed distance of them.
 
Lammington said:
You can really see the apartheid system on display when Israeli citizens get hurt - and it unfortunately appears that there's increasing numbers getting caught either by rocket fire or by shrapnel from rockets downed by the defence systems. Israeli citizens are afforded the care that should be expected - first responders are not killed for seeking to aid them, they are quickly taken to hospitals that have sufficient equipment and staff, and there is no risk of their medical providers being abducted or murdered.

The world records the civilians harmed as equally so, yet ignores that we treat one side's civilians with the humanity they deserve, while treating the other side's civilians as statistics or "human shields," unworthy of protection so long as there's a vague claim that someone identified as a terrorist is somewhere within an undisclosed distance of them.
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And the fact that they don’t build shelters in the Arab areas of Israel especially near the border where most attacks take place.
I wonder how much land Israel will steal after the ceasefire?
 
Veronicaaa said:
This is what our ruling class has decided will be normal

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The truth is our leaders are no better.
We have a friend she is the loveliest lady her family are all doctors her husband is a neurosurgeon they moved to the uk from Iraq 🇮🇶
The stories are unbelievable they were told where and when to move and they also used to stay in one place to either survive or die together, they moved one night after a call to move to a safe area the house where the entire family were sleeping was hit they were all in the basement our friend lost ten members of her family including her eighteen month old son her newborn survived because the hood of his pram managed to hold a lot of the debris that would have fallen on him. We heard stories you wouldn’t believe and stories of how hard it was before the war with schools not even having pencils or paper because of the sanctions she said the western countries knew that weapons were depleted and that they hadn’t recovered from the previous war and how they attacked because they couldn’t provide evidence that the country didn’t have.
What do you say to a dear friend it’s heinous.
What consequences were dished out after that war ?
Who was held accountable for all the lies ?
Where are Iraq’s lost billions? Who had the rebuilding contracts ? The questions could go on and on there are so many questions but zero answers.
Fast forward to Israel and this Genocide and my questions are why would we expect any humanity or honesty from the west when they have done similar war crimes ? Why would western leaders blink at a torture camp after the atrocities at Abū ghuraib ?
Why would we expect our leaders to uphold international law when they have broken it ?
I feel that we have been fooling ourselves I read a quote one time it said when someone shows who they are believe them well our leaders showed themselves and we should have believed them.
 
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Is the £5m in the room with the beheaded babies and the underground command and control centre at the hospital Bibi?


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Killed at least 43k people mostly women and children, killed many of their own hostages and now he’s shitting bricks and offering £5m reward when he could have negotiated and got them out for free, but if there’s 100 left alive say that’s only £500m which they’ll get back on a penthouse apartment in Gaza when they ethnic cleanse and develop new ethnostate holiday homes 🤬
 
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Dogmuck said:
Is the £5m in the room with the beheaded babies and the underground command and control centre at the hospital Bibi?


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Killed at least 43k people mostly women and children, killed many of their own hostages and now he’s shitting bricks and offering £5m reward when he could have negotiated and got them out for free, but if there’s 100 left alive say that’s only £500m which they’ll get back on a penthouse apartment in Gaza when they ethnic cleanse and develop new ethnostate holiday homes 🤬
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He’s having a laugh he’s a compulsive liar
 
Dogmuck said:
Is the £5m in the room with the beheaded babies and the underground command and control centre at the hospital Bibi?


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Killed at least 43k people mostly women and children, killed many of their own hostages and now he’s shitting bricks and offering £5m reward when he could have negotiated and got them out for free, but if there’s 100 left alive say that’s only £500m which they’ll get back on a penthouse apartment in Gaza when they ethnic cleanse and develop new ethnostate holiday homes 🤬
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Israel were the ones that ceased the hostage exchange then recaptured some of the Palestinians to torture them again.

This is just a smoke screen.

Netanyahu stopped fuel to freeze all the people in Gaza, blew up hospitals to stop all the people in Gaza getting medical treatment and stopped aid/food/water getting to all people in Gaza. This all includes the Israeli hostages too.

How can the relatives of the hostages still think they are alive. Is footage of Netanyahu's attacks being broadcast to Israelis.
Israeli citizens stopping trucks entering Gaza even thinking about the hostages.


Did the army take 6 hours to get to the border village and music festival because they were loading the flame throwers and automatic weapons.

It has been confirmed that the IOF killed some of their own citizens hasn't it.
 
bitterntwisted said:
Are you kidding me? Whilst the MSM report on looting of aid trucks, not mentioning that the IDF have been picking off Gaza's civil defence, Haaretz report that Israel is looking to allow criminal gangs in Gaza to distribute aid. Some of these gangs with ties to Islamic State.

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I’d read about this criminal gang that stole the aid trucks, under the watchful eye of the IDF - the western media made suggestions it was Hamas (obvs). Actually Hamas killed 11 members of the gang a couple of days later, the 12th member was a known criminal whose brother was also an Israeli collaborator. He’d been jailed in Gaza but had been sprung by a supposed ISIS backed gang and smuggled out to Egypt. It’s said he and this gang came back in to Gaza with the IDF with the intention of causing food shortages and high prices to ensure the Gazans suffered some more and so the Israelis could say “look we are delivering aid but khaaamaass are stealing it all from their own people”. I didn’t post it here because I wasn’t certain it was real because, as always, it wasn’t mentioned by any western media outlets. Glad that this has been reported, even if it is Owen Jones.
 
Dogmuck said:
Glad that this has been reported, even if it is Owen Jones.
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Yeah, I know all about Owen Jones, but I will give him his due for banging the drum for Gaza.

IdeletedbutI'mbackagain said:
Wtf, how is THIS allowed to happen unchallenged but anti genocide pro Palestinian protesters get arrested??
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It's Ohio and FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABY! Neo-Nazis are covered because the first amendment applies to provocative speech. :rolleyes:
 
Did anyone see the Dutch mayor -,don’t know her name, saying that she was sorry that she called what happened in Amsterdam a program against Israeli football fans.
Turns out she was pressurised by the Israelis to say this and now regrets it.
Why did she do it in the first place?

Those Israeli ‘fans’ got the tit kicked out of them, for their vile behaviour.
That’s what happens when you behave like racist thugs!
 
Miss polar said:
Did anyone see the Dutch mayor -,don’t know her name, saying that she was sorry that she called what happened in Amsterdam a program against Israeli football fans.
Turns out she was pressurised by the Israelis to say this and now regrets it.
Why did she do it in the first place?

Those Israeli ‘fans’ got the tit kicked out of them, for their vile behaviour.
That’s what happens when you behave like racist thugs!
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Agreed Netanyahu sprinted to the podium before the facts were established and jumped straight on the antisemitic bandwagon surely it’s close to worn out by now because it’s been overloaded for over a year.
The mayor clearly felt pressurised by the powers that be but she should have stated that an investigation was underway to determine what happened before throwing her own citizens under the bus.
 
Just watching AJ and that draft resolution was worked on by all the SC members. It asked for on unconditional ceasefire by both sides and the release of ALL detainees. The draft originally had Chapter 7 wording which would have given a legal framework (had it been passed) to allow for force and sanctions. US said they would never support that so that was taken out to appease the US and therefore everyone thought that the diluted version would pass even if the yanks abstained. Clearly they were just waisting everyone’s time and have no intention of ever voting in favour of a resolution that they have worked “tirelessly” on for 3 weeks. Yanks have basically just done a hijack. Fkng outrageous!
 
Dogmuck said:
Just watching AJ and that draft resolution was worked on by all the SC members. It asked for on unconditional ceasefire by both sides and the release of ALL detainees. The draft originally had Chapter 7 wording which would have given a legal framework (had it been passed) to allow for force and sanctions. US said they would never support that so that was taken out to appease the US and therefore everyone thought that the diluted version would pass even if the yanks abstained. Clearly they were just waisting everyone’s time and have no intention of ever voting in favour of a resolution that they have worked “tirelessly” on for 3 weeks. Yanks have basically just done a hijack. Fkng outrageous!
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Their empire is crumbling and they know it so they don’t give a tit at this point it’s like they’re pushing Russia into action they’ve been closing in on them for years the worry is who are they going to take down with them ?
 
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