Ioan Gruffudd and Alice Evans #4 He’s just not that into you

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Yeah I doubt people are admitting to anything. It's the voices in her head.
Where are her friends in all this?? Can someone not lock her phone in the safe and take her out for a karaoke night? She never seems to go anywhere or do anything but stew over this. Someone needs to go round and help in some way. It’s really sad.

If you go out with a man or woman, they have the right to know whether you are gay, bi sexual or unsure. It’s only fair to be straight(excuse the pun) with them before getting involved sexually. Maybe he was and told her he was not sure. Who knows, but, you are lying or cheating them by not being upfront about it. You are not cheating on them by being unfaithful but, they do have a right to know
I don’t think this is my right at all quite honestly. There we definitely differ. It can certainly be a dealbreaker though, depending.
 
Where are her friends in all this?? Can someone not lock her phone in the safe and take her out for a karaoke night? She never seems to go anywhere or do anything but stew over this. Someone needs to go round and help in some way. It’s really sad.


I don’t think this is my right at all quite honestly. There we definitely differ. It can certainly be a dealbreaker though, depending.
Fair enough everyone has their opinion. But, I think I would prefer to know someones sexuality before sleeping with them. It comes down to honesty as, I would be honest with them. Obviously it depends how well you expect to know someone before you sleep with them.
Obviously, you are right. They are not cheating on you if, you don’t know. But, I just feel it’s fair to tell someone if you are gay and they are not. it could affect someone decision to sleep with you or not. But, we digress. Oliver and Evans are now on good terms so it’s not relevant.
 
I may not share your opinion but, that does not mean I’m a flying monkey just because I don’t agree with you. I think people should present two opinions on this forum because two sides do exist. The main thing she has achieved is to get her and IGs name out there. In Hollywood, no publicity is bad publicity.
You don’t have to agree with me. It’s just some of the comments you have made that have me suspicious, such as men not having an emotional attachment to a home, and arguing so vehemently about Alice cheating on OP. Then the comments about BW. They seem very bitter. If you’re not then I’ll apologize I promise. But right now I’m not sure.
 
I agree though, she did cheat on Olivier. But, they were not married (engaged) and no kids were involved. Plus, she cheated on him. But, he was also cheating by lying about his sexuality for the time they were together. Until the end that is.
Did he even know that he was gay at the time? There's an awful lot of gay men who have had relationships with women before feeling confident enough in their sexuality to embark on a gay relationship or even fully understanding their sexuality. Graham Norton said in an autobiography that a female lover first told him that he was gay; Paul O'Grady has a daughter and grandson. There are plenty of similar stories, even without taking into account bisexuality, pansexuality, and other sexualities. Has he said that he knew he was gay and still got engaged? It would appear that he was very hurt at the time.
 
If you go out with a man or woman, they have the right to know whether you are gay, bi sexual or unsure. It’s only fair to be straight(excuse the pun) with them before getting involved sexually. Maybe he was and told her he was not sure. Who knows, but, you are lying or cheating them by not being upfront about it. You are not cheating on them by being unfaithful but, they do have a right to know
I think this is unfair to say. Considering this was 20+ years ago, things have changed significantly in recent years for acceptance but sexuality still was a difficult topic around this time. You don’t know the relationship OP had with friends and family nor himself to feel comfortable discussing his sexuality. Also, because he was in a Hetero presenting relationship doesn’t mean he is to be classed as a straight man.
 
FFS. She needs to stop. How is this behaviour considered empowering? If the threat of destitution is indeed real, she needs to get into survival mode. Put the anger aside and make sure she has a bloody roof over her head. It has been months months months - what does she think this will achieve? It won’t stop the inevitable. He doesn’t want to be with her anymore. I doubt the man is stupid enough to debut a new relationship during a bitter divorce (he’s filed) unless he has his ducks all lined up. He probably hopes the new girlfriend will finally make her understand that he’s not coming back. Millions of women have been in similar situations- this is not unique. duck him and take care of yourself and your daughters.
 
HOW DID SHE FIND OUT ABOUT THIS? What on earth is she telling her children???
 

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You don’t have to agree with me. It’s just some of the comments you have made that have me suspicious, such as men not having an emotional attachment to a home, and arguing so vehemently about Alice cheating on OP. Then the comments about BW. They seem very bitter. If you’re not then I’ll apologize I promise. But right now I’m not sure.
I’m not a flying monkey but, I do see the woman’s side, however, do I think she would be hard work and difficult to leave and well.. she’s just difficult......yes.. also, she has done things on SM that were so disrespectful to him. She called him a pussy FGS. When I saw that, I remember thinking....your marriage days are limited. It’s an awful thing to say about your husband. I’m not blind to her faults but, I don’t need to voice them since, so many people on here are team Ioan!
I think I just feel sorry for her ...even though I should not.
 
I’m not a flying monkey but, I do see the woman’s side, however, do I think she would be hard work and difficult to leave and well.. she’s just difficult......yes.. also, she has done things on SM that were so disrespectful to him. She called him a pussy FGS. When I saw that, I remember thinking....your marriage days are limited. It’s an awful thing to say about your husband. I’m not blind to her faults but, I don’t need to voice them since, so many people on here are team Ioan!
I think I just feel sorry for her ...even though I should not.
Same. She seems very alone. At least I feel sorry for her today. Tomorrow I’ll see her calling someone a twit on Twitter and change my mind 😆
 
Did he even know that he was gay at the time? There's an awful lot of gay men who have had relationships with women before feeling confident enough in their sexuality to embark on a gay relationship or even fully understanding their sexuality. Graham Norton said in an autobiography that a female lover first told him that he was gay; Paul O'Grady has a daughter and grandson. There are plenty of similar stories, even without taking into account bisexuality, pansexuality, and other sexualities. Has he said that he knew he was gay and still got engaged? It would appear that he was very hurt at the time.
I did not know he was very hurt at the time as, I did not really follow them. He does appear to adore he in photos though! He does appear to be a pretty decent, solid guy! reckon He’s glad she finished with him how though. !! Dodged a bullet!
 
Did he even know that he was gay at the time? There's an awful lot of gay men who have had relationships with women before feeling confident enough in their sexuality to embark on a gay relationship or even fully understanding their sexuality. Graham Norton said in an autobiography that a female lover first told him that he was gay; Paul O'Grady has a daughter and grandson. There are plenty of similar stories, even without taking into account bisexuality, pansexuality, and other sexualities. Has he said that he knew he was gay and still got engaged? It would appear that he was very hurt at the time.
He didn’t know until much later and he was crazy about Alice.
 
Where are her friends in all this?? Can someone not lock her phone in the safe and take her out for a karaoke night? She never seems to go anywhere or do anything but stew over this. Someone needs to go round and help in some way. It’s really sad.


I don’t think this is my right at all quite honestly. There we definitely differ. It can certainly be a dealbreaker though, depending.
You can’t tell someone what you don’t know yourself

You have the right to privacy re your sexuality and history. Just because you have sex with someone or marry them doesn’t mean they automatically have any rights to this info. Marriage is a choice to share a life together legally not shared ownership of another human. All my partner needs to know is whether I am putting their health at risk, he has no right to know who my partners were or what sex they were. For those who say this applies to OP has an undertone of homophobia relating to HIV etc
 
I’m not a flying monkey but, I do see the woman’s side, however, do I think she would be hard work and difficult to leave and well.. she’s just difficult......yes.. also, she has done things on SM that were so disrespectful to him. She called him a pussy FGS. When I saw that, I remember thinking....your marriage days are limited. It’s an awful thing to say about your husband. I’m not blind to her faults but, I don’t need to voice them since, so many people on here are team Ioan!
I think I just feel sorry for her ...even though I should not.
We’re not necessarily team Ioan. It’s just she’s the one running this shitshow.
 
Same. She seems very alone. At least I feel sorry for her today. Tomorrow I’ll see her calling someone a twit on Twitter and change my mind 😆
Yeah.........You have reminded me,,..since, I did hear she had made awful comments about Megan Markle. She has not always been so considerate to other celebrities on SM in the past
 
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