Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #174 Even her divorce lawyer left her.

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Ally Pally said:
I do believe we have receipts for Alice claiming that Ioan had spent a million dollars on high class escorts.
She tweeted about Ioan having to leave cocaine behind in Australia
If that's not slinging mud I don't know what is 😂
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I’ve heard from a friend of mine who lives in Oz and is an addict struggling with recovery that coke is incredibly expensive out there. It needs to be brought in over long distances and a gram of high purity sniff can cost $1000AUSD. Just how much was IG supposed to have bought, let alone consumed? If you imagine… (God, doing the maths on how much illegal drugs cost here) 2-3g/night (a LOT - my narc ex couldn’t get through more than 3g/night, although he certainly tried and his arseholism increased exponentially with every line) @ $1000 a time, 4-5 days a week (if he were addicted, that is) he’d be spending ca. $40,000 a month on cocaine alone. Where did all the money come for this - let alone the hookers - Malice? Given he was paying for her fat arse to laze around while the nanny cleaned up and listened to Mees Evans’ endless drunken tales of woe while the poor Golden Child was off at her $50,000/yr school and Malice spent a fortune on online tat, plus the mortgage, insurance, taxes, house maintenance, food, utilities, cars, phones/internet, agents/PR and so on - where the utter hell did he get all that money from? I fail to see how he could afford to pay for Alice, let alone the girls - and a 40k cocaine habit would have been just too… expensive.
 
IHateHadargoyle said:
My question here is why such a strange food combo? Unless the mustard was meant to stain something. Was milk thrown on his bed because like before she wanted soda and was told no, you’re having milk? The oatmeal being thrown makes no sense except it would make a mess. Something’s rotten in Weho.
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Mustard, raw oatmeal and milk make a sticky mess and stains everything. Jokes on her Bianca has moola, she will just replace the stained stuff. Just saying
 
I guess the reason I feel bad for Ella and say "poor children" about both her and Elsie is because their mother owed it to Ella to get her into therapy years ago. Instead she's conditioned to her be terrified of and filled with rage over Bianca to this extreme extent. Her entire life will be shaped by this irresponsible, self-centered parenting, and it's just heartbreaking to me to think Ella could have had access to a safe space where an unbiased therapist could have helped her deal with all of this chaos.
 
BessieNessie said:
Wow do I have news for you.. cheers 🥂
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I’m not sure lol. It’s not a hard and fast rule, just Most people I chat to about ozempic feel sick a lot or are sick and we struggle to drink much alcohol. I can have 1 or 2 but it delays gastric emptying so if it’s fizzy drink it just plays horrendously on me all night and I just feel full so fast. I wouldn’t get pissed on it easily without paying an unwanted price for it later on
 
I've just read Ella's allegations. I haven't read the thread yet, though.

I just wanted to post some thoughts after reading Ella's allegations.

1. If true, Ioan never should have sprung meeting Bianca on her. I'm pretty sure Ella has left out major points on that, with the help of Mommy Dearest, though. So definitely more will come out on that.

2. While I believe Ella has completely fabricated and also embellished some of the events that unfolded, it is clear that Bianca was interacting with her at some point when she was trying to leave. Bianca should have not been involved in this in any way, shape, or form. This is completely up to Ioan to parent his daughter. Bianca had never met Ella. She definitely made a huge mistake in not standing back and completely letting Ioan handle it. She is not related to Ella nor does she have a relationship with Ella. To Ella she is the cause of the divorce (wrongly, of course), but even more reason to have let Ioan handle it all as this visit went south.

3. I don't believe Bianca or Ioan called Ella a narcissist. I can't remember the other words Ella said they called her. Don't believe it. I'm sure Ioan might have said a couple of things as Ella flew out of control, but I don't believe Bianca called her anything. If she did, that's out of line, but I don't believe she did. Dr. Phil is clear about stepdaughters and issues in the new home. The stepmother (in this case father's girlfriend) needs to not engage, not their place, and let dad handle it. I remember Dr. Phil's show on this where if there is conflict and he is very specific about where there are issues and who handles it: Dad. That is even more relevant here because Ella and Bianca have zero relationship.

4. Ioan is so estranged from his children that he was having a companion to monitor his visits. I don't know if he still is. So with that kind of fear, whatever interaction Bianca had with Ella as she threw her fit and tried to leave, inserting herself into it was a massive mistake on Bianca's part. Because Ella and Mummy Dearest will take that and run and create a narrative that is unfair and untrue. The degree they did it is even worse than I could have expected.

Ioan is the victim of parental alienation and Ioan and Bianca are the victims of abuse from Alice. But that doesn't make everything he or Bianca do right all the time. Also, I am hesitant to ever criticize children and young teens, especially in this case with the PA by Alice. I have always had great empathy for not just Elsie, but Ella also. But I have to say this: Ella's behavior at almost 14 was unacceptable, childish, and out of control. She should be ashamed of her behavior. She has so much anger in her. I do hope she is continuing in therapy.

Still, Bianca had no place to get involved in a tantrum with Ella at the apartment once it escalated, even if it was as simple as trying to block or stop her from leaving. NOT HER PLACE. I preface that always with "if true." But even if lies are in this story (definitely) and embellishments (definitely), it is still, as I said above, clear Bianca did involve herself in this situation during the escalation. They played right into Alice's hands, didn't they?

Also, I don't even know why Ioan and Bianca did that photo-op smiling away. I thought those optics were not right for the situation if it went further, and I guess it has with this filing. You don't have to set up a photo-op crying or all gloomy, but the allegations were upsetting and embarrassing. No need for a smiling photo-op. That's just my opinion.

At the end of the day, no matter what, Ioan's relationship with Ella has hit the bottom of the barrel. I guess Alice and Ella got what they wanted. No matter how this plays out, it is clear Ella and Bianca don't have a chance of having a relationship, or even Bianca just being tolerated, and Ella is close to an age where she won't even be forced to see Ioan anyway.

All of this is very unsavory and sickens me. I hope little Elsie still shows love to her dad. And Ella and Alice are in heaven with these events. Alice I get. It's a wet dream for her: daughter filing for a RO against the bogan and Alice possibly getting full custody of at least Ella. But Ella should be sad doing this to her dad. I get she doesn't care about Bianca. But to do this to this extreme, which hurts her own dad? Sad.

And, Ioan, if you read this: I read an article by an expert that said when PA was going on that you can't parent like you normally would. But you probably already know that.

Now I'll go back and read this whole thread.
 
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SynthGirl said:
I've just read Ella's allegations. I haven't read the thread yet, though.

I just wanted to post some thoughts after reading Ella's allegations.

1. If true, Ioan never should have sprung meeting Bianca on her. I'm pretty sure Ella has left out major points on that, with the help of Mommy Dearest, though. So definitely more will come out on that.

2. While I believe Ella has completely fabricated and also embellished some of the events that unfolded, it is clear that Bianca was interacting with her at some point when she was trying to leave. Bianca should have not been involved in this in any way, shape, or form. This is completely up to Ioan to parent his daughter. Bianca had never met Ella. She definitely made a huge mistake in not standing back and completely letting Ioan handle it. She is not related to Ella nor does she have a relationship with Ella. To Ella she is the cause of the divorce (wrongly, of course), but even more so reason to have let Ioan handle it all as this visit went south.

3. I don't believe Bianca or Ioan called Ella a narcissist. I can't remember the other words Ella said they called her. Don't believe it. I'm sure Ioan might have said a couple of things as Ella flew out of control, but I don't believe Bianca called her anything. If she did, that's out of line, but I don't believe she did. Dr. Phil is clear about stepdaughters and issues in the new home. The stepmother (in this case father's girlfriend) needs to not engage, not their place, and let dad handle it. I remember Dr. Phil's show on this where if there is conflict and he is very specific about where there are issues and who handles it: Dad. That is even more relevant here because Ella and Bianca have zero relationship.

4. Ioan is so estranged from his children that he was having a companion to monitor his visits. I don't know if he still is. So with that kind of fear, whatever interaction Bianca had with Ella as she threw her fit and tried to leave, inserting herself into it was a massive mistake on Bianca's part. Because Ella and Mummy Dearest will take that and run and create a narrative that is unfair and untrue. The degree they did it is even worse than I could have expected.

Ioan is the victim of parental alienation and Ioan and Bianca are the victims of abuse from Alice. But that doesn't make everything he or Bianca do right all the time. Also, I am loathed to ever criticize children and young teens, especially in this case with the PA by Alice. I have always had great empathy for not just Elsie, but Ella also. But I have to say this: Ella's behavior at almost 14 was unacceptable, childish, and out of control. She should be ashamed of her behavior. She has so much anger in her. I do hope she is continuing in therapy.

Still, Bianca had no place to get involved in a tantrum with Ella at the apartment once it escalated, even if it was as simple as trying to block or stop her from leaving. NOT HER PLACE. I preface that always with "if true." But even if lies are in this story (definitely) and embellishments (definitely), it is still, as I said above, clear Bianca did involve herself in this situation during the escalation. They played right into Alice's hands, didn't they?

Also, I don't even know why Ioan and Bianca did that photo-op smiling away. I thought those optics were not right for the situation if it went further, and I guess it has with this filing. You don't have to set up a photo-op crying or all gloomy, but the allegations were upsetting and embarrassing. No need for a smiling photo-op. That's just my opinion.

At the end of the day, no matter what, Ioan's relationship with Ella has hit the bottom of the barrel. I guess Alice and Ella got what they wanted. No matter how this plays out, it is clear Ella and Bianca don't have a chance of having a relationship, or even Bianca just being tolerated, and Ella is close to an age where she won't even be forced to see Ioan anyway.

All of this is very unsavory and sickens me. I hope little Elsie still shows love to her dad. And Ella and Alice are in heaven with these events. Alice, I get. It's a wet dream for her: daughter filing for a RO against the bogan and Alice possibly getting full custody of at least Ella. But Ella should be sad doing this to her dad. I get she doesn't care about Bianca. But to her own dad? Sad.

And, Ioan, if you read this: I read an article by an expert that said when PA was going on that you can't parent like you normally would. But you probably already know that.

Now I'll go back and read this whole thread.
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This may be the most idiotic post I have seen on Tattle.
 
Reading the police report just reminds me how much strength Ioan has. I can’t imagine trying to continuously fight for a relationship with a person (albeit a child) who was so vocal about not wanting to be with me. I’m hoping that even though this was an awful thing to happen that there will be a silver lining of CPS now being properly involved and something finally being done.

on a lighter note, I’ve just loaded up my Netflix to find something to watch for the night and was greeted by Ioan on the main screen.
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plinky2 said:
I don’t know how! It’s literally the worst for nausea and feeling totally full
I also don’t get why you would spend £££ on ozempic or be diabetic to then drink your calories either 🤣
I love wine but it’s not loving me anymore. RIP
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She hasn’t mentioned feeling sick at all, just ‘full’. She doesn’t pay and isn’t diabetic, she lives in a country where it’s prescribed ‘just’ for being obese. She’s lost 20kg despite the booze 😂.
Apologies though, that was all off topic.
 
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