Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #155 No one is responsible for Alice's behaviour except Alice.

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Ice Cream Enthusiast said:
RTP, when I read your post about your word for the new year (on the last thread) it made me think of this:

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I do believe that our mindset has a lot to do with our outcome. I also believe that each person is responsible for their own happiness. I am not saying it's always easy, but some people choose to stay stuck in a negative thought process. To keep this relevant, imagine what Alice could accomplish if she changed her mindset! When she reads here (and we know she does) she could learn a lot from the strong and wonderful people on here if she opened her mind up to change. To be fair, though, maybe it's hard to get past the fact that we keep calling her a bleep. 🤭
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The mind & your mindset is capable of so much I agree. You know what - sometimes I find it extremely hard to not be pessimistic, but after reading your posts (and others on here) something clicked in my head. Don't get me wrong I have sometimes thought I had no control, when I was experiencing awful panic attacks - the worst panic attacks I've had - they include my fingernails being embedded in my palms for 3 hours & my feet & legs being completely numb. Also during 1 episode wanting to put my head through a glass door - just to relieve the anxiety. However then I remembered when my mindset helped me survive. I was rushed to the hospital with what turned out to be acute severe pancreatitis. The pain was immense. However when I got to hospital I was given a bed, I was begging to be seen, begging for any pain relief - only for a nurse to tell me I can't get pain killers until I'd been seen by a dr & that I was 13th on the list & only 1 doctor (she was a complete cow about it) so much for triage! It was about 4 hours until I eventually got pain relief - a morphine pump (which I had for a week). I was also told by the consultant that I was very lucky to have survived this. But Somehow in those 4 hours that felt more like 10, I was able to not panic & try & zone out of the pain. It's made me think I'm capable of pushing through things better than I do, it is possible.
 
Congratulations on the title thread @barre19 👌 Sums the situation up perfectly!
And thank you CM for your kind words on the last thread 💗.
Am determined to have a great year, seeing as the last two have been shite! just got to pull myself out of this slump, but I'm getting there 💪🏼

So, I see sockbro is posting the odd "song" thank you @welp for as always being diligent and the fount of all knowledge! I'm sure she has had some formal warning of some sort, or had seen how many fines she has racked up from breaking the RO. Plus as a few have mentioned the therapy sessions, and I agree they are probably panicking her, as hopefully the kids are starting to open up to what they are really feeling and how their relationship with big Al is really like.
I'd like to be optimistic and saying maybe, just maybe mAlice has turned a corner...but history sadly has shown us, that she's not capable (I hope one day she will).
Does she have to appear at these up and coming court cases?
 
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brie l said:
Butter Tart, you have been so good getting us previous court docs. I'm happy to look at getting any custody docs that become available, depending on what costly means.I just need help with where to find them. Do you know what the court charges for docs like this?
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They are USD$1 per page and max out at (I think?) 60 or 70 pages in terms of charges. A transcript would have to be ordered separately from the court. Not sure how much that is as I’ve never done it.
 
Dear fellow Turds, I wish you all a happy, healthy, peaceful and all-around fantastic 2023! 🤩

I’d love to say that I’m sure this will be the year we’ll see a positive conclusion to this shitshow, but even with Alice’s current radio silence, I find it hard to believe that there will ever be true peace. It’s both fascinating and sad to see the histrionics of one person impact the lives of so many others so profoundly. Alice keeps Yo, the two Es and even Bianca from moving on and building themselves a future of their choosing, and even from just living their lives every day. Well, one could argue that Bianca can walk away if she so wishes, but I think we all know it’s not that simple in real life.

And Alice herself... Not only does she make everyone else miserable, but she seems dead set on turning her life into the absolute worst place possible, namely one in a stationary orbit around revenge, hatred and self-pity. She also limits herself – and her daughters – to a radius of a few miles around her Yo’s decrepit house (and no, Alice, I don’t want to hear that you’re too broke to go anywhere – you’re not, and even if you were, you could have played ball during Yo’s attempt at a collaborative divorce, got yourself a very fair settlement and lived comfortably ever after). There is a whole world out there, filled with adventure and excitement and growth, and she deprives herself, Ella and Elsie of it all. Man, even that poor dog would surely like to sniff something other than that biohazard of a yard she lives in.

I know it’s unreasonable at this point, but here’s to hoping I’m wrong and she has actually started to see the light.

 
I gotta say this: I don’t wish Alice a prosperous New Year for her own sake but for the sake of her girls, who have been proven to front her temper tantrums time and again and are probably having their ears talked off at this very moment about whatever circumstances have caused her social media radio silence.

Only love for those in here who have sincerely hoped that she has turned the corner for her own welfare but I’m just not the one to wish her well, I’m afraid. Between B’s infert*lity advocacy on Twitter; the domestic assault; the child abuse; the ongoing, dangerous series of lies that not only damage Ioan’s career/reputation and at one point turned his own fanbase against him, but have likely also caused him emotional harm and severe anxiety; and the grifting of funds from the pockets of people who can hardly afford to sustain themselves…I have no sympathy. I have no empathy. I have no desire to see her better herself for her own good, but rather for the good of the two young, impressionable, and abused individuals sharing a home with her and relying on her for every form of support.

And there’s nothing wrong with that! If anyone else in here doesn’t wish her well for her own benefit—that’s alright. She’s brimming with cruelty and a nearly irreversible thirst for vengeance. I spare my empathy/sympathy for people whose inner torment causes their own self-destruction—I don’t offer a sliver of it to people who allow that torment to bleed into others’ lives and damage them. We all get one life here; there’s no reason nor excuse to complicate someone else’s existence if they’re innocent people, and especially if they’re victims of abuse who are attempting to claw their way to sanctuary.

Sorry, peeps—no salvation in my house. Like I said I maintain respect for the friends in here who wish her well for the sake of herself; I wholeheartedly validate your kindness. But I just want to make space for anyone in here who is quietly only wishing her well so that she will treat those children with the respect, protection, love, and support they have deserved since their exiting the damn birth canal.

Well wishes to Alice for the sake of her being a better mam? Hell yes.

Well wishes to Alice for Alice? Nah.

Wishing y’all a great day. ❤🥰
 
ButterTart said:
They are USD$1 per page and max out at (I think?) 60 or 70 pages in terms of charges. A transcript would have to be ordered separately from the court. Not sure how much that is as I’ve never done it.
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Thanks, I'm happy to help with any court docs, please could you keep an eye out if they get posted.

ReturningthePearls said:
I gotta say this: I don’t wish Alice a prosperous New Year for her own sake but for the sake of her girls, who have been proven to front her temper tantrums time and again and are probably having their ears talked off at this very moment about whatever circumstances have caused her social media radio silence.

Only love for those in here who have sincerely hoped that she has turned the corner for her own welfare but I’m just not the one to wish her well, I’m afraid. Between B’s infert*lity advocacy on Twitter; the domestic assault; the child abuse; the ongoing, dangerous series of lies that not only damage Ioan’s career/reputation and at one point turned his own fanbase against him, but have likely also caused him emotional harm and severe anxiety; and the grifting of funds from the pockets of people who can hardly afford to sustain themselves…I have no sympathy. I have no empathy. I have no desire to see her better herself for her own good, but rather for the good of the two young, impressionable, and abused individuals sharing a home with her and relying on her for every form of support.

And there’s nothing wrong with that! If anyone else in here doesn’t wish her well for her own benefit—that’s alright. She’s brimming with cruelty and a nearly irreversible thirst for vengeance. I spare my empathy/sympathy for people whose inner torment causes their own self-destruction—I don’t offer a sliver of it to people who allow that torment to bleed into others’ lives and damage them. We all get one life here; there’s no reason nor excuse to complicate someone else’s existence if they’re innocent people, and especially if they’re victims of abuse who are attempting to claw their way to sanctuary.

Sorry, peeps—no salvation in my house. Like I said I maintain respect for the friends in here who wish her well for the sake of herself; I wholeheartedly validate your kindness. But I just want to make space for anyone in here who is quietly only wishing her well so that she will treat those children with the respect, protection, love, and support they have deserved since their exiting the damn birth canal.

Well wishes to Alice for the sake of her being a better mam? Hell yes.

Well wishes to Alice for Alice? Nah.

Wishing y’all a great day. ❤🥰
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Yip, Alice is a bleep.
 
hermionegrangerrrr said:
Ioan desperately needs to sell the house because he’s paying us to make stuff up, of course
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And we are worth every cent!!

Lovegin said:
I’ve noticed since the Twitter suspensions fizzbop has been missing from the Mail’s comments section
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She's still active on the DM but seems to be yet another Alice ex-FM. She is busy hating on Meghan now, not IG and BW. However you get your fix I suppose...

WinterSolstice said:
[Fizzbop], or someone claiming to be them, came on here and said they’d changed their opinion of her because of her taking money from followers while not being broke.
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Yeah she started well and then began to spread AE's batshit narrative. Disingenuous, as her former Queen would say.
 
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ReturningthePearls said:
Only love for those in here who have sincerely hoped that she has turned the corner for her own welfare but I’m just not the one to wish her well, I’m afraid. Between B’s infert*lity advocacy on Twitter; the domestic assault; the child abuse; the ongoing, dangerous series of lies that not only damage Ioan’s career/reputation and at one point turned his own fanbase against him, but have likely also caused him emotional harm and severe anxiety; and the grifting of funds from the pockets of people who can hardly afford to sustain themselves…I have no sympathy. I have no empathy.
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Her karmic debt is substantial, and the bill seems to be coming due now. No husband, no job, no home, no money, no nothing. Alice by her own jackassery manifested one hell of a sucky life for herself. And, infuriatingly, for her kids.
 
ReturningthePearls said:
I gotta say this: I don’t wish Alice a prosperous New Year for her own sake but for the sake of her girls, who have been proven to front her temper tantrums time and again and are probably having their ears talked off at this very moment about whatever circumstances have caused her social media radio silence.

Only love for those in here who have sincerely hoped that she has turned the corner for her own welfare but I’m just not the one to wish her well, I’m afraid. Between B’s infert*lity advocacy on Twitter; the domestic assault; the child abuse; the ongoing, dangerous series of lies that not only damage Ioan’s career/reputation and at one point turned his own fanbase against him, but have likely also caused him emotional harm and severe anxiety; and the grifting of funds from the pockets of people who can hardly afford to sustain themselves…I have no sympathy. I have no empathy. I have no desire to see her better herself for her own good, but rather for the good of the two young, impressionable, and abused individuals sharing a home with her and relying on her for every form of support.

And there’s nothing wrong with that! If anyone else in here doesn’t wish her well for her own benefit—that’s alright. She’s brimming with cruelty and a nearly irreversible thirst for vengeance. I spare my empathy/sympathy for people whose inner torment causes their own self-destruction—I don’t offer a sliver of it to people who allow that torment to bleed into others’ lives and damage them. We all get one life here; there’s no reason nor excuse to complicate someone else’s existence if they’re innocent people, and especially if they’re victims of abuse who are attempting to claw their way to sanctuary.

Sorry, peeps—no salvation in my house. Like I said I maintain respect for the friends in here who wish her well for the sake of herself; I wholeheartedly validate your kindness. But I just want to make space for anyone in here who is quietly only wishing her well so that she will treat those children with the respect, protection, love, and support they have deserved since their exiting the damn birth canal.

Well wishes to Alice for the sake of her being a better mam? Hell yes.

Well wishes to Alice for Alice? Nah.

Wishing y’all a great day. ❤🥰
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Oh, so well said Pearls ❤️
 
hopefully it's true and it's not like all the other times and Alice just pulled some stunt
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welp said:
hopefully it's true and it's not like all the other times and Alice just pulled some stunt
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its just narratives. All BS.
You don’t go from talking suicide and your daughter intervening on SM. To being forced off twitter - she was, cos no way would she come off willingly. To being better than ever. Bull tit , esp with upcoming court case and Biancas daily mail article and posting .
 
I’m so bleeping confused at this point. Alice and the girls are happy, then they’re crying, then they’re comfortable and elated, then Alice is having “panic attacks,” then they’re doing “better than ever!!!” (Obvs this isn’t a criticism of the girls.) Like we all know Casa La Jolla is a Trauma Castle and the pool is probably still green and everything’s messy and everyone’s miserable but sweet Jesus I can’t keep up with the fibs. Alice wants to prove she’s better off without Ioan to spite him yet at the same time still wants to paw for sympathy from her followers; it’s like she’s trying to juggle the two simultaneously but it just comes off as bizarre and annoying. Pick one and stick with it.
 
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