Harry and Meghan #76 If they won't see reason, do we still hang people for treason?

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Baguette said:
Let's go back to the transcript and check what Harry actually said the phrase was:

Oprah: Can you . . . can you tell us what the question was?

Harry: No. I don’t . . . I’m not comfortable with sharing that.

Oprah: OK.

Harry: But that was . . . that was right at the beginning, right?

Oprah: Like, what will the baby look like?

Harry: Yeah, what will the kids look like?

Despite all of Oprah's loaded questions, Harry said the comment amounted to 'What will the kids look like?'

So in Harry's own words, there is nothing there about colour, dark skin or any of that. The interview is very, very clever at using loaded questions to make you think Harry said something he didn't say.
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Exactly. Also, their accounts were different, weren’t they? Didn’t H say it was earlier on, when they got engaged, and M said it was while she was ‘pregnant’? I may have misinterpreted that but I’m pretty sure this is what was said.
 
Magnolia23 said:
Thb I personally think Harry is on spectrum. (Not diagnosing just my opinion)
It would explain his:

special treatments by his mum (as it was discussed here many times)
special treatments after she passed
Extra protective behaviour from William
Having issues with Eton A-levels
Dropping of college
Failing the helicopter pilot test numerous times
The unawaranes of wearing nazi costume to a party is not appropriate
(Plus all the stupid things he did and said)
How easy he is manipulated/influenced by others
...and I could carry on....

I don't think it's just down to his 'stupidity' I think there is more to it looking at his past.
(Not defending his actions of course, just a thought as you can call kid naughty not knowing they are on spectrum..)
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No, he doesn't show any signs of being autistic. Absolutely not.
 
xforeverlove21 said:
She'll probably use her calligraphy skills to create a card and then claim Archie did it (similar to how a 1 year old North posted Kim's nudes on Twitter :rolleyes:). I mean Archie's first word is crocodile so surely he's intelligent and sophisticated enough to do a card like this on his own.
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I've just started reading this book about Princess Margaret and was struck by the similarity.

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rivermonster said:
You are probably not old enough, my mother always called it that.
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If only ... I'm almost exact contemporary of Diana, remember saying on her wedding day that I wouldn't be in her shoes for the world.
 
mb1202 said:
Exactly. Also, their accounts were different, weren’t they? Didn’t H say it was earlier on, when they got engaged, and M said it was while she was ‘pregnant’? I may have misinterpreted that but I’m pretty sure this is what was said.
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What Harry said:

Harry: But that was right at the beginning, when she wasn’t going to get security, when members of my family were suggesting that she carries on acting, because there was not enough money to pay for her, and all this sort of stuff. Like, there was some real obvious signs before we even got married that this was going to be really hard.

What Meghan said:

Meghan: But I can give you an honest answer. In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time . . .  so we have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security, he’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.
Oprah: What?
Meghan: And . . .
Oprah: Who . . . who is having that conversation with you? What?
Meghan: So . . .
Oprah: There is a conversation . . . hold on. Hold up. Hold up. Stop right now.
Meghan: There were . . . there were several conversations about it.
Oprah: There’s a conversation with you . . ?
Meghan: With Harry.
 
Ok I might be being a bit crazy so call me out if so! Haha
But all the posts about Meghan copying Diana made me think of Meghan’s earlier engagements where she often does weird things with her mouth.... did some Googling and to me it looks like she was mimicking Diana’s expressions?! Jutting her jaw out and baring her lower teeth compared to her natural ‘Hollywood’ smile where you can normally only see her top teeth.
obviously there are hundreds of photos snapped at these engagements so could just be by chance but it’s creepy if she had studied Diana’s mannerisms!
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mb1202 said:
My take on it is that no one said it at all. Look at the facts, M is mixed but very light skinned and Harry is white with red hair, ie pretty much the lightest colouring you can have besides having albinism. That baby was never going to be dark, let’s credit the RF with some intelligence here, they would have been able to see that. There’s speculation because M deliberately left it open to it, by not naming anyone. They may have made an innocent comment such as I wonder who he’ll look like, but I guarantee it wasn’t some racist hateful comment.

Also, M said it in the context of it being the reason Archie didn’t get a title, i.e. there were concerns over his skin colour which is why he wasn’t given the Prince title or security. This is all total bollocks.

M is a liar, and I don’t think anyone made the fabled comment.

Edit- how have the Cambridges overdone the PR!? One pre planned engagement where William said the family aren’t racist, Kate very low key at Sarah Everard’s memorial and a Mother’s Day post... ffs.
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Exactly this , MM sat there and blatantly lied . To say Archie was not made a Prince because of the colour of his skin when at another point she very briefly acknowledged the line of succession act ( or whatever it is ) , and people have actually fallen for it 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
kittenattack said:
No, he doesn't show any signs of being autistic. Absolutely not.
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I agree. I don’t think he’s on the spectrum at all. My take is that he is fairly low intelligence, has lived a strange life and was hugely affected by his mother’s death and has never come to terms with it. He’s spoilt and in some ways quite an angry man, always being known as the spare must be quite galling. MM just targeted his weaknesses, presented herself as a strong female influence which arguably he desperately wanted. She put on a good show to give him the impression she’s cut from the same cloth as Diana. M is just a manipulative, horrible narc and liar.
 
MrsJennings said:
Ok I might be being a bit crazy so call me out if so! Haha
But all the posts about Meghan copying Diana made me think of Meghan’s earlier engagements where she often does weird things with her mouth.... did some Googling and to me it looks like she was mimicking Diana’s expressions?! Jutting her jaw out and baring her lower teeth compared to her natural ‘Hollywood’ smile where you can normally only see her top teeth.
obviously there are hundreds of photos snapped at these engagements so could just be by chance but it’s creepy if she had studied Diana’s mannerisms!
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Yes 100% she copies her mannerisms, speech patterns and facial expressions. This runs deeper than wearing similar clothes. It’s the creepiest most contrived thing imaginable.
 
antisocialmedia said:
I don't think he has. Autistic people are clever, Harry is thick. 😅
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Until Prince George came along in 2013, Harry really was the 'spare', so they had to keep up the pretence that he was in any way suitable to sit on the throne. He's not very bright (academic/Sandhurst records show that) but there's something else going on as well. They should have started quietly downgrading Harry's importance long, long ago.
 
antisocialmedia said:
I don't think he has. Autistic people are clever, Harry is thick. 😅
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You might be mixing it up with Asperger's, which is an aspect of Autism, and most people with Asperger's are indeed clever. Autism is a spectrum, and many do have learning difficulties. But I do agree that Harry does not seem autistic. I suspect learning difficulties, childhood trauma, maybe ADHD, plus being overindulged because of the aforementioned issues...(but not an expert, obviously).
 
Baguette said:
Until Prince George came along in 2013, Harry really was the 'spare', so they had to keep up the pretence that he was in any way suitable to sit on the throne. He's not very bright (academic/Sandhurst records show that) but there's something else going on as well. They should have started quietly downgrading Harry's importance long, long ago.
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What sort of something?
 
Magnolia23 said:
Thb I personally think Harry is on spectrum. (Not diagnosing just my opinion)
It would explain his:

special treatments by his mum (as it was discussed here many times)
special treatments after she passed
Extra protective behaviour from William
Having issues with Eton A-levels
Dropping of college
Failing the helicopter pilot test numerous times
The unawaranes of wearing nazi costume to a party is not appropriate
(Plus all the stupid things he did and said)
How easy he is manipulated/influenced by others
...and I could carry on....

I don't think it's just down to his 'stupidity' I think there is more to it looking at his past.
(Not defending his actions of course, just a thought as you can call kid naughty not knowing they are on spectrum..)
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not autistic - but serious learning difficulties. Instead of handling it properly like they would today, they tried to shoehorn him into mainstream education and he clearly struggled a lot
 
Margot1977 said:
You might be mixing it up with Asperger's, which is an aspect of Autism, and most people with Asperger's are indeed clever. Autism is a spectrum, and many do have learning difficulties. But I do agree that Harry does not seem autistic. I suspect learning difficulties, childhood trauma, maybe ADHD, plus being overindulged because of the aforementioned issues...(but not an expert, obviously).
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I agree with this. I think it’s more to do with his childhood trauma and being of a fairly low intellect than him having an on the spectrum disorder.
 
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