Harry and Meghan #34 Maleficent Meghan and her Petulant Prince'

[antinoos]

Hopefully Charles will use this as an opportunity to educate Harry. They simply can't carry on like this, all the melodrama is a ludicrous way to carry on. Who will hire them for anything, when you see how petty and entitled they are. I hope he actually talks to Harry, explains the facts of life.

Its actually very dangerous funding someone elses litigation. Its called "maintenance" and its fundamentally unlawful the punishment being liability for the other parties costs. If the Mail really wanted to stir up some tit they could demand proof of whose paying for this. Especially if she Discontinues and they can argue it was all a sham!

It really is one of the biggest shitshows Ive ever seen nearly as cringe to watch as the bloody wedding.

 

[Carey2020]

Bit thick I'm afraid, if they name them, what then? Also, wish one would break ranks, they've not much left to lose really...

 

[mardymare]

Margot1977 I've made your pic
Ps had to screenshot your post as it's on the old thread also sorry on colour, my blue filter light was on x

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Here you go x

Oh no it's come out crap it's took it with the fliter on For Fox Sake!

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Haha well done Pom Bear....

 

[Campagne]

Oh Curly you were a thread legend! I feel like I personally know royalty myself now! I was just a lurker from the start but I know exactly what you mean. Even from a fashion perspective when they got rid of the 'gossip' element of the thread, she was still unslateable.

Yes, QueenoftheAndals was always defending her. Used to drive me nuts.

i did however love talking about Queen Maxima and her mad clothes.
i see they did have a thread about Princess Beatrice’s wedding dress, then nothing since.

Anyway, I prefer it here; I don’t think I could be bothered to negotiate the «wokeness

 

[Miss Havisham]

I am puzzled by the “young mothers” reference.
Is she suggesting that someone who is a mum, shouldn’t be expected to give evidence in court. If not, why?
What does she mean by young?
My idea of a young mum, would be someone in their late teens. Early twenties at a push..

 

[antinoos]

I am puzzled by the “young mothers” reference.
Is she suggesting that someone who is a mum, shouldn’t be expected to give evidence in court. If not, why?
What does she mean by young?
My idea of a young mum, would be someone in their late teens. Early twenties at a push..

She has said in a Witness Statement that because they are young mothers (amongst other reasons) they are particularly vulnerable to the kind of Press intrusion the Mail will visit on them for helping their friend. Thats one of the reasons its such a hopeless argument. If she wins any "young mother" (whatever that might actually mean these days!) would be entitled to anonymity. Its also in my view quite sexist.

 

[Oona]

Its actually very dangerous funding someone elses litigation. Its called "maintenance" and its fundamentally unlawful the punishment being liability for the other parties costs. If the Mail really wanted to stir up some tit they could demand proof of whose paying for this. Especially if she Discontinues and they can argue it was all a sham!

It really is one of the biggest shitshows Ive ever seen nearly as cringe to watch as the bloody wedding.

I posted this for you in the previous thread, you probably did not see it, it's about the article in the Times claiming that they were advised and offered help with her dad already before the engagement and many times after the engagement but refused:

"Any thoughts about the removed Times article? I just read it again and if it's true it is pretty amazing. Meghan has in that case not seen har dad since at least June 2016. Harry has never met him. Yet they claim that the media destroyed her relationship with him. Also, where did the article go?"

The Sun still refers to the original article:

Harry and Meg rejected offers to help protect her 'troubled' dad, book claims

PRINCE Harry and Meghan Markle rejected offers to help protect Thomas Markle, sources have claimed. Palace aides have revealed the pair refused to “engage” with Meghan’s dad ahead…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[Miss Havisham]

She has said in a Witness Statement that because they are young mothers (amongst other reasons) they are particularly vulnerable to the kind of Press intrusion the Mail will visit on them for helping their friend. Thats one of the reasons its such a hopeless argument. If she wins any "young mother" (whatever that might actually mean these days!) would be entitled to anonymity. Its also in my view quite sexist.

I agree that it does come across as quite sexist.
It’s all very odd. It’s comes across like she is making up the rules - and they all sound rather ridiculous.

 

[Campagne]

She has said in a Witness Statement that because they are young mothers (amongst other reasons) they are particularly vulnerable to the kind of Press intrusion the Mail will visit on them for helping their friend. Thats one of the reasons its such a hopeless argument. If she wins any "young mother" (whatever that might actually mean these days!) would be entitled to anonymity. Its also in my view quite sexist.

None of her friends are young mums; they’re all pushing 40.
They might have youngish (primary age) children.
Anyway; they were happy to lie for her when she was a duchess.
Now she’s an ex Royal; squatting in LA, I think they should all be cross examined.
A full trial, with the 5 friends taking the stand, and Thomas Markle for the defence.


And as Aunty Legal said; the DM should demand to know who’s paying.
(Cos if it’s Charles; out of effectively tax payer funds, then it is definitely in the public interest)

 

[catp]

Best bit of the whole "Abigail Spencer" being accidentally named is that no-one knows her.

Lots of Twitter comments asking who she is. " Is she a relative of Diana Spencer?" was a good one!

Nope, she was another supporting role actress on cable show Suits.

So a similar "fame" level to our supposed "Hollywood" actress and "Mega star" Meghan Markle before she met Harry when hardly anyone knew who she was, either

 

[HereWeGoAgain101]

"Dont give him your name Pike!"

The shitshow for the reputation of the glamour girls and boys of 5RB (sounds like an experimental back rub) continues apace.

Warby will rule sometime in August whether the Five Former Friends (FFF) have "a super-charged right of privacy" (what the duck you might ask is that?) because they are (birdies tweet and butterflies fly) "young mothers" and "journalistic sources" doing the right thing by their much loved and widely admired friend who has been the victim of bullying by the baying racist mob that is the British public led by "Bloody Elizabeth" their hated monarch and her evil army of tabloid Orcs.

I could be wrong but - Good luck with that Justin.

We also now know a lot more about just how much money is being burnt in public here. She has agreed to pay nearly £70k of hard fought costs in respect of Mays disaster. Her own costs of that, a minute part of the overall picture, must be at least the same. Thats nearly £150k down the kazi. If as I suspect everyone expects, she looses in August thats at least another £150k. This is just on two small procedural Applications. The Claimant has also paid to write letters to the Mail; draft and issue a Claim; answer two sets of Further Particulars; consider a Defence and Reply and prepare for the next step which is a Directions Hearing. I would be amazed if shes spent less than £500k of someones money! The costs of the next stages and trial will take that into millions - and if she looses? Will it by 2% on Income Tax?

This is what happens when you give a showgirl your credit card and suggest they buy themselves something nice because theyve been crying. They come back with a Sikorski helicopter and a pilot who looks like Brad Pitt.

Just what is this litigation actually about? Its not protecting anything private. That bird has flown. Its not righting any kind of wrong and the Daily Mail (which is just loving this - the best PR campaign ever; its even managing to make the bastards look good) is unreformable. No this Claim was initially about money and vengeance and now its about protecting the identity of the FFF. I mean what the actual duck?

As clever poppet 50'sGirl (I cant do that underlining thing sorry) commented perhaps shes looking for an excuse to bail out on the grounds she is protecting her friends. In which context the line in her Witness Statement "To disclose their identities at this stage in public is an unaceptable price to pay..." sounds very interesting.

People get involved in litigation for various reasons. For us lawyers its just an often interesting but also dangerous and demanding job for the "Clients" its often existential. The worst problem of their lives: involving life changing sums of money, reputation, sometimes even liberty itself and at huge unpredictable cost.

The best clients are poor people. Its rarely their fault that they have got involved whereas greed and lies often lie at the heart of litigation for people who can afford it; they are a joy to work with and they are the only ones who are ever grateful. Oh and murderers. They are often perfectly happy having done what we'd all secretly like to do to someone who has pissed us off, and resigned to their fate.

The worst are the liars, the crooks, the fraudsters the common enemies of mankind. They often dont want to win and are undertaking the litigation to punish someone or because they love the drama or because they are not paying and have no intention of paying and being shits is what they do.

What do you think we are looking at here?

I was once taken to court by an unscrupulous person who was using a photograph of a certain Welsh poet as a honey trap in terms of copyright. He didn’t believe in fair use (there was no commercial use of the image, it was on a blog). He was extremely aggressive, threatening and actually subjected me to one of the worst years of my life. It caused me to lose sleep, be short with family members and actually went some way to changing my happy go lucky personality.

I’m sure the actress is lapping up the drama, after all it’s keeping her in the media spotlight. I cannot imagine what it’s doing to the FFFs though. If as is said they are not rich or famous. It’s the first thing on your mind in the morning and the last thing on your mind at night. My prediction is that their friendship will end with the court case. I settled out of court just to get on with my life. However others went to court and won, I just wanted the torment to end.

She has well and truly thrown 5 people (friends) under a bus!!

 

[Just_me1954]

 

[antinoos]

I posted this for you in the previous thread, you probably did not see it, it's about the article in the Times claiming that they were advised and offered help with her dad already before the engagement and many times after the engagement but refused:

"Any thoughts about the removed Times article? I just read it again and if it's true it is pretty amazing. Meghan has in that case not seen har dad since at least June 2016. Harry has never met him. Yet they claim that the media destroyed her relationship with him. Also, where did the article go?"

The Sun still refers to the original article:

Harry and Meg rejected offers to help protect her 'troubled' dad, book claims

PRINCE Harry and Meghan Markle rejected offers to help protect Thomas Markle, sources have claimed. Palace aides have revealed the pair refused to “engage” with Meghan’s dad ahead…

www.thesun.co.uk

Maintenance is actually paying or even contributing to someones legal bills. Never do it! Obviously a waste of money with additional hidden dangers.

This just confirms other very unattractive things about both of them that are frankly unsurprising. If you piss off a lot of "little people" when you are riding high they are going to pubicise their justifiable grievances when you come off your horse. There will be a lot more of this kind of thing. No NDA lasts forever! A pair of prize bastards.

I was once taken to court by an unscrupulous person who was using a photograph of a certain Welsh poet as a honey trap in terms of copyright. He didn’t believe in fair use (there was no commercial use of the image, it was on a blog). He was extremely aggressive, threatening and actually subjected me to one of the worst years of my life. It caused me to lose sleep, be short with family members and actually went some way to changing my happy go lucky personality.

I’m sure the actress is lapping up the drama, after all it’s keeping her in the media spotlight. I cannot imagine what it’s doing to the FFFs though. If as is said they are not rich or famous. It’s the first thing on your mind in the morning and the last thing on your mind at night. My prediction is that their friendship will end with the court case. I settled out of court just to get on with my life. However others went to court and won, I just wanted the torment to end.

She has well and truly thrown 5 people (friends) under a bus!!

I really really hate people like that. I used to delight in taking them down (though its never easy because the law is so painstakingly fair). Its one of the worst forms of abuse and bullying. If I had my way we'd get all medieval on their asses and brand V L on their cheeks for Vexatious Litigant.

 

[catp]

Its actually very dangerous funding someone elses litigation. Its called "maintenance" and its fundamentally unlawful the punishment being liability for the other parties costs. If the Mail really wanted to stir up some tit they could demand proof of whose paying for this. Especially if she Discontinues and they can argue it was all a sham!

It really is one of the biggest shitshows Ive ever seen nearly as cringe to watch as the bloody wedding.

That is really interesting. I can't believe the RF lawyers haven't considered this.

 

[Toto]

@antinoos Thank you Aunty Legal for explaining all the legal stuff.

I love your bitchy asides. This one cracked me up:

This is what happens when you give a showgirl your credit card and suggest they buy themselves something nice because theyve been crying. They come back with a Sikorski helicopter and a pilot who looks like Brad Pitt.

Can I ask about your "or" in this post please?

DM Either give us £1m and put out a Statement saying sorry or file a "Notice of Dicontinuance" which entitles us automatically to all our costs (assessed) and is Unconditional Surrender and we will then publish all the tit we have been gathering on you and the Princeling and you can crawl back under a rock

Does this mean that if M coughs up lots of (Prince Charles') money and says sorry to the DM, that the DM can't then publish all the dirt on her that they would otherwise have used in their defence?

Thank you.

 

[Yorkiejules]

I really hope the DM doesn't accept if she tries to settle and does everything they can to expose her...I know,harsh but fair.i also hope Charles suspends maintenance payments and they bankrupt her and every other law suit goes the whole way to make sure they win...so her name will be mud and
She is finally recognised as the crunt we all know her to be...
Next thing all the 5 will sue her for harassment if they get named and she has to pay their costs,
Then the powers that be sue her for the dodgy accounts and misappropriation of charity funds.
Then every John doe in the world sues her for defamation of character..
Then the surrogacy comes out and the lies about 3 baby Archie...
Then Tyler Perry sues for squatting
Then she's called in the Maxwell trial as a yacht girl
Then she's hauled over the coals for deep state dealings
Then she's sued for crimes of fashion....
At the same time as fighting a divorce and trying to get custody of the moon bump,I mean Archie...
Then sued for perjury and wasting time and perverting the course of justice
And inciting sugared almonds to threaten and unlawfully use the race card and for promoting race hate
And if I forgot anything...that as well...

 

[leoladyxo]

Its actually very dangerous funding someone elses litigation. Its called "maintenance" and its fundamentally unlawful the punishment being liability for the other parties costs. If the Mail really wanted to stir up some tit they could demand proof of whose paying for this. Especially if she Discontinues and they can argue it was all a sham!

It really is one of the biggest shitshows Ive ever seen nearly as cringe to watch as the bloody wedding.

Wow, I didn’t know this was against the law, but can see how it would be as it gives an unfair advantage.

From reading your posts, I really don’t see how Meghan could possibly win this case. It seems that all avenues are blocked and against her.

I think she can only be going ahead with the case at this point to fuel the victim narrative she has been busy building for herself.

 

[Silbee]

I was once taken to court by an unscrupulous person who was using a photograph of a certain Welsh poet as a honey trap in terms of copyright. He didn’t believe in fair use (there was no commercial use of the image, it was on a blog). He was extremely aggressive, threatening and actually subjected me to one of the worst years of my life. It caused me to lose sleep, be short with family members and actually went some way to changing my happy go lucky personality.

I’m sure the actress is lapping up the drama, after all it’s keeping her in the media spotlight. I cannot imagine what it’s doing to the FFFs though. If as is said they are not rich or famous. It’s the first thing on your mind in the morning and the last thing on your mind at night. My prediction is that their friendship will end with the court case. I settled out of court just to get on with my life. However others went to court and won, I just wanted the torment to end.

She has well and truly thrown 5 people (friends) under a bus!!

I agree with this. My late husband and I were involved in a lengthy case against his former partner for fraud. You don't sleep. I was lucky to get three to five hours a night. It wears you down to the nub, I don't recommend it at all.

 

[Baguette]

If anyone is interested, Our Ex-Royal Global Billion Dollar Speaker Haz pops up for about 5 minutes at the start of this morning's Zoom chat (the one they are calling a Travalyst Global Summit). Someone has found him a dark jacket and white shirt so no manky T-shirt, thankfully, and he's inside in a study (at last). He read said his pre-prepared word salad, did some nodding at other's peoples comments and then wasn't seen again. I lost the will to live so he might have popped up at the end.

ETA Oh and he is still using Joe Biden's campaign slogan 'Build Back Better'

 

[Silbee]

I really hope the DM doesn't accept if she tries to settle and does everything they can to expose her...I know,harsh but fair.i also hope Charles suspends maintenance payments and they bankrupt her and every other law suit goes the whole way to make sure they win...so her name will be mud and
She is finally recognised as the crunt we all know her to be...
Next thing all the 5 will sue her for harassment if they get named and she has to pay their costs,
Then the powers that be sue her for the dodgy accounts and misappropriation of charity funds.
Then every John doe in the world sues her for defamation of character..
Then the surrogacy comes out and the lies about 3 baby Archie...
Then Tyler Perry sues for squatting
Then she's called in the Maxwell trial as a yacht girl
Then she's hauled over the coals for deep state dealings
Then she's sued for crimes of fashion....
At the same time as fighting a divorce and trying to get custody of the moon bump,I mean Archie...
Then sued for perjury and wasting time and perverting the course of justice
And inciting sugared almonds to threaten and unlawfully use the race card and for promoting race hate
And if I forgot anything...that as well...

You have outdone yourself with this one! : - )