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She’ll no doubt plagiarise some memorable quote from somewhere, not realising google is our friend and she’ll always be found out. Daft bint.
I’m long in the tooth Aunty, and it’s amazing how true the old adage “there’s no smoke without fire, often has an element of truth to it. I know from a legal POV one must always think innocent until proven guilty, but I’m prepared to put top dollar on Ms. Maxwell being submerged well and truly up to her eyeballs in this tit show, otherwise why hide? Too many young girls saying she groomed them for my liking 🤷🏼‍♀️


All this claptrap about the BRF protecting their Rh Neg bloodlines is bollocks. The different blood groups were only identified in the early 1900s. Prior to that they wouldn’t have a clue who had the right blood or not. All they appear to have done is stick to their “own kind” until recently. That inter-breeding is gonna be the death of them 🥴

I’m agreeing with herewegoagain, listening to the podcast ‘broken’ , she was a participant in the abuse. It wasn’t just sexual abuse, it was about controlling behaviour too. They both got off on it. GM was damaged by her father. JE should have been in jail/had his fortune taken off him but escaped from a giant ponzi without arrest by luck, namely being a consultant rather than an employee/director and the prosecution not pursuing it.
She got him into the social circles he craved and she got girls into the car who would have ran from an older men. He would have abused girls but far fewer without her support.
 
Whoa!
Controversial.
Too much going on in the real world for stress here.
Let’s get back on topic.
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Do you think Meghan staged a dentist “baggie” with toothpaste and all?
After all, why take Harry to the dentist? Although, God knows, he needs to get his teeth looked after.
But, really went to see a fertility specialist ~ might need Harry for that. Lol
 
Lady C's book is a pretty good summary. At the outset Megz wanted control of the wedding and mostly got it - hence being able to disinvite all her family bar Doria, Harry's wider family (like Lady Amelia WIndsor) and pack it with Hollywood types that she didn't actually know. The wedding was running on a ridiculously tight schedule of 6 months anyway, and the persistent rumours were that H&M wouldn't make their decisions but were busy saying what they didn't want. I'd never heard the story about the 12 versions of Stand By Me but that fits right in. She wouldn't be the first Bridezilla so at the time I didn't think much of the noises leaking out.



The Harkles relentless, screaming PR is doing that. I mean, pap walk yesterday plus a flurry of press releases about the pap walk, PR for the clothing she was merching, the press pointing out their ridiculous use of a gas-guzzling Cadillac, the Harkles PR shouting 'Dentist' in case anyone starts writing about fertility doctors and IVF... it just goes on and on.

Oh, and someone has got to Karen Gibson of the Kingdom Choir

Sharing her thoughts on Meghan and Harry quitting royal life, Karen told Metro.co.uk: ‘It is disappointing because I actually think they’re an amazing couple. ‘Their aim is to do good in the world and they have plans so they couldn’t stay here anymore. It was such a brilliant beginning and now they feel that they’ve had to leave and that makes me feel sad, but I wish them all the best.’ She added: ‘I don’t blame them at all, I really hope and pray that they do what they’re meant to do in this world and influence in the best way possible.’

Not One. Single. Mention. of re-recording Stand By Me a dozen times. Hmmmmm.


I saw this in the DM yesterday, I’ve italic the bit about multiple attempts - Not convinced this is totally the same article, as I read yesterday,am sure the one yesterday said something about the wanting the beat removed & it changing the tone of the song, maybe something about what they wanted not possible

https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...rry-Meghan-Markle-rejected-song-10-times.html

Speaking to Notebook magazine, Ms Gibson said the couple asked for a 'stripped back' gospel rendition of the pop song, but the choir kept 'missing the mark' as they didn't understand what the couple wanted.

She said: 'After the sixth version they suggested we had a meeting so I took a few members of the choice to Kensington Palace. When they walked in, it was surreal. But they were lovely, smiley, warm, welcoming and very much in love.'

The choir spent an hour with the couple but it would still take a few more tries to get it right and the couple were pleased with attempt number 11.

The conductor Karen Gibson, 55, revealed that the now Duke and Duchess of Sussex (pictured) rejected ten different versions of Stand By Me before they found a version they liked
 
Controversial opinion, you are brave. :m But since we're here I'm not getting the problem with Andy. He had sex with a 17 yr old and that's not what I class as paedophilia, even though it is against the law in some countries. I doubt you could find a non sexually active pupil over the age of 15 /16 in any schools other than strict religious ones where virginity is a must before marriage.
Yes I'm aware he may be privy to nasty stuff but I doubt any of it would stand up in court even if he could recall any specific events.
I think a lot of people are using his downfall and the publicity seeking woman in question as a stick to beat the Royals with in another agenda. He's fucked up and Brenda has side lined him as much as a mother can with a 50 yr old man and the idea that she can drag him to the cop shop by the ear like a shop lifting 10 yr old is laughable.
He had sex with a 17 yr old years ago and that's not a big deal to me, sorry not sorry and that's all I'm saying on it.
(dons hard hat)
I think the thing is Freda - its not about differences of age its about differences of power/satus/wealth/access to the media. I know you and most of us know this, but the inequality becomes especially magnified with exposure. Weve all done things sexually we would not like revealing in public (dont speculate Aunty might sue or be flattered) but it is a grotesque inequality often exercised over very very young, vulnerable and underprivilged people.
I know its being expoloited to attack what are on the whole relatively benign power publically exposed structures like the BRF - can you iamgine what goes on in Sillicon Valley or the "art world" and moviesd? I know.
At the end of the day say Bill Wyman paid almost no price and the occasional public lynching of Z listers like Rolf Harris or Gary Glitter makes it even worse. As a basic exercise of moral values not taking advantage (as usually a naive rather odd extremely talented boy, the women are smarter - but not always) of fame. celebrity sudden wealth to duck up in every sense, everything that comes your way is about them not about you. It goes all the way from the Beatles (Remember Paul" said John in a famous tape. "It was like the Roman Empire") to the Lost Prophets. What makes Andrew etc especially unforgiveable is the abscene of any kind of redeeming talent and the casual collateral destruction of very vulnerable people, as much as the vile abuse.
Im going to shut up now. xx
 
Calm down, that's not what I said silly.
My point was that PA may have believed the girl was willing, you don't know.
None of us know. We were not there.
Is that why she’s publicly declared she was anything but? PA publicly and strenuously denying he ever even met VRG when there’s photographic and third party witness testimony to say differently. But, of course, he’s got absolutely nothing to hide

You obviously find tone difficult to read and this is anything but silly. How dismissive
 
Whoa!
Controversial.
Too much going on in the real world for stress here.
Let’s get back on topic.
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Do you think Meghan staged a dentist “baggie” with toothpaste and all?
After all, why take Harry to the dentist? Although, God knows, he needs to get his teeth looked after.
But, really went to see a fertility specialist ~ might need Harry for that. Lol

Was he errrm “battering“ the eggs? 🤪
 
So the correct assumption is that trafficked females are willing participants? Okay then, better inform https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/what-we-do/crime-threats/modern-slavery-and-human-trafficking and other worldwide agencies that they can finally disband

Perish the thought that men should question where so called willing young women appear from at parties around the world and remote islands


Wrong. That kind of attitude allowed vile men like Jimmy saville and Cyril Smith to pass undetected
Obviously you think it's wrong but I'm pointing out that attitudes were different back then and many young girls did sleep with celebrities willingly (often lying about their age). There was a whole culture of groupies back then.
Of course many were innocents that were taken advantage of, but don't assume that all young girls sleeping with celebs were forced in to it.
 
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Obviously you think it's wrong but I'm pointing out that attitudes were different back then and many young girls did sleep with celebrities willingly often lying about their age. There was a whole culture of groupies back then.
Of course many were innocents that were taken advantage of but don't assume that all young girls sleeping with celebs were forced in to it.
The justification you’re attempting is really quite something

You have no idea of my background or age, stop making patronising assumptions. This is completely derailing, so I’m stepping back into 2020, the air’s so much fresher
 
Whoa!
Controversial.
Too much going on in the real world for stress here.
Let’s get back on topic.
:m:m:m:m

Do you think Meghan staged a dentist “baggie” with toothpaste and all?
After all, why take Harry to the dentist? Although, God knows, he needs to get his teeth looked after.
But, really went to see a fertility specialist ~ might need Harry for that. Lol
Certainly she will have enjoyed prompting speculation, but it was seemingly just an outing to merch her outfit. İ don't understand why Harry isn't merching too - he could get a change from the greyness....
 
The justification you’re attempting is really quite something

You have no idea of my background or age, stop making patronising assumptions. This is completely derailing, so I’m stepping back into 2020, the air’s so much fresher
Bye then.

I'm not justifying it just saying that it happened. There was a girl at my school who got off with someone from a famous band ( can't remember the name of them) when she was 15 and she came to school bragging about her experience. Yes it was wrong but at the time she thought it was great.
 
Bye then.

I'm not justifying it just saying that it happened. There was a girl at my school who got off with someone from a famous band ( can't remember the name of them) when she was 15 and she came to school bragging about her experience. Yes it was wrong but at the time she thought it was great.
I happen to agree with Scotch Mist - I’m old enough to remember different times.

Of course it doesn’t make it right but young girls made out they were older than they were and obvs not all of them were shrinking violets. That’s putting it politely.

It’s difficult to marry it up with today’s attitudes, I know. This isn’t making excuses it’s just stating a fact.
 
I happen to agree with Scotch Mist - I’m old enough to remember different times.

Of course it doesn’t make it right but young girls made out they were older than they were and obvs not all of them were shrinking violets. That’s putting it politely.

It’s difficult to marry it up with today’s attitudes, I know. This isn’t making excuses it’s just stating a fact.
Thank you. Of course the girl I knew at school may have later regretted what happened and later realised that she was taken advantage of, but I don't know that for sure because I haven't seen her since school days finished.
 
probably ! 😆
obviously the circumstances around whether someone is being coerced into doing things against their will of feeling like they’re trapped in a situation they can’t escape from is something completely different . ..so for me PA must have known something was a bit amiss by the fact 75 teenage girls just happened to be on the island at the same time as he was.🤔

when I was 17 I genuinely felt like I knew it all, could do it all..and often did. I shall not mention a word about hotel jacuzzis with premier league footballers (under 23s😇)
Look at Hollywood though. So many young women and men flock there day after day by the bus load from ButtfuckEgypt hoping to be discovered and if #MeToo has taught us anything it's that these youngsters will do anything it takes to get the right introductions or invites to parties with Names attending. Maybe the one who shagged Randy dreamed of him falling for her and making her a princess. Like the smeggy/haribo story, only Randy was too cute to get snared.He dipped his wick and moved on.Just another notch. Look at the names being bandied around re those parties.... pushy kids dream of that kind of socialising. I mean Weinstein (spit!) etc. They had dreams and tried to fulfill them and it went tits up. Of course they're full of regret and some want revenge but many will have just shrugged that part of their life off and moved on.
It's like the cops arresting hookers and their Johns when what they should be doing is going after the pimps who earn from it. Just because Randy is a big name it doesn't mean he was involved in the procuring, basically he was just another John. People are using his situation to get at Brenda, simple as that.

Back on topic. I'm surprised smeggy never joined the MeToo outcry. It would be her kind of gig, her being a woman's advocate etc etc:rolleyes:. Maybe she's wary of opening that can of worms re her past.;)
 
Look at Hollywood though. So many young women and men flock there day after day by the bus load from ButtfuckEgypt hoping to be discovered and if #MeToo has taught us anything it's that these youngsters will do anything it takes to get the right introductions or invites to parties with Names attending. Maybe the one who shagged Randy dreamed of him falling for her and making her a princess. Like the smeggy/haribo story, only Randy was too cute to get snared.He dipped his wick and moved on.Just another notch. Look at the names being bandied around re those parties.... pushy kids dream of that kind of socialising. I mean Weinstein (spit!) etc. They had dreams and tried to fulfill them and it went tits up. Of course they're full of regret and some want revenge but many will have just shrugged that part of their life off and moved on.
It's like the cops arresting hookers and their Johns when what they should be doing is going after the pimps who earn from it. Just because Randy is a big name it doesn't mean he was involved in the procuring, basically he was just another John. People are using his situation to get at Brenda, simple as that.

Back on topic. I'm surprised smeggy never joined the MeToo outcry. It would be her kind of gig, her being a woman's advocate etc etc:rolleyes:. Maybe she's wary of opening that can of worms re her past.;)
I'm willing to put money on it that Meghan probably slept with a few sleazebags in the industry to try and secure a job. It is a bit odd that she has been silent about it as she loves to scream victimhood. Perhaps she just doesn't want Haribo to know about it.
 
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