Gemma Atkinson #6 we've seen her abs more than Gorka has seen the kids.

I raised a family, worked full time with a husband who worked overseas on different projects most of the time. I complained, I stamped my foot and cried lots but it’s the job and I knew that from the off. Just like Gemma, she knew it’s his job and brings in a lot of money for them. She also knows that he’s getting older and his time on Strictly is limited.
I agree with all of this but what I don't understand with Gemma and Gorka is that he is a 2 hour train journey away from home and yet chooses to spend days not workinin the gym in borehamwood or wherever he is based rather than taking the opportunity to see his kids. He filmed the Xmas special the week before last, is not in the final and whilst there will be undoubtedly some rehearsals going on for the final, I'm sure it's not every single hour of every single day. Gemma likes to present as a 'I've got this' type of person but actually she seems far from that in reality.
 
I agree with all of this but what I don't understand with Gemma and Gorka is that he is a 2 hour train journey away from home and yet chooses to spend days not workinin the gym in borehamwood or wherever he is based rather than taking the opportunity to see his kids. He filmed the Xmas special the week before last, is not in the final and whilst there will be undoubtedly some rehearsals going on for the final, I'm sure it's not every single hour of every single day. Gemma likes to present as a 'I've got this' type of person but actually she seems far from that in reality.

Exactly. Gorka doesn't work overseas, there's a fundamental difference, he could make a reasonable (albeit unpleasant) commute home. My OH used to work 6 days a week and would still commute 2 1/2 hours to see me at the evening after work. It's that cliche saying, if they wanted to, they could.
 
I know someone with three kids all 10+ and they’ve been engaged over 10 years. It’s more about the fact that Gorka doesn’t seem to like family life. He’s not nipping back to see them all when he could, he seems to actively try to stay away.
IMO he's a very immature man. I found going from 0 kids to 1 kid the biggest shock to the system so it was no odds when the others came along. They were still in the fairly early years of their relationship when Mia was born. He's definitely been different since Thiago came along and has frankly never seemed to be there! They've been together for much longer now so I do wonder whether the shine has come off quite a bit for him and the realities of a family life aren't really for him.
 
I think Gorka is very selfish and self-centred and hasn’t adjusted his life in the way you need to when you become a parent. We should also remember that he too was engaged before and it ended suddenly after his alleged assault in Blackpool with her immediately removing all trace of him from her life. I’d love to know the truth of what happened there.
 
I think Gorka is very selfish and self-centred and hasn’t adjusted his life in the way you need to when you become a parent. We should also remember that he too was engaged before and it ended suddenly after his alleged assault in Blackpool with her immediately removing all trace of him from her life. I’d love to know the truth of what happened there.
Gorka was engaged to the person who assaulted him in Blackpool?
 
Exactly! IMO it's a very old fashioned and misogynistic view that woman are waiting around for someone to 'put a ring on it'. Urgh no. I've been in my relationship for 30 years; we got married after 11 years and my eldest was born, largely because I became slightly obsessed about having a different surname to my son. I've never given a flying duck otherwise.

Agree marriage happens when it happens if at all but just to be clear- you know you can change your name without marriage and more importantly kids can (and imho should) take mums name if parents aren’t married.

the main reasons for marriage other than cultural ones are financial security. This is crucial if women leave pro or rescue hours to look after kids. It’s a hugely vulnerable position to be in if you aren’t married.
 
Gorka was engaged to the person who assaulted him in Blackpool?
Apparently she was seen leaving the hotel crying hysterically before the alleged incident which he said happened when he was punched in the face by a gang of youths when he went out with Neil and Aljaz. Nothing was reported to the police even though his teeth were apparently knocked out. She then deleted all trace of him from her social media.
 
Apparently she was seen leaving the hotel crying hysterically before the alleged incident which he said happened when he was punched in the face by a gang of youths when he went out with Neil and Aljaz. Nothing was reported to the police even though his teeth were apparently knocked out. She then deleted all trace of him from her social media.

Wasn’t there a gay bar involved? And he lost two teeth
 
They look much better suited as a couple, was she a dancer too?
Yeah she was a dancer as well. Agree, they do look like a couple. Out of all the contestants and dancers I would never have put Gem and Gork together.
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IMO he's a very immature man. I found going from 0 kids to 1 kid the biggest shock to the system so it was no odds when the others came along. They were still in the fairly early years of their relationship when Mia was born. He's definitely been different since Thiago came along and has frankly never seemed to be there! They've been together for much longer now so I do wonder whether the shine has come off quite a bit for him and the realities of a family life aren't really for him.
I think this is what’s happened as well. The spark has gone and he can’t handle the mundane family life.
 
Agree marriage happens when it happens if at all but just to be clear- you know you can change your name without marriage and more importantly kids can (and imho should) take mums name if parents aren’t married.

the main reasons for marriage other than cultural ones are financial security. This is crucial if women leave pro or rescue hours to look after kids. It’s a hugely vulnerable position to be in if you aren’t married.

I knew someone would say this and I nearly caveated my post with it but CBA, clearly I needed to 😅 I'm sure I speak for both me and the other poster when I say quite clearly we are educated enough to know that, obviously neither us had a problem with our child taking their father's name and it shouldn't be seen as this taboo, anti-feminist movement. There's a big difference between doing something from choice, and the same kind of thing that would be done many decades ago because there was none. Realistically there's a whole load of reasons people get married, and I don't think wanting to all share a surname is a bad one. It doesn't mean that's the only reason you do it (like you say, the security element is huge too), just gives you a bit of a push when it didn't seem too pressing beforehand. It is a piece of paper that humans have attached meaning to after all, it's really a none thing unless you are religious.
 
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