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Douglas Murray is fantastic, he has the measure of pretty much everybody and he does it in a humorous, cutting way at times.

I'm not a fan of Douglas myself, but in that clip where he was explaining his view and position on the gender issue thing Ava's first response was to attack him personally: "YOU do this, YOU do that, YOU spread fear etc. etc.". I mean to personally attack someone rather than counter their view with an alternate view was pretty pathetic, pointless, rude, and unhelpful. (You can do that later, once you've made your point)... :ROFLMAO:
 
That shows you've never watched. Ofcom found it broke balance rules for 1 10 min slot. But that means the other 99.99% didn't. They always have someone from the other side to balance it out. They never all agree and there's always someone to say an alternative viewpoint, apart from that 0.01% of the time where they messed up.
I've pretty much never watched it live, but I've seen plenty of clips shared on social media. Another thing they do is monologues where the presenter drones on and just gives their opinion on something, again unchallenged. That monologue pretty much always has the word "woke" in it multiples times.

Here's an example which took me all of 10 seconds to find:



A monologue from an a judgemental idiot whining about things like "collapse of the family" and "children born out of wedlock". The word "woke" is the first word in the title.

My nephew was born out of wedlock, but is being raised by his biological parents in a happy home in a nice area. Why is that bad? How can anyone convincingly argue that my nephew is suffering in any way because his parents are unmarried? How, in 2023, do we still have people complaining that children born to unmarried parents is wrong? It's gutter TV deliberately cultivated to appeal to the more judgemental people in society.

Sorry but it just sums up what a shite channel it is. I'm not actually calling for it to be banned, though, let them carry on - but I will continue to criticise it.
 
I'm not a fan of Douglas myself, but in that clip where he was explaining his view and position on the gender issue thing Ava's first response was to attack him personally: "YOU do this, YOU do that, YOU spread fear etc. etc.". I mean to personally attack someone rather than counter their view with an alternate view was pretty pathetic, pointless, rude, and unhelpful. (You can do that later, once you've made your point)... :ROFLMAO:
That happens to douglas alot, it ends up with personal attacks. The funniest one is with Piers Morgan and this awful guy who claims to represent the lgbtq lot, anyway he calls douglas a straight, white man and of course Douglas is very gay, it's on YouTube somewhere but this guys face is a picture when Douglas' points this out to him.
 
I've pretty much never watched it live, but I've seen plenty of clips shared on social media. Another thing they do is monologues where the presenter drones on and just gives their opinion on something, again unchallenged. That monologue pretty much always has the word "woke" in it multiples times.

Here's an example which took me all of 10 seconds to find:



A monologue from an a judgemental idiot whining about things like "collapse of the family" and "children born out of wedlock". The word "woke" is the first word in the title.

My nephew was born out of wedlock, but is being raised by his biological parents in a happy home in a nice area. Why is that bad? How can anyone convincingly argue that my nephew is suffering in any way because his parents are unmarried? How, in 2023, do we still have people complaining that children born to unmarried parents is wrong? It's gutter TV deliberately cultivated to appeal to the more judgemental people in society.

Sorry but it just sums up what a shite channel it is. I'm not actually calling for it to be banned, though, let them carry on - but I will continue to criticise it.

But you said subjects are raised and they agree with each other without any balance.
But that does not happen, after the presenter says their bit there will always be someone on to counter it. Would be
 
But you said subjects are raised and they agree with each other without any balance.
But that does not happen, after the presenter says their bit there will always be someone on to counter it. Would be
Here's an example I quickly found. All three express the same view - ie all anti Gary Lineker and Carol Vorderman. There was no disagreement at all, it's a conversation between three people that all agree:



Carol Vorderman has exercised her right to free speech and criticised GB News, hence them attacking her. Yet I thought they were pro freedom of speech and they're constantly attacking the BBC and pretty much anyone who disagrees with them. 🤣
 
Newsnight the other night discussing GB News and Laurence Fox all the panel agreed with one another and Adam Boulter is an awful man, it's worth checking out the triggernometry interview with Fox and the clips they show of Adam Boulter being absolutely vile to a woman while he thinks he's not being filmed.
 
Newsnight the other night discussing GB News and Laurence Fox all the panel agreed with one another and Adam Boulter is an awful man, it's worth checking out the triggernometry interview with Fox and the clips they show of Adam Boulter being absolutely vile to a woman while he thinks he's not being filmed.
Boulter is a long-term employee of Murdoch, whose TalkTV is the main rival to GB News.
 
Here's an example I quickly found. All three express the same view - ie all anti Gary Lineker and Carol Vorderman. There was no disagreement at all, it's a conversation between three people that all agree:



Carol Vorderman has exercised her right to free speech and criticised GB News, hence them attacking her. Yet I thought they were pro freedom of speech and they're constantly attacking the BBC and pretty much anyone who disagrees with them. 🤣

Sure a panel might all share the same view, but that's not the norm and happens way way less than BBC. It's not how it always happens. Looks like the leftie dropped out as the panel are usually 3.
Not sure you understand what free speech is. They're not saying Carol shouldn't be allowed to speak, they're giving their opinion on her opinion.
 
A monologue from an a judgemental idiot whining about things like "collapse of the family" and "children born out of wedlock". The word "woke" is the first word in the title.

You don't have to apologize. It's funny though that the clip you chose has a picture of Justin Welby on it insofar as what you described GB News doing is pretty much what all of organised religion has been doing for hundreds of years, ie: Some judgemental bloke droning-on!! :ROFLMAO: Of course, it's no coincidence that the decline of organised religion in the West conincides with a rise in people watching people like Russell Brand on Youtube! (Or indeed, GB News!). Good news is though ... there is an off switch! Amen!

It's also worth noting that some of the financial backers of GB News are 'Christians' ... you know, like proper Christians ... the judgemental type! Praise The Lord and pass the ammunition.
 
Sure a panel might all share the same view, but that's not the norm and happens way way less than BBC. It's not how it always happens. Looks like the leftie dropped out as the panel are usually 3.
Not sure you understand what free speech is. They're not saying Carol shouldn't be allowed to speak, they're giving their opinion on her opinion.
You first said it doesn't happen, then when I quickly find an example to show that it does, you change to "a panel might all share the same view, but that's not the norm". The goalposts keep changing.

I understand what free speech is. But -- as per the title -- Lizzie Cundy said Carol Vorderman 'has broken every rule' and 'should have the book thrown at her'. But when others say GB News has broken Ofcom rules and therefore they should have the book thrown at them, GB News don't like that! :D

I personally think it was wrong for Newsnight to only have people who agreed with each other about getting rid of GB News. There should have been someone there to put forward a pro GB News point of view. The BBC did try, though. Julia Hartley Brewer confirmed on Twitter that they asked her a few times if she would appear in that episode but she refused as it was too late for her.

The BBC itself addressed the criticism in their latest episode of Newswatch. The editor confirmed they contacted several people to appear but they all said no. If you go here, it's from the timestamp 2:35 onwards:

The host challenges the Newswatch editor pretty robustly here. I doubt you'd see the same accountability from GB News, they'd just witch about how awful the BBC is with no one there to offer any alternative viewpoint.
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You don't have to apologize. It's funny though that the clip you chose has a picture of Justin Welby on it insofar as what you described GB News doing is pretty much what all of organised religion has been doing for hundreds of years, ie: Some judgemental bloke droning-on!! :ROFLMAO: Of course, it's no coincidence that the decline of organised religion in the West conincides with a rise in people watching people like Russell Brand on Youtube! (Or indeed, GB News!). Good news is though ... there is an off switch! Amen!

It's also worth noting that some of the financial backers of GB News are 'Christians' ... you know, like proper Christians ... the judgemental type! Praise The Lord and pass the ammunition.
Oh yeah I certainly didn't use that clip to put forward a pro religious or pro Justin Welby point of view!

I personally think organised religion is a load of nonsense that has absolutely no place moralising to the whole population. It's a shame some GB News presenters don't share that view. :D

You raise a good point about financial backers, though. Would I be right in thinking that maybe some of those financial backers profit from fossil fuels, too, and that might be why many GB News presenters think climate change is nonsense? I mean, it wouldn't be too crazy a theory would it?! Happy to be proven wrong, though.
 
You first said it doesn't happen, then when I quickly find an example to show that it does, you change to "a panel might all share the same view, but that's not the norm". The goalposts keep changing.

I understand what free speech is. But -- as per the title -- Lizzie Cundy said Carol Vorderman 'has broken every rule' and 'should have the book thrown at her'. But when others say GB News has broken Ofcom rules and therefore they should have the book thrown at them, GB News don't like that! :D

I personally think it was wrong for Newsnight to only have people who agreed with each other about getting rid of GB News. There should have been someone there to put forward a pro GB News point of view. The BBC did try, though. Julia Hartley Brewer confirmed on Twitter that they asked her a few times if she would appear in that episode but she refused as it was too late for her.

The BBC itself addressed the criticism in their latest episode of Newswatch. The editor confirmed they contacted several people to appear but they all said no. If you go here, it's from the timestamp 2:35 onwards:

The host challenges the Newswatch editor pretty robustly here. I doubt you'd see the same accountability from GB News, they'd just witch about how awful the BBC is with no one there to offer any alternative viewpoint.
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Oh yeah I certainly didn't use that clip to put forward a pro religious or pro Justin Welby point of view!

I personally think organised religion is a load of nonsense that has absolutely no place moralising to the whole population. It's a shame some GB News presenters don't share that view. :D

You raise a good point about financial backers, though. Would I be right in thinking that maybe some of those financial backers profit from fossil fuels, too, and that might be why many GB News presenters think climate change is nonsense? I mean, it wouldn't be too crazy a theory would it?! Happy to be proven wrong, though.
You can talk about goalposts changing with your 'they only ever agree on gb news and never have any balance'. I've watched for many hours and never seen that happen, cherry picking if it has happened hardly proves your point that they only ever agree with each other on gb news.
I'm not suprised if the bbc only asked people that have to get up at 4am for their breakfast show that none of them could appear at night!
They're talking about Carole voderman breaking bbc impartiality rules, not free speech. Big difference.
 
You raise a good point about financial backers, though. Would I be right in thinking that maybe some of those financial backers profit from fossil fuels, too, and that might be why many GB News presenters think climate change is nonsense? I mean, it wouldn't be too crazy a theory would it?!

I know the position of hardened evangelical Christian's is, 'God gave us this planet to do with as we wish', ie: Trash it. So maybe.
 
You can talk about goalposts changing with your 'they only ever agree on gb news and never have any balance'. I've watched for many hours and never seen that happen, cherry picking if it has happened hardly proves your point that they only ever agree with each other on gb news.
I'm not suprised if the bbc only asked people that have to get up at 4am for their breakfast show that none of them could appear at night!
They're talking about Carole voderman breaking bbc impartiality rules, not free speech. Big difference.
Well, I haven't watched every GB News episode, but I've seen it happen enough to comment on it and even provided an example from recent days. Well, two, given I also talked about the example where two sitting Tory MPs interviewed Jeremy Hunt.

The BBC doesn't employ any MPs as presenters. But GB News has Conservative Party deputy chairman Lee Anderson, former Cabinet minister Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg, and Esther McVey and Philip Davies. It can't be described as impartial in any way.

If they rebranded as something like Tory Talk, I'd leave it alone. At least it would then have an accurate name.
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Known as Deacon Poo in our house.
Heh. He's contemptible.
 
Tbf, Labour MP Barry Gardiner is often on with Lee arguing the toss. It's not as if Lee is interviewing Jim Davidson each week.

Who sits in the corner like a good little lefty. (Not even joking. The token lefty has to sit in the corner underneath a chalkboard with “Left in the Corner” written on it)


You raise a good point about financial backers, though. Would I be right in thinking that maybe some of those financial backers profit from fossil fuels, too, and that might be why many GB News presenters think climate change is nonsense? I mean, it wouldn't be too crazy a theory would it?! Happy to be proven wrong, though.

One such backer was accused (though nothing was ever proven) of being a Russian spy. Which is why you sometimes see it called ‘KGB News’ on social media.
 
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