Emily Atack

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emeraldopal said:
If you're drunk enough to be unable to form memories then you're automatically too drunk to consent to sex, so Q.E.D. if you can't remember saying yes it was rape.
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Just to play devils advocate. If the male asks and you say yes but then you don’t remember, where does that leave things? How is the male meant to know you won’t remember later? I am not talking about situations where you’re staggering , slurring etc. and maybe the two go hand in hand and this made up scenario wouldn’t exist. But I just wonder. I know for court, you would need to prove the criminal mindset for the accused.
 
Yes i think you're right in that the situation wouldn't occur, if you're at the point of drunkenness where you won't remember later that you said yes, you're too drunk to consent
 
This is a summary on the Cps website: rape is when a person uses their penis without consent to penetrate the vagina, mouth, or anus of another person. Legally, a person without a penis cannot commit rape, but a female may be guilty of rape if they assist a male perpetrator in an attack.
 
I love women, love my female friends and have always championed the rights to women.

I have no axe to grind with Emily Atack, however, apart from her acting and her stand up comedy shows, her USP has been the grief she has received for being ' sexy' in life and in her acting roles.

Now here's the thing, I personally find aspects of her current crusade regarding consent very troubling and quite alarming if I am totally honest. Before she proceeds any further, I would suggest she educates herself on the laws of consent.

Rape is abhorrent but so is accusing an innocent party after a mutual drunken encounter, when one party suggests they can't remember. I know this will raise the heckles of many but it's not a cut and dried scenario. Just my tuppence worth and I really mean no offence.
 
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Scarlett O' Hara said:
I love women, love my female friends and have always championed the rights to women.

I have no axe to grind with Emily Atack, however, apart from her acting and her stand up comedy shows, her USP has been the grief she has received for being ' sexy' in life and in her acting roles.

Now here's the thing, I personally find aspects of her current crusade regarding consent very troubling and quite alarming if I am totally honest. Before she proceeds any further, I would suggest she educates herself on the laws of consent.

Rape is abhorrent but so is accusing an innocent party after a mutual drunken encounter, when one party suggests they can't remember. I know this will raise the heckles of many but it's not a cut and dried scenario. Just my tuppence worth.
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i can’t bear her but i’ll stand up for her on this one thing in that she’s being misquoted on what she actually said from reading that article.

she’s promoting affirmative consent on both sides, meaning that both parties confirm that they want it to go ahead before it does. she also only says that she’s uncomfortable when she thinks back on some past encounters of her own, which is fair enough (i think sadly a lot of people can probably relate to that), and that it’s a difficult conversation to have with yourself. i don’t see how any of that is alarming unless i’ve missed something else she’s said (happy to be corrected as i don’t massively keep up with her and haven’t listened to the podcast in question as i equally can’t bear jamie laing 🤣)
 
LaBlonde said:
i can’t bear her but i’ll stand up for her on this one thing in that she’s being misquoted on what she actually said. she’s promoting affirmative consent on both sides, meaning that both parties confirm that they want it to go ahead before it does. she also only says that she’s uncomfortable when she thinks back on some past encounters of her own, which is fair enough (i think sadly a lot of people can probably relate to that), and that it’s a difficult conversation to have with yourself. i don’t see how any of that is alarming unless i’ve missed something else she’s said (happy to be corrected as i don’t massively keep up with her 🤣)
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@LaBlonde Thanks for clarifying that for me. I clearly have taken her words out of context.
 
Phil Anne Throw Pee said:
As rape can technically only be carried out by a man with a penis, the answer is no. But you knew that I guess.
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Ah you're right, I had forgotten that. A woman could technically sexually assault (not rape) a man if he was virtually comatose drunk and she wasn't though? Sorry if it sounds like I'm being difficult I was just trying to understand why the discussion was all in one direction. I do realise SA perpetrators are much more likely to be men than women though.
 
I think the whole campaign is trying to have a wider conversation about consent without wanting to slap RAPE over every uncomfortable encounter. And I think that’s a helpful way to approach things if we’re going to make things better.

She does say in the interview that she understands it can be challenging for men to look back on their behaviour and I think that’s fair.

The interview is actually quite balanced and nuanced, for once,
 
Whilst I agree with her overall point, she hasn't helped herself in the past where she's been happy to glamorise going out and getting hammered and shagging randomers.
 

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