ElphabaOrionDoherty #15 Lost his bag, got no vag, not bothered to tuck, constantly covered in muck

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To be fair, you can tell Elphaba is extremely naive when it comes to guys and friendships. People can be shading her to her face and she won't realise at all

I do feel a bit sad when it's obvious that the new friends she picked up don't have her best interest in mind or want her for clout. She clearly needs some sort of guidance to at least becoming a functioning human

At the same time, it doesn't take away from her narcissistic tendencies and the lies
 
Merpedy said:
To be fair, you can tell Elphaba is extremely naive when it comes to guys and friendships. People can be shading her to her face and she won't realise at all

I do feel a bit sad when it's obvious that the new friends she picked up don't have her best interest in mind or want her for clout. She clearly needs some sort of guidance to at least becoming a functioning human

At the same time, it doesn't take away from her narcissistic tendencies and the lies
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This is what I'm trying to say. It's obvious there's something going on. But they still need to held accountable.
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My2pWorth said:
Why does everything have to have a label or excuse nowadays. He is just a horrible lying trampy bastard.
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Not disputing that. But the reason we have labels "these days" is to stop parents locking their mentally disabled children in cupboards or worse and so they don't get punished for things out of their control.
 
Missyboo25 said:
I'm assuming you're a doctor of some kind yes?
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are you? Lmao

It’s quite clear he has capacity, he knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s not got “severe learning disabilities” in your words - he’s just incredibly thick at best, his long Insta story rants have got bad spelling and grammar but otherwise there’s FA wrong with him.

On the MH side - clearly he’s fucked up from his psycho mum and poor upbringing, which explains his attention seeking behaviour (exacerbated by tiktok/social media “fame”) but whether he has any form of mental health condition is between him and a psychiatrist
 
Missyboo25 said:
Ahh yes because every person with a learning disability is the same.

I'm assuming you're a doctor of some kind yes?

I am not defending them in the slightest. I fully believe they need to be held accountable for all the stuff they've said and done. No doubts about that. But there is 100% something wrong with them mentally. People with mental health issues still need to be held accountable, they aren't exempt. To behave this way isn't normal at all. And I don't mean them claiming to be trans. If they are they are, but the shouldn't make a mockery of it as they are currently doing. They need an intervention and taking off social media.
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Where did I even insinuate, nevermind say that every person with a learning disability is the same? As said, ive worked in that area, im very aware how different each individual is. However, they do have similar traits and aren't aware of their behaviours because its a disability, not a choice. Elphaba is aware and CHOOSES how she behaves. She wants to have some kind of disability/difficulty so that she can use that for her gain and sympathy. She switches her "difficulties" on and off when it suits her. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
 
Missyboo25 said:
This is what I'm trying to say. It's obvious there's something going on. But they still need to held accountable.
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Not disputing that. But the reason we have labels "these days" is to stop parents locking their mentally disabled children in cupboards or worse and so they don't get punished for things out of their control.
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Honestly no one here agrees with you, elf bar doesn’t need excuses of having learning difficulties when there’s absolutely no proof of that. Just a scamming lying narcissist who can’t look outside themselves and is thick as duck. You defending them, whether you believe you are or not, is not helpful. It’s just giving them more ammo to get away with being the disgusting person they are
 
gimm3more said:
are you? Lmao

It’s quite clear he has capacity, he knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s not got “severe learning disabilities” in your words - he’s just incredibly thick at best, his long Insta story rants have got bad spelling and grammar but otherwise there’s FA wrong with him.

On the MH side - clearly he’s fucked up from his psycho mum and poor upbringing, which explains his attention seeking behaviour (exacerbated by tiktok/social media “fame”) but whether he has any form of mental health condition is between him and a psychiatrist
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Sorry but the beginning of your post really made me giggle, but you 100% have got a point and they know exactly the consequences of their actions, it seems so calculated
didnt want to trigger anything / anyone with pronouns so thought it was best to stick in the middle <33
 
WheelsUpIn30 said:
Honestly no one here agrees with you, elf bar doesn’t need excuses of having learning difficulties when there’s absolutely no proof of that. Just a scamming lying narcissist who can’t look outside themselves and is thick as duck. You defending them, whether you believe you are or not, is not helpful. It’s just giving them more ammo to get away with being the disgusting person they are
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I agree with them 🤣
 
Missyboo25 said:
This is what I'm trying to say. It's obvious there's something going on. But they still need to held accountable.
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Not disputing that. But the reason we have labels "these days" is to stop parents locking their mentally disabled children in cupboards or worse and so they don't get punished for things out of their control.
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I can appreciate you attempting to rationalise what is going on with this person. They have had me scratching my head too and at times I have struggled with my conscience wondering if they are mentally impaired (beyond just being a twit).
I’m a mum of a 19 yr old. I want to see the best in young people. But this person makes it *extremely* difficult after you have watched them long enough.

Some people in this thread seem to get very protective of their conclusions. That’s fine. But I for one appreciated your contribution.
 
gimm3more said:
are you? Lmao

It’s quite clear he has capacity, he knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s not got “severe learning disabilities” in your words - he’s just incredibly thick at best, his long Insta story rants have got bad spelling and grammar but otherwise there’s FA wrong with him.

On the MH side - clearly he’s fucked up from his psycho mum and poor upbringing, which explains his attention seeking behaviour (exacerbated by tiktok/social media “fame”) but whether he has any form of mental health condition is between him and a psychiatrist
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I might be. I might not.
Perhaps severe learning difficulties wasn’t the best turn of phrase. But I whole heartedly believe they are on the spectrum, ignoring their+terrible behaviour, they tick a lot of boxes.

secondly I thought I’d look at it from a different perspective and it might end up in debate or a discussion, instead it’s just people acting like they know them personally and not from 30 second videos on TikTok. Tbh I forgot I’m on tattle, one way is the only way.
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meg_snarkle said:
I can appreciate you attempting to rationalise what is going on with this person. They have had me scratching my head too and at times I have struggled with my conscience wondering if they are mentally impaired (beyond just being a twit).
I’m a mum of a 19 yr old. I want to see the best in young people. But this person makes it *extremely* difficult after you have watched them long enough.

Some people in this thread seem to get very protective of their conclusions. That’s fine. But I for one appreciated your contribution.
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Thank youx
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Notapennyformythoughts said:
Where did I even insinuate, nevermind say that every person with a learning disability is the same? As said, ive worked in that area, im very aware how different each individual is. However, they do have similar traits and aren't aware of their behaviours because its a disability, not a choice. Elphaba is aware and CHOOSES how she behaves. She wants to have some kind of disability/difficulty so that she can use that for her gain and sympathy. She switches her "difficulties" on and off when it suits her. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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I’m not disputing that they are a liar at all. And I do think they need to be held to account for their terrible actions and behaviour.
But I’ll put my hands up and say severe learning disability wasn’t the right phrase to use.
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WheelsUpIn30 said:
Honestly no one here agrees with you, elf bar doesn’t need excuses of having learning difficulties when there’s absolutely no proof of that. Just a scamming lying narcissist who can’t look outside themselves and is thick as duck. You defending them, whether you believe you are or not, is not helpful. It’s just giving them more ammo to get away with being the disgusting person they are
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See, the thing is, I don’t really care if you agree or not, people are allowed different opinions. Not everything is black and white, or always as it seems from a video online, I’d say their lives mostly prove they’ve got issues that go beyond trying to scam money.
 
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Missyboo25 said:
I might be. I might not.
Perhaps severe learning difficulties wasn’t the best turn of phrase. But I whole heartedly believe they are on the spectrum, ignoring their+terrible behaviour, they tick a lot of boxes.

secondly I thought I’d look at it from a different perspective and it might end up in debate or a discussion, instead it’s just people acting like they know them personally and not from 30 second videos on TikTok. Tbh I forgot I’m on tattle, one way is the only way.
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Sorry couldn't help it.

I personally feel like Elph has had a crappy upbringing and is just a tit person. I saw a video where they were wondering if they could get free wigs on the NHS because people with cancer can, granted it's an old video it just shows the sense of entitlement they have. They know they get used for clout by 'friends', but they are benefitting from it to, the fall out makes content and gives them somewhere to stay. Your opinion is appreciated just as everyone else's is. 😊
 
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