Ellidy Pullin

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I don't know much about Ellidy beyond the sperm retrieval (which I find to be really fucked up).I find its odd that I've heard it spoken about on podcasts as being a lovely gesture, rather than it being inappropriate and creepy (IMO).

Hopefully she's able to raise Minnie to be her own person, not to be the mirror or heavenforbid reincarnation of dead dad.
 
BumbleBeeMarmalade said:
I don't know much about Ellidy beyond the sperm retrieval (which I find to be really fucked up).I find its odd that I've heard it spoken about on podcasts as being a lovely gesture, rather than it being inappropriate and creepy (IMO).

Hopefully she's able to raise Minnie to be her own person, not to be the mirror or heavenforbid reincarnation of dead dad.
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I respectfully disagree here, they were trying for a baby for a while and were in the process of starting IVF so babies were defo on the cards when he passed away, they had all of his families consent too. I probably would have a different opinion if they hadn’t been ttc/talked about children
 
I don't find it messed up either. I don't know how I'd react if I lost the person I planned to be with forever. His parents had to sign off on the retrieval too.

I think having Minnie is a beautiful thing really, and I guess we do only see small parts of thier life, but it does just seem so chaotic and disorganised.

I agree with the poster above who said they can respect her parenting style is very very different to mine. If I could travel for months I probably would too. But from the outside it does look like Minnie is a distraction from her grief and I really hope that isn't the case forever.
 
I understand why some people disagree, just for me it doesn't sit right. I'm curious as to what starting IVF process means, as this can be as simple as making your first appointment, getting fertility tests done, is this considered starting? You sign consent forms asking what happens to any embryos created in the case of one of your (or both) death. I still wouldn't feel comfortable with this, but at least there's already embryos created. The idea of extracting sperm from a dead man who can't consent doesn't sit right with me, even if they were apparently trying for a baby when he was alive. I'm shocked it's even legal.
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Even if his parents okayed it, I don't think its ethically right. But that's just me...
 
It all feels like she saw her chance to make money off having his child after he died so did it. She doesn’t act like a parent. The kid is taken to bleeping festivals for Christ sakes. Good parent who clearly loves their child. I think she is a complete nutjob who saw $$ and went for it
 
BumbleBeeMarmalade said:
I understand why some people disagree, just for me it doesn't sit right. I'm curious as to what starting IVF process means, as this can be as simple as making your first appointment, getting fertility tests done, is this considered starting? You sign consent forms asking what happens to any embryos created in the case of one of your (or both) death. I still wouldn't feel comfortable with this, but at least there's already embryos created. The idea of extracting sperm from a dead man who can't consent doesn't sit right with me, even if they were apparently trying for a baby when he was alive. I'm shocked it's even legal.
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Even if his parents okayed it, I don't think its ethically right. But that's just me...
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I agree with you- this whole thing made me uncomfortable.
From memory, Ellidy said that they were going to explore the IVF path when Chumpy passed away- they certainly hadn't started it, otherwise there would be no need to retrieve the sperm.
The fact that only one doctor agreed to retrieve the sperm shows how murky the procedure was.
 
Heyguysswipeup said:
I respectfully disagree here, they were trying for a baby for a while and were in the process of starting IVF so babies were defo on the cards when he passed away, they had all of his families consent too. I probably would have a different opinion if they hadn’t been ttc/talked about children
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I just read her Marie Claire article, in which she says they were trying to conceive for 8 months. This isn't considered 'a while' for someone of her age. They hadn't started IVF.
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Again I'm shocked at how this procedure was legal. I don't think she has an ulterior motive to lie about them wanting a baby and trying to conceive, but how does that hold up legally? So does this mean if anyone else's partner dies and the female partner comes forward and asks to retrieve their sperm cos she says they were trying for a baby and bought a couple of Bonds baby singlets, the dead person's parents just have to sign a form and then the deceased's baby could be in the world in 9 months? What are the rules for this?
 
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BumbleBeeMarmalade said:
I just read her Marie Claire article, in which she says they were trying to conceive for 8 months. This isn't considered 'a while' for someone of her age. They hadn't started IVF.
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Again I'm shocked at how this procedure was legal. I don't think she has an ulterior motive to lie about them wanting a baby and trying to conceive, but how does that hold up legally? So does this mean if anyone else's partner dies and the female partner comes forward and asks to retrieve their sperm cos she says they were trying for a baby and bought a couple of Bonds baby singlets, the dead person's parents just have to sign a form and then the deceased's baby could be in the world in 9 months? What are the rules for this?
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It’s an ethically murky scenario isn’t it. I guess unless it’s in a persons will expressly consenting to sperm retrieval in the event of their untimely death.. it does feel off. I understand the sentiment of it all, but yeah would you want your partner to have your child after you’ve passed? It’s not the same as having and raising a child together. He now has no input into Minnie’s raising.. it’s tricky.
 
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Wow. You're really going to go there with Ellidy? She is a wonderful Mum and had a beautiful and strong relationship with Chumpy. Who are we to judge on how she's to mother her child? We see a brief snippet of her day. What about the countless hours she likely cries and mourns the future she isn't going to have with the father of her child? As for the sperm retrieval - it's legal and I, for one, think it's bloody marvellous!
 
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Wow. You're really going to go there with Ellidy? She is a wonderful Mum and had a beautiful and strong relationship with Chumpy. Who are we to judge on how she's to mother her child? We see a brief snippet of her day. What about the countless hours she likely cries and mourns the future she isn't going to have with the father of her child? As for the sperm retrieval - it's legal and I, for one, think it's bloody marvellous!
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I'm not doubting she's grieving. I'm saying I find the decision for a partner and parents to retrieve a dead man's sperm to not be romantic or marvellous, I think it's wrong. And as for the "mourns the future she isn't going to have with the father of her child" - well that's part of my issue with the decision. She chose to do so, knowing he wouldn't be around (and not because he'd be an absent father, but because he was dead before she retrieved the sperm).
 
Capt.Quint said:
Wow. You're really going to go there with Ellidy? She is a wonderful Mum and had a beautiful and strong relationship with Chumpy. Who are we to judge on how she's to mother her child? We see a brief snippet of her day. What about the countless hours she likely cries and mourns the future she isn't going to have with the father of her child? As for the sperm retrieval - it's legal and I, for one, think it's bloody marvellous!
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And of her child being on a scooter in Bali, on the internet naked, and put to sleep on concrete under a table…? 🫡
 
I don’t disagree that many of Ellidy’s parenting choices are dangerous & even outlandish at times, but I followed her & Chumpy before the tragedy, it’s a sad situation regardless of your views on Ellidy.
I do genuinely like her and enjoy most of her content, but I too do worry about the dynamics of how Minnie is being raised.
How do they bond together when they are always on the go, with other people.
Ellidy & Minnie are so lucky they have the Fishers, plus many other close friends, it just seems like perpetual chaos.

I haven’t lost a partner so I don’t feel right to judge her choice to become a mum after his passing, but Minnie is the spitting image of Chump, I bet it’s hard for his parents, his Mum battling cancer herself, would be hard looking at the baby seeing their son in her 🥲
 
Capt.Quint said:
Wow. You're really going to go there with Ellidy? She is a wonderful Mum and had a beautiful and strong relationship with Chumpy. Who are we to judge on how she's to mother her child? We see a brief snippet of her day. What about the countless hours she likely cries and mourns the future she isn't going to have with the father of her child? As for the sperm retrieval - it's legal and I, for one, think it's bloody marvellous!
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Sure looks like she’s mourning..🙃🙃🙃
 
Capt.Quint said:
Wow. You're really going to go there with Ellidy? She is a wonderful Mum and had a beautiful and strong relationship with Chumpy. Who are we to judge on how she's to mother her child? We see a brief snippet of her day. What about the countless hours she likely cries and mourns the future she isn't going to have with the father of her child? As for the sperm retrieval - it's legal and I, for one, think it's bloody marvellous!
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In all of my time here your post has the be the first I’ve seen attract a warning. Don’t be a martyr, the opinions here are purely that. Just as yours doesn’t change anyone’s opinion on her alternative (see questionable) parenting.
 
BumbleBeeMarmalade said:
I just read her Marie Claire article, in which she says they were trying to conceive for 8 months. This isn't considered 'a while' for someone of her age. They hadn't started IVF.
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Again I'm shocked at how this procedure was legal. I don't think she has an ulterior motive to lie about them wanting a baby and trying to conceive, but how does that hold up legally? So does this mean if anyone else's partner dies and the female partner comes forward and asks to retrieve their sperm cos she says they were trying for a baby and bought a couple of Bonds baby singlets, the dead person's parents just have to sign a form and then the deceased's baby could be in the world in 9 months? What are the rules for this?
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My bad, I hadn’t read that article and only went by what she said in her podcast which made it seem like they were more in depth with the fertility treatment process… I certainly know 8 months isn’t long seeing as I had to through recurrent miscarriages and see a fertiiity specialist before finally being pregnant now 😊
 
Capt.Quint said:
What about the countless hours she likely cries and mourns the future she isn't going to have with the father of her child?
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No one is saying she's not grieving, or missing Chumpy.

It just seems a bit like Minnie is a bit of a band-aid for that grief. As is her inability to be alone.

Its obvious that Minnie is loved by Ellidy, and others. But I don't agree with all of her parenting choices - especially things that are unsafe. And I wonder how her current lifestyle goes once Minnie is older and at school. Or when the Fishers have their own children. Ellidy can't travel with them indefinitely....
 
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