Eleanor Florence Lecocq #8 The Vlogmas M'Elletdown

Will this thread blow up before Vlogmas even begins?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 27.4%
  • No

    Votes: 8 11.0%
  • Hell yes

    Votes: 45 61.6%

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Commenting on the screenshot posted on the last page of the last thread re: Elle defending her pronunciation of “Kerastase” by saying that French is her “first language”. If French really was her first l
My last name is Polish and is conjugated (feminine) when I speak or write in Polish but people would look at me like I had a third eye if I did that in English. Elle really just doesn’t get it.
Interesting. My last name is always mispronounced. When I am on the phone with customer service, I pronounce it the American way (it’s actually, coincidentally, also a British last lame, though it’s not so common at all). In my personal and profesional life, I pronounce it correctly, because otherwise I feel like I am pretending to be something I am not. Many people don’t pick up on it though, and it’s rather frustrating. I am wondering if I should just Americanize my name then? I always thought that would be silly because I wasn’t born in the US, never spoke English at home, etc., but would love to hear other people’s thoughts on this. It’s not that it’s difficult to pronounce, it’s just that the pronunciation doesn’t match the spelling.
 
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I'm starting to wonder how awesome it would be if she fever dreamed him in the wake of the Joe breakup. It would be like watching the Sixth Sense to see those videos again.

I see dumped people. They only see what they want to see. They don't even know they're single . . . .


I think he dumped her the only way he could have and had it stick. That's on her and her selfishness preventing her from understanding anyone's feelings but her own. It was harsh and sudden but its not like anything else would have worked.
Exactly. She stated in GIRLBOSS BREAKUP there was no chance of reconciliation. Nothing else would have went through her thick head. 😂


Interesting. My last name is always mispronounced. When I am on the phone with customer service, I pronounce it the American way (it’s actually, coincidentally, also a British last lame, though it’s not so common at all). In my personal and profesional life, I pronounce it correctly, because otherwise I feel like I am pretending to be something I am not. Many people don’t pick up on it though, and it’s rather frustrating. I am wondering if I should just Americanize my name then? I always thought that would be silly because I wasn’t born in the US, never spoke English at home, etc., but would love to hear other people’s thoughts on this.
Personally I wouldn’t. My fiancé’s last name is always mispronounced (his family name is actually a corrupted American version) but eventually people get it.

If it helps, there are people who can’t understand my first name, which I don’t even think is that complicated. I plan to take his last name so when people look at my full name they pause in utter confusion. 😂😈
 
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Exactly. She stated in GIRLBOSS BREAKUP there was no chance of reconciliation. Nothing else would have went through her thick head. 😂
The end of Girlboss Breakup is understandably amazing. There's a part where she says:

"I don't think anything's going to change on his side. He's been pretty (big swallow) . . . firm . . . about it"

You can tell by the way she swallows hard, averts her eyes and almost chokes out the word 'firm' that Girlboss is NOT used to anyone being firm with her when telling her she can't have something she wants. And she doesn't like it one bit.

To me, its the most 'Elle' moment in any of her videos. She's a scorned little girl inside. She is completely discombobulated because she didn't get what she wanted and someone refuses to give it to her. It's the moment where everything that came after; running to her mom to be indulged over and over, rushing into relationships with the next available man, throwing her whole life away for the chance of getting married as quickly as possible, suddenly makes complete sense.
 
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Interesting. My last name is always mispronounced. When I am on the phone with customer service, I pronounce it the American way (it’s actually, coincidentally, also a British last lame, though it’s not so common at all). In my personal and profesional life, I pronounce it correctly, because otherwise I feel like I am pretending to be something I am not. Many people don’t pick up on it though, and it’s rather frustrating. I am wondering if I should just Americanize my name then? I always thought that would be silly because I wasn’t born in the US, never spoke English at home, etc., but would love to hear other people’s thoughts on this. It’s not that it’s difficult to pronounce, it’s just that the pronunciation doesn’t match the spelling.

I live in a country i didn't grow up in. When introducing myself, I still pronounce my name and surname the way you'd pronounce it in my mother tongue.

I suppose if you were American but your ancestors came e.g. from Spain 100 years ago, your surname was Cruz, but you also didn't speak Spanish, it would be silly to pronounce the surname in Spanish.
 
I live in a country i didn't grow up in. When introducing myself, I still pronounce my name and surname the way you'd pronounce it in my mother tongue.

I suppose if you were American but your ancestors came e.g. from Spain 100 years ago, your surname was Cruz, but you also didn't speak Spanish, it would be silly to pronounce the surname in Spanish.

I think pronouncing your name true to its origin is totally appropriate, droning on for half of an 8 minute video in an unnecessary accent is just annoying. :LOL: Has she ever mentioned spending time in or even visiting France or Belgium since moving to Canada as a child?
 
I think pronouncing your name true to its origin is totally appropriate, droning on for half of an 8 minute video in an unnecessary accent is just annoying. :LOL: Has she ever mentioned spending time in or even visiting France or Belgium since moving to Canada as a child?

Of course, I agree her FrEnCh PrOnOuNcIaTiOnS are a joke. I wonder why she doesn't eat croissants for breakfast, lunch, dinner. That would pay a proper homage to her ancestry.
 
No but she's bought a ton of French handbags . . . . in Hawaii. Doesn't that count as being French?
Exactly. Elle's "French roots" are weak, at best. She's never mentioned travelling to any of the places she has "heritage" (Belgium, Italy, France, New York) except for her time after high school as an "analyst" at a bank in Belgium, which she doesn't mention on her resume.

She even mentioned she would love to see the Almalfi Coast one day. Like she's waiting for someone to whisk her off on a five-star vacation. The places she has been are so random, like who lives in the UK, has tons of money, and doesn't make it over to Paris or Copenhagen for a quick weekend trip? Yet she's been to Tahiti twice already.

She has literally been at her mother's side for every major trip of her life. Don't know many 30-somethings who can claim that!
 
Elle’s pronunciations are ridiculous and everyone knows it. Her native tongue isn’t French, just like how someone born to Spanish speaking parents in the U.S. doesn’t have Spanish as their native language even if their family spoke it at home.

A lot of her pronunciations are also clearly made up by Eleanor. “Paul-let” is not French, Belgian, or Italian. It’s also not English. Elle alternates between saying it properly and wrongly because she’s insane, not because of her “Europeanness.”

Her French connection is also tenuous at best given Ginette isn’t even French, but Italian/Belgian, and Elle was born and raised in North America. It’s honestly pathetic that she clings so hard to her “Frenchness” because it sounds fashionable/trendy, even though she’s never even met her French dad and I don’t recall her ever visiting France. She doesn’t know a thing about French culture and using that every time as an excuse when people call her out is just strange.
 
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I re-watched the famous girlboss breakup over lunch today. It really is incredible. As you know this girlboss vlog covers several days, but here's day 1. Sort of an annotated viewer's guide since Elle's short on content these days.

Day 1 - Friday
We begin with Elle getting ready. She's excited because her mom is getting back in town from Hawaii. She will be staying with Elle for the weekend and then moving into her new Vancouver place on Monday. Elle doesn't know it yet, but Joe certainly has marked Ginette's return on his calendar!

Some idle chatter about microblading. Of note, she pronounces palette like a normal person here.

Mom arrives. Complains about the airline seats being too small. Elle has her Ferragamo pumps ready. Elle has some meeting which runs late. I guess we can assume the meeting is pearl biz or social media related since its Friday and she took the day off from work.

Time to meet mom so she can pick up the check on some Dim Sum! Elle orders a Shirley Temple to remind her of lunches out with her mom where she did the same. She acts like a child a lot around Joe, but wow, when she’s around her mom, she's really 10 years old again. Elle mentions that since she and her mom had Dim Sum in Hong Kong, their standards are very high and only this place in Vancouver meets their stringent requirements...

Back home at the apartment. Mama G is resting a little in the recliner while Elle opens a box that arrived from Nordstrom. Signature dusty blue cashmere cardigan. ($299). Joe arrives home while she's opening it looking pretty beat after a long week at work. He has no interest in the dog, soon to not be mother-in-law, and shopping-drunk girlfriend that are there to greet him.

Now Elle has moved on to opening the stuff that she had shipped to Hawaii and made her mother drag back to her on the flight. She shows off a handbag insert from amazon ($20), Four Natori Feather Bras ($272), Pissaro Nights Dress ($220), and Two pairs of Eberjey Pajamas ($240).

Elle is busy making baked potatoes and drinking some wine. Joe is seasoning some steaks for everyone. We get some mangled French as Elle shows off her log of garlic butter that she made.

Now it’s after dinner and Elle is bumming sips of champagne from Joe's glass. They're watching Lost in Space and Joe is completely done with her camera in his face and the baby voice questions. Sarcastic answers and smug grins because he knows he's not going to have to do this shit for much longer and it feels so good. Joe asks for his champagne back and Elle balks at that suggestion, saying she wants more sips. When he finally gets it back he gives the camera a look as if to say 'you won't have me to mooch off any more.'

Shopping total for the day: $1051
Running total for the Vlog: $1051
 
I re-watched the famous girlboss breakup over lunch today. It really is incredible. As you know this girlboss vlog covers several days, but here's day 1. Sort of an annotated viewer's guide since Elle's short on content these days.

Day 1 - Friday
We begin with Elle getting ready. She's excited because her mom is getting back in town from Hawaii. She will be staying with Elle for the weekend and then moving into her new Vancouver place on Monday. Elle doesn't know it yet, but Joe certainly has marked Ginette's return on his calendar!

Some idle chatter about microblading. Of note, she pronounces palette like a normal person here.

Mom arrives. Complains about the airline seats being too small. Elle has her Ferragamo pumps ready. Elle has some meeting which runs late. I guess we can assume the meeting is pearl biz or social media related since its Friday and she took the day off from work.

Time to meet mom so she can pick up the check on some Dim Sum! Elle orders a Shirley Temple to remind her of lunches out with her mom where she did the same. She acts like a child a lot around Joe, but wow, when she’s around her mom, she's really 10 years old again. Elle mentions that since she and her mom had Dim Sum in Hong Kong, their standards are very high and only this place in Vancouver meets their stringent requirements...

Back home at the apartment. Mama G is resting a little in the recliner while Elle opens a box that arrived from Nordstrom. Signature dusty blue cashmere cardigan. ($299). Joe arrives home while she's opening it looking pretty beat after a long week at work. He has no interest in the dog, soon to not be mother-in-law, and shopping-drunk girlfriend that are there to greet him.

Now Elle has moved on to opening the stuff that she had shipped to Hawaii and made her mother drag back to her on the flight. She shows off a handbag insert from amazon ($20), Four Natori Feather Bras ($272), Pissaro Nights Dress ($220), and Two pairs of Eberjey Pajamas ($240).

Elle is busy making baked potatoes and drinking some wine. Joe is seasoning some steaks for everyone. We get some mangled French as Elle shows off her log of garlic butter that she made.

Now it’s after dinner and Elle is bumming sips of champagne from Joe's glass. They're watching Lost in Space and Joe is completely done with her camera in his face and the baby voice questions. Sarcastic answers and smug grins because he knows he's not going to have to do this shit for much longer and it feels so good. Joe asks for his champagne back and Elle balks at that suggestion, saying she wants more sips. When he finally gets it back he gives the camera a look as if to say 'you won't have me to mooch off any more.'

Shopping total for the day: $1051
Running total for the Vlog: $1051
I remember that look he gave her when she asked for his champagne!! He looked so exasperated. Definitely already told the landlord about the lease and is now just waiting to drop the info on Smelley.
 
He definitely was real. We both know she would never pay for a spa trip to Whistler on her own...I have a feeling she's seeing someone and keeping them under the dark until they get engaged..she kept her new job a secret
Does Elle ski or snowboard at all? I don’t recall her ever going on a ski trip for some reason. A total waste given she used to live near one of the best ski resorts in the world!
 
Does Elle ski or snowboard at all? I don’t recall her ever going on a ski trip for some reason. A total waste given she used to live near one of the best ski resorts in the world!
I hope not, after seeing her try to swing a whiffle ball bat. Elle on skis would end in an emergency room. She's just not Sporty Spice.

Nothing wrong with not being sporty, but I guess she is trying to rebrand herself as a PNC sporty girl. I hope she understands you can fake hiking but not really skiing.
 
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