Eamon and Bec

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LeonorG said:
True. They knew about oestrogen and why the medication was important. Now they are changing the narrative to "we were led to believe that cancer would never return and weren't informed about the risks of getting pregnant so soon".
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Re cancer, all we know is that all is good, scans good, mets in the liver and bones reduced, no more pain, tumour markers down. She says prognosis was bad but now miraculously good in that shorter video I shared a while ago. She doesn't like sharing about it anymore. Eamon wanted to film her in the hospital and she said no. I guess influencers like to share when it's all good and they can show how heroically they "beat" cancer. Once it gets serious, there is less fun in it. We know Bec likes to be seen as a hero and a badass.

I wonder if @Saydee knows about these two. I can't imagine her being able to stomach their nonsense.
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Bec literally has the cult glaze going on now. The mad beaming smile she has on her face is creepy. She also says a lot of words but it's nothing new. It's the same old ideology. She is indoctrinated.
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Hi @LeonorG no I haven't come across this couples videos.
I take it that they are refusing treatment and heading down the alternative treatment route? :(
 
ellyjelly2 said:
The infusions could be for bone strengthening. Would she admit being on maintenance chemo? Is that a thing with her type of cancer? She has said her chemo didn’t work and that’s why it came back. It could be argued she refused tamoxifen and got pregnant less than a year after having oestrogen fed breast cancer for being the reason it came back. The thing with most if not all of these ‘healing gurus’ is the fact most have had conventional treatment at some point which has treated/cured them. They conveniently don’t mention that.
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Yes she said chemo didn't work and there is no other treatment other than alternative. She literally implied that there is no treatment for stage 4 cancer other than meditation and re-wiring your brain.
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Saydee said:
Hi @LeonorG no I haven't come across this couples videos.
I take it that they are refusing treatment and heading down the alternative treatment route? :(
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Saydee! Good to see you in this corner. I wonder if you could make some sense of this. I wanted to recommend some of their videos to you but then I don't want you to suffer through it. If you watch their podcast, you will definitely think that they have lost their minds.

They are vegan, new age, eco, bio, van lifers (I know :rolleyes:) with a very successful youtube channel called Eamon & Bec (over million subscribers) and now a podcast too. I only noticed them when she became diagnosed. They seem like good people to me albeit frustrating and with very different ideologies.

Some background on Bec's cancer. Diagnosed in 2021, her cancer was invasive ductal carcinoma, estrogen positive. It was believed to be stage 0 at first but then became stage 3 due to bad surgery margins (other reasons?). There was cancer all over the margins. All investigated lymph nodes were negative for cancer. Bec chose to have a lumpectomy. The doctor told her that as her cancer was not caused by a known gene, it did not warrant a mastectomy and the risk of recurrence was similar with lumpectomy and mastectomy. She received chemo and radiation. She had a couple of clear scans and then got pregnant. She must have stopped her post treatment hormonal drugs. She started to experience shoulder pain whilst deep into the pregnancy and a couple of months later is diagnosed with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer with tumours in the bones and liver. The baby is delivered 6 weeks early to reduce the oestrogen in Bec's body which was causing tumours to grow rapidly. She said she wants positive vibes and she doesn't want negativity from her followers and people around her. She asked people in her environment to respect that and she asked the same of her viewers. She implied she doesn't want her life to be about cancer and doesn't want to talk about it much. And now things turned crazy if they weren't already. In their "come-back" video which informed us that she is now stage 4, she also mentioned that the metastases are reduced, she no longer has pain, and her scans are good. She said she meditates for hours and can do cartwheels again. They then talked about it a bit in their podcast. The jist of it is that as the chemo (for the original cancer) didn't work (as it returned, she says), there no longer is treatment for her and they are doing alternative stuff, mainly meditation. She mentioned "infusions" too but we don't know what those are. She again said that the scans are good and tumour markers are good. They said that they believed she is healed from stage 4 cancer.
 
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Super_Berry said:
I was so excited for their podcast to return, but I had no idea it would end up like this.

At the end she talks about it she has a crystal ball she'd want to know what she could do so she'd be full in remission Bec. But last week, they were saying they didn't believe she had cancer.

She then says 10 months ago the cancer was in all her bones (ribs, pelvis etc) but her latest scan shows there's nothing new and things are healing. But then the Dr. said the scans were as good as they get and it's not possible to get better, but obviously Bec thinks she will and they both almost smirk at the fact that's what they've been told.
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And yet the oncologist probably has peer reviewed papers unlike the shouty meditation dude and the nonsense paper Bec was quoting from. Scary to know which one Bec has more faith in.
 
It’s important to note she had her ovaries removed when she had her c section delivering thus shutting down her oestrogen. I assume her reduction is largely down to her cancer no longer having a food source, however as we all sadly know it will grow again.
 
LydiaDeetzHat said:
well thats bleeping bs.. no doctor would say that as there is no guarantees
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They said ( in the older vlog ) the doctor said the chance of her cancer coming back after a mastectomy was 10% and it was more or less the same if she chose a lumpectomy ( this was her second Op. I’m assuming this is alongside her taking Tamoxifen for 5/10 years. The fact they are saying their doctor told them to go and have a baby less than a year after her initial diagnosis is bollocks. I don’t believe a word of it.
 
ellyjelly2 said:
They said ( in the older vlog ) the doctor said the chance of her cancer coming back after a mastectomy was 10% and it was more or less the same if she chose a lumpectomy ( this was her second Op. I’m assuming this is alongside her taking Tamoxifen for 5/10 years. The fact they are saying their doctor told them to go and have a baby less than a year after her initial diagnosis is bollocks. I don’t believe a word of it.
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I remember that. She said the doctor told her that the chance of recurrence after a lumpectomy was just above 10% and a chance of recurrence after a mastectomy was just below 10%.
Yes utter bollocks. They are trying to re-write history. Now they say that the vibe was that the cancer will never return and that the doctor told them to go live their lives. I guess Bec took that as stopping the Tamoxifen and immediately trying for a baby.
There is a new episode of their podcast. Probably more energies and alignment talk.
 
LeonorG said:
I remember that. She said the doctor told her that the chance of recurrence after a lumpectomy was just above 10% and a chance of recurrence after a mastectomy was just below 10%.
Yes utter bollocks. They are trying to re-write history. Now they say that the vibe was that the cancer will never return and that the doctor told them to go live their lives. I guess Bec took that as stopping the Tamoxifen and immediately trying for a baby.
There is a new episode of their podcast. Probably more energies and alignment talk.
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We have talked about in on the previous page. She basically believes everything that comes out of her medication guru’s mouth. He has done a m saying something like people who meditate lots have better blood work so could probably do transfusions to cure cancer and that they will be able to cure all illnesses in the near future.

Absolute baseless bollocks. It goes without saying it is not peer reviewed, yet Bec is lapping it up, without questioning anything.
 
KnickKnackPaddyWhack said:
We have talked about in on the previous page. She basically believes everything that comes out of her medication guru’s mouth. He has done a m saying something like people who meditate lots have better blood work so could probably do transfusions to cure cancer and that they will be able to cure all illnesses in the near future.

Absolute baseless bollocks. It goes without saying it is not peer reviewed, yet Bec is lapping it up, without questioning anything.
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Absolute madness. I don't know the details of what her charlatan guru preaches but can imagine that it's the typical bollocks. There is someone in our family (and their spouse) who believes in similar craziness. The person indoctrinated their spouse who was already borderline irrational so they weren't too hard to convince. Thankfully neither of them have cancer but they literally believe that any psychiatric disorder can be erased by re-programming your thinking. 🐦 They believe in energies, positive thinking, the power of the mind, the same crap like Bec. These ideas are always the same. Of course, they are anti-vax; their children and dog have never been vaccinated for anything. They read pseudoscience self-help books. They are the perfect prey to charlatans and cults and were part of a certain cult at some point.
 
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LeonorG said:
Absolute madness. I don't know the details of what her charlatan guru preaches but can imagine that it's the typical bollocks. There is someone in our family (and their spouse) who believes in similar craziness. The person indoctrinated their spouse who was already borderline irrational so they weren't too hard to convince. Thankfully neither of them have cancer but they literally believe that any psychiatric disorder can be erased by re-programming your thinking. 🐦 They believe in energies, positive thinking, the power of the mind, the same crap like Bec. These ideas are always the same. Of course, they are anti-vax; their children and dog have never been vaccinated for anything. They read pseudoscience self-help books. They are the perfect prey to charlatans and cults and were part of a certain cult at some point.
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Yep, similar mindset going on with B and E has also swallowed the Flavor Aid.
 
LeonorG said:
Yes she said chemo didn't work and there is no other treatment other than alternative. She literally implied that there is no treatment for stage 4 cancer other than meditation and re-wiring your brain.
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Saydee! Good to see you in this corner. I wonder if you could make some sense of this. I wanted to recommend some of their videos to you but then I don't want you to suffer through it. If you watch their podcast, you will definitely think that they have lost their minds.

They are vegan, new age, eco, bio, van lifers (I know :rolleyes:) with a very successful youtube channel called Eamon & Bec (over million subscribers) and now a podcast too. I only noticed them when she became diagnosed. They seem like good people to me albeit frustrating and with very different ideologies.

Some background on Bec's cancer. Diagnosed in 2021, her cancer was invasive ductal carcinoma, estrogen positive. It was believed to be stage 0 at first but then became stage 3 due to bad surgery margins (other reasons?). There was cancer all over the margins. All investigated lymph nodes were negative for cancer. Bec chose to have a lumpectomy. The doctor told her that as her cancer was not caused by a known gene, it did not warrant a mastectomy and the risk of recurrence was similar with lumpectomy and mastectomy. She received chemo and radiation. She had a couple of clear scans and then got pregnant. She must have stopped her post treatment hormonal drugs. She started to experience shoulder pain whilst deep into the pregnancy and a couple of months later is diagnosed with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer with tumours in the bones and liver. The baby is delivered 6 weeks early to reduce the oestrogen in Bec's body which was causing tumours to grow rapidly. She said she wants positive vibes and she doesn't want negativity from her followers and people around her. She asked people in her environment to respect that and she asked the same of her viewers. She implied she doesn't want her life to be about cancer and doesn't want to talk about it much. And now things turned crazy if they weren't already. In their "come-back" video which informed us that she is now stage 4, she also mentioned that the metastases are reduced, she no longer has pain, and her scans are good. She said she meditates for hours and can do cartwheels again. They then talked about it a bit in their podcast. The jist of it is that as the chemo (for the original cancer) didn't work (as it returned, she says), there no longer is treatment for her and they are doing alternative stuff, mainly meditation. She mentioned "infusions" too but we don't know what those are. She again said that the scans are good and tumour markers are good. They said that they believed she is healed from stage 4 cancer.
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Thanks @LeonorG
This is both shocking and saddening to read.
I have some thoughts as to what could be going on though. Will watch some videos, read some threads and come back.
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Saydee said:
Thanks @LeonorG
This is both shocking and saddening to read.
I have some thoughts as to what could be going on though. Will watch some videos, read some threads and come back.
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LeonorG said:
Absolute madness. I don't know the details of what her charlatan guru preaches but can imagine that it's the typical bollocks. There is someone in our family (and their spouse) who believes in similar craziness. The person indoctrinated their spouse who was already borderline irrational so they weren't too hard to convince. Thankfully neither of them have cancer but they literally believe that any psychiatric disorder can be erased by re-programming your thinking. 🐦 They believe in energies, positive thinking, the power of the mind, the same crap like Bec. These ideas are always the same. Of course, they are anti-vax; their children and dog have never been vaccinated for anything. They read pseudoscience self-help books. They are the perfect prey to charlatans and cults and were part of a certain cult at some point.
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LeonorG said:
Yes she said chemo didn't work and there is no other treatment other than alternative. She literally implied that there is no treatment for stage 4 cancer other than meditation and re-wiring your brain.
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Saydee! Good to see you in this corner. I wonder if you could make some sense of this. I wanted to recommend some of their videos to you but then I don't want you to suffer through it. If you watch their podcast, you will definitely think that they have lost their minds.

They are vegan, new age, eco, bio, van lifers (I know :rolleyes:) with a very successful youtube channel called Eamon & Bec (over million subscribers) and now a podcast too. I only noticed them when she became diagnosed. They seem like good people to me albeit frustrating and with very different ideologies.

Some background on Bec's cancer. Diagnosed in 2021, her cancer was invasive ductal carcinoma, estrogen positive. It was believed to be stage 0 at first but then became stage 3 due to bad surgery margins (other reasons?). There was cancer all over the margins. All investigated lymph nodes were negative for cancer. Bec chose to have a lumpectomy. The doctor told her that as her cancer was not caused by a known gene, it did not warrant a mastectomy and the risk of recurrence was similar with lumpectomy and mastectomy. She received chemo and radiation. She had a couple of clear scans and then got pregnant. She must have stopped her post treatment hormonal drugs. She started to experience shoulder pain whilst deep into the pregnancy and a couple of months later is diagnosed with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer with tumours in the bones and liver. The baby is delivered 6 weeks early to reduce the oestrogen in Bec's body which was causing tumours to grow rapidly. She said she wants positive vibes and she doesn't want negativity from her followers and people around her. She asked people in her environment to respect that and she asked the same of her viewers. She implied she doesn't want her life to be about cancer and doesn't want to talk about it much. And now things turned crazy if they weren't already. In their "come-back" video which informed us that she is now stage 4, she also mentioned that the metastases are reduced, she no longer has pain, and her scans are good. She said she meditates for hours and can do cartwheels again. They then talked about it a bit in their podcast. The jist of it is that as the chemo (for the original cancer) didn't work (as it returned, she says), there no longer is treatment for her and they are doing alternative stuff, mainly meditation. She mentioned "infusions" too but we don't know what those are. She again said that the scans are good and tumour markers are good. They said that they believed she is healed from stage 4 cancer.



Of course when my husband had exhausted all treatments I went off searching and left no stone unturned. I was pointed in the direction of a clinic in Mexico...... which I quickly realised was a scam. I later did connect with an alternative doctor based in Brussels where he looked over all my husbands medical files and imaging. He ran hundreds of blood tests on my husband using Genova diagnostics where they look at gut health, nutrition, immune function, the endocrine system, and genomics. From there, he wrote up a "personalised protocol" to hopefully help my husband. The personalised protocol was laughable! I still have it stored it my email account. It is shocking stuff. Me being me decided I would set up a facebook support group to connect with all his other patients which did very well. It attracted a few hundred stage 4 patients, but what we all quickly learnt is that the "personalised protocol" was the same for all patients. Nothing was personal to any patient.
He had obviously wrote up a 50 page plan and sells it to desperate patients. He never imagined that those patients might connect and start asking questions!
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Saydee said:
😲 @LeonorG I'm stuck down this rabbit hole
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Oh no. Can't wait to read your verdict. I did watch most of their cancer videos (eamon and bec channel) but skipped through the podcast episodes. I think they don't put 'cancer' in their timestamps on purpose. They know many are only interested in her cancer and would not watch the rest.
 
This new episode is wild. Eamon seems to think that they should have another child because they have frozen embryos. He admits doctors will advise against it, but doesn't believe cancer can live in Becs anymore even with an estrogen spike with pregnancy.

Interesting there's actually more comments on this video about their attitude to cancer and how it feels like a slap in the face to people who have had cancer.
 
Super_Berry said:
This new episode is wild. Eamon seems to think that they should have another child because they have frozen embryos. He admits doctors will advise against it, but doesn't believe cancer can live in Becs anymore even with an estrogen spike with pregnancy.

Interesting there's actually more comments on this video about their attitude to cancer and how it feels like a slap in the face to people who have had cancer.
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The comments defending them to people criticising them are wild. They’re never going to be you friend, no matter how much arse licking you do in the comments 🙄
 
Ok I'm new here and I was so excited to see people discussing all the above and now I'm gutted the chat stops almost a month ago. Please save me from having to watch their pod and continue all your thoughts/analysis 😅
 
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