Dan Wheeler 8020 #11 Seems its the end of the Tik Tok lives, he'd rather earn his money by cleaning drives.

[noodle3334]

Liam ,look after yourself mate You've only been the front man for a couple of weeks and by the look of it it's taking its toll on you.
Dan really doesn't care who gets hurt just as long as he's OK.
Don't destroy your career to try and help him ,you are worth such much more .

I wish Liam would speak to ex members of staff, they could tell him a thing or two that would hopefully get him to see that walking away is the best option.

 

[DansBarmyArmy]

From a friend who is still doing the plan it’s the same echo chamber of 10-15 people who are watching the lives everyday.

From one pov I do feel a bit sorry for Sean, Kaz, Liam and Lois. They’ve been left holding the bag. Must be difficult being that close to things, knowing it is their job (assuming they are getting paid), and if they walk, it completely implodes and they become the target for any blame.

Saying that… there are more unfilled jobs out there than ever before & Liam has his own pt work.

I have been told the same. Same 10-15 people just chatting rubbish.

 

[Opalfruit8]

From a friend who is still doing the plan it’s the same echo chamber of 10-15 people who are watching the lives everyday.

From one pov I do feel a bit sorry for Sean, Kaz, Liam and Lois. They’ve been left holding the bag. Must be difficult being that close to things, knowing it is their job (assuming they are getting paid), and if they walk, it completely implodes and they become the target for any blame.

Saying that… there are more unfilled jobs out there than ever before & Liam has his own pt work.

I don’t feel sorry for kaz. At all. Watching the lives over the last few months, she sits smugly nodding along and looking at the camera severely when he’s threatening people and shouting legal. She can suck a toe as far as I’m concerned

 

[k801abz]

TCHQ #90 here, sorry I have been radio silent for a while. Just catching up! I am not sad to see his face has disappeared from Tik Tok Has anyone had any success with trading standards? I still have not received a refund and all my emails to 80/20 are being ignored and I have been blocked from all of their social media.

 

[shocktiludrop]

I have been told the same. Same 10-15 people just chatting rubbish.

Same 15 people watching lives but 500 ish members? I’m no Einstein but something doesn’t add up

 

[anon19801980]

Same 15 people watching lives but 500 ish members? I’m no Einstein but something doesn’t add up

Also if there was such an Army in support of this most wonderful of plans then why are 500 of them not all flocking to TP to leave glowing 5 star reviews !
Loving DJ latest updates too - it’s amazing how much you can fit into a day when you don’t have a job isn’t it. He still references working with DW so he’s still culpable in my opinion along with the rest of them. Oh and Carla’s having a breast reduction on the NHS. Wonder how much NI she has ever paid in to the system to deserve that eh

 

[IfTheCapFits]

Lost even more followers this morning, although 9 have joined this week. Do you think they don't know about Dan and his existence considering he's been MIA for weeks now?

Quite probably, especially with MattDan in full sales spiel mode. Not to worry, they'll quickly see how little value there is & hopefully leave pronto. I wonder if 8020 are even refusing refunds at the moment as they just can't handle any more negativity

TCHQ #90 here, sorry I have been radio silent for a while. Just catching up! I am not sad to see his face has disappeared from Tik Tok Has anyone had any success with trading standards? I still have not received a refund and all my emails to 80/20 are being ignored and I have been blocked from all of their social media.

Not seen any recent updates. The more reports, the better chance of TS acting & that sounds like a watertight case to me!

I don't feel sorry for any of 8020 'staff' at this point. There's been so many alarm bells & red flags over the months that this was in no way a legitimate business, it's a wonder they could hear themselves think or even find their way to the garage.

If you were offered a job in a set up like this, it's basic common sense to look online about them. Even 2 years ago, there was enough out there to warn you off.

Liam already has an established business, I have no idea why he wants to be associated with anything 8020, either originally & definitely not now! This could potentially ruin his reputation. I can't imagine he's contractually tied in, as we all know Whanker can't sort that so it's legally binding. Even if he put money in, you've got to cut your losses on a failure at some point. I really am stumped as to why he's there.

 

[Knock knock]

Also if there was such an Army in support of this most wonderful of plans then why are 500 of them not all flocking to TP to leave glowing 5 star reviews !
Loving DJ latest updates too - it’s amazing how much you can fit into a day when you don’t have a job isn’t it. He still references working with DW so he’s still culpable in my opinion along with the rest of them. Oh and Carla’s having a breast reduction on the NHS. Wonder how much NI she has ever paid in to the system to deserve that eh

Gotta admit that brought out my bitchy side As a lady with big boobs why does she get a freebie ?? Oh I could carry on but I won't I will be the better person .

 

[scotslass1506]

TCHQ #90 here, sorry I have been radio silent for a while. Just catching up! I am not sad to see his face has disappeared from Tik Tok Has anyone had any success with trading standards? I still have not received a refund and all my emails to 80/20 are being ignored and I have been blocked from all of their social media.

Is there certain criteria to requesting a refund? I could do with that £125 now

 

[janedoe754]

TCHQ #90 here, sorry I have been radio silent for a while. Just catching up! I am not sad to see his face has disappeared from Tik Tok Has anyone had any success with trading standards? I still have not received a refund and all my emails to 80/20 are being ignored and I have been blocked from all of their social media.

Ive gone back to T/S this week
My first email to them - completely ignored, Second one - replied to with a heap of shit
Ive handed over to T/S completely now, Given full details of evidence + proof ...... I await their reply.

 

[RachRN86]

Gotta admit that brought out my bitchy side As a lady with big boobs why does she get a freebie ?? Oh I could carry on but I won't I will be the better person .

I didn't think the NHS did breast reductions anymore? They don't do skin removal surgery following weight loss any more so I thought that had stopped too

 

[IfTheCapFits]

Is there certain criteria to requesting a refund? I could do with that £125 now

No cms loss on weekly measurements seems to be the only criteria, i think even if you lost & regained they'd refuse. It's a worthless guarantee when it comes down to it. I think Emma posted an update from TS a while ago, will try to find it...

Last info I could find, so depends on the date you signed up. If outdated info on website, go for it as what was shown isn't what was received. Even if after they updated the website, I'd still refer to TS as that guarantee is so poorly worded & not defined in any t&c to my knowledge.

Current info on website at the end. Everyone could claim on that! "No mindset OR physical changes", very poorly worded

 

[shocktiludrop]

Also if there was such an Army in support of this most wonderful of plans then why are 500 of them not all flocking to TP to leave glowing 5 star reviews !
Loving DJ latest updates too - it’s amazing how much you can fit into a day when you don’t have a job isn’t it. He still references working with DW so he’s still culpable in my opinion along with the rest of them. Oh and Carla’s having a breast reduction on the NHS. Wonder how much NI she has ever paid in to the system to deserve that eh

Exactly this! Some of the hangers on have my sympathy as they are going to have a right time of it when they finally see the light, Carla and Dan do not fall into this category. I have nothing against the benefit system, quite the opposite, but you can see how people get wound up by spongers like these.

Quite probably, especially with MattDan in full sales spiel mode. Not to worry, they'll quickly see how little value there is & hopefully leave pronto. I wonder if 8020 are even refusing refunds at the moment as they just can't handle any more negativity


Not seen any recent updates. The more reports, the better chance of TS acting & that sounds like a watertight case to me!

I don't feel sorry for any of 8020 'staff' at this point. There's been so many alarm bells & red flags over the months that this was in no way a legitimate business, it's a wonder they could hear themselves think or even find their way to the garage.

If you were offered a job in a set up like this, it's basic common sense to look online about them. Even 2 years ago, there was enough out there to warn you off.

Liam already has an established business, I have no idea why he wants to be associated with anything 8020, either originally & definitely not now! This could potentially ruin his reputation. I can't imagine he's contractually tied in, as we all know Whanker can't sort that so it's legally binding. Even if he put money in, you've got to cut your losses on a failure at some point. I really am stumped as to why he's there.

I do think some people clinging on have made investments, probably all dealt with in the pub with no actual paperwork and you’re right- sometimes you just need to cut your losses and be happy you don’t have any legal ties to this sham.

No cms loss on weekly measurements seems to be the only criteria, i think even if you lost & regained they'd refuse. It's a worthless guarantee when it comes down to it. I think Emma posted an update from TS a while ago, will try to find it...

Last info I could find, so depends on the date you signed up. If outdated info on website, go for it as what was shown isn't what was received. Even if after they updated the website, I'd still refer to TS as that guarantee is so poorly worded & not defined in any t&c to my knowledge.

Current info on website at the end. Everyone could claim on that! "No mindset OR physical changes", very poorly worded

Thing is though, TS will be looking at the delivery of the product signed up for. You could have lost weight and it wouldn’t even matter.

 

[Coconutclub]

I didn't think the NHS did breast reductions anymore? They don't do skin removal surgery following weight loss any more so I thought that had stopped too

They do if the issue is causing bad mental health or bad back pain.
I doubt that she will be seen quickly though - although I know that varies from hospital to hospital, waiting lists for plastic surgery at the moment are long. I had breast reconstruction after having cancer - this is a while ago now, but I'm in a couple of support groups for women with / have had ovarian and breast cancer and most of them are facing 2 year waits after a masectomy because of Covid delays and operations still being cancelled from staff having covid. I have heard of quite a few going privately despite definitely being entitled to the procedure on the NHS. A reduction operation would be done by the same department / surgeons as reconstruction is and most plastic surgeons working in the NHS also have private practices so they are not working there every day which is why the waiting time is long to start with.

If for whatever reason Carla is lucky enough to get the operation soon, good for her, but hopefully DJ will have the sense not to 'brag/ joke' about it online again. Hopefully they will bear in mind the impact covid has had on the wait list for these surgeons and that there are women living with masectomys still waiting and a higher number of those patients are younger women.

I don't understand the Jones' finanical situation, I don't want to presume they are on benefits - did someone here not say that he had discovered that he can earn a fortune through social media?? maybe go private instead. In all honesty a breast reduction would make a real difference to her figure, she would definitely benefit from one.

 

[Indigo-waters]

I do think some people clinging on have made investments, probably all dealt with in the pub with no actual paperwork and you’re right- sometimes you just need to cut your losses and be happy you don’t have any legal ties to this sham.

I wish someone had given me this advice in my 20s where I hung on too long in an emotionally abusive relationship with someone who owed thousands on my credit cards in the hope that it might have been done amicably ansld he'd pay it back. Spoiler: this will never happen and I had the debt to prove it for many years after!

 

[Potatocake]

TCHQ #90 here, sorry I have been radio silent for a while. Just catching up! I am not sad to see his face has disappeared from Tik Tok Has anyone had any success with trading standards? I still have not received a refund and all my emails to 80/20 are being ignored and I have been blocked from all of their social media.

Can your bank help? They may be able to get the money back via their dispute team?

 

[ashdlol]

Definately. Still not sure how they think can improve service with less staff?

And Liams video about '' as we get busier you will be seeing a lot more of me''

Liam, mate. Have a word. The numbers are lower than ever, morale is none existent, staff have disappeared, the members are confused as f**k and Dan is leaving you to sort out the mess.

Like a good game of Jenga its only gonna take a couple more bricks and the lot is gonna come tumbling down.

I dunno about you lot, but I am here for it!

I am so here for it n like you say a few more brick n this will all be over x

 

[shocktiludrop]

I wish someone had given me this advice in my 20s where I hung on too long in an emotionally abusive relationship with someone who owed thousands on my credit cards in the hope that it might have been done amicably ansld he'd pay it back. Spoiler: this will never happen and I had the debt to prove it for many years after!

I learnt this the hard way about 12 years ago after me and hubby helped with a family members business when they got themselves in trouble. It was a very successful business so we couldn’t work out how it was going down the pan, until we realised a very serious drug habit was being funded by the business, makes you think about what’s going on with 80/20. We worked our asses of in the hope of recouping money but sometimes you do just have to cut your losses and walk away. I can really empathise with you

 

[notforme1]

Can your bank help? They may be able to get the money back via their dispute team?

I'd thought about claiming the money back via the bank but to be honest been put off for not wanting to get phone calls and grief from the 8020 team

 

[sofaz56]

Singing Steve is back again