COVID-19 vaccine #18 & general vaccine conversation
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Purrrrrrr
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Trying to implant it into people's minds that once again gay people are plague carriers, even now how many years later and many still connect HIV/AIDS with gay men.
I've said it a million times, if they can get a ciggie paper between two people far enough to divide them then that is what they will do.
monga
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People will be in shock once their kids start breaking out in pox , misinformation from the highest level
rainbowlemon
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No fair！I really want that vax too. 
Why do those selfish folk get to have all the fun?
The new sticker would also look really good on my facebook profile. I made a new friend semi recently but think I have to stop being friends with him as i’m not sure if he’s “fully vaccinated”. It used to be three but now wouldn’t five be even better？He’s a danger to me being under vaccinated.
The TV post should be under a spoiler. After almost three years of not taking the vax you’re not going to cave now. Especially when there’s no donughts or 30 mins free sexy time with a vulnerable woman.
Why do those selfish folk get to have all the fun?
The new sticker would also look really good on my facebook profile. I made a new friend semi recently but think I have to stop being friends with him as i’m not sure if he’s “fully vaccinated”. It used to be three but now wouldn’t five be even better？He’s a danger to me being under vaccinated.
The TV post should be under a spoiler. After almost three years of not taking the vax you’re not going to cave now. Especially when there’s no donughts or 30 mins free sexy time with a vulnerable woman.
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rainbowlemon
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OMG this is pretty HUGE for FOX news :
monga
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It was in the Daily Mail a few days ago
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...g-NIH-CDC-droves-embarrassed-bad-science.html
rainbowlemon
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Ooh thanks Monga. I don’t usually scan through the Daily Mail so missed it.
I always thought Pfizer could do no wrong.
Guess the times they are a changin.
monga
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rainbowlemon
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Back from 21’ : Intravenous Injection of Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) mRNA Vaccine Can Induce Acute Myopericarditis in Mouse Model.
A second dose (a “booster”) into the bloodstreams of mice, resulted in visibly enlarged hearts with white patches that could be seen by the naked eye, as well as cytokine storms and liver damage
Who knew all of this too? ( if it’s true of course ) :
We were told that Pfizer/BioNTech is a German company. But it is actually a German-Chinese company. Since I first found that Pfizer/BioNTech had an MOU with Fosun Pharmaceuticals, a major CCP-linked pharmaceutical company based in Shanghai, to make the Pfizer/BioNTech MRNA vaccines, I knew that with a bit more digging I would find China at the heart of these acts of war.
BioNTech’s SEC filing shows that the MOU with Fosun Pharmaceuticals includes an equity investment by Fosun in BioNTech. In other words, the CCP is an equity investor in BioNTech: “As part of the strategic alliance with Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceutical (Group) Co., Ltd (“Fosun Pharma”; Stock Symbol: 600196.SH, 02196.HK) whereby the two companies will work together on the development of BNT162 in China, Fosun agreed to make an equity investment which was received in mid-April 2020. The issuance of 1,580,777 ordinary shares with the nominal amount of k€ 1,581 was registered within the commercial register (Handelsregister) as of April 23, 2020.” Not only that but: “Ai-Min Hui, President of Global R&D, and Chief Medical Officer of Fosun Pharma said: ”We are closely working with BioNTech and regulatory authorities to evaluate the safety and efficacy of the vaccine candidate, in order to synchronize the development process in China with other countries, and to bring the vaccine to public as soon as possible, if the vaccine succeeds.” [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1776985/000119312520210694/d54613d424b3.htm]
Fosun is not separate from the CCP; it is the CCP: Fosun acquired almost half of Sinopharm: “In 2003 Fosun Pharmaceutical acquired 49% stake of Sinopharm Group (Chinese: 国药控股). […] In 2008, a year before the initial public offering of Sinopharm Group, Fosun Pharmaceutical owned the direct parent company of Sinopharm Group, Sinopharm Industrial Investment (Chinese: 国药产业投资) instead; the majority owner of the joint venture was state-owned China National Pharmaceutical Group (Sinopharm).” 2003年年报[2003 Annual Report] (PDF). Fosun Industrial. 24 April 2004. Retrieved 5 August 2018– via Shanghai Stock Exchange website. [^ 国药集团复星联合成立首家混合所有制药企. 企业观察报 (in Chinese (China)). 4 August 2014. Retrieved 5 August 2018 – via Sina; ^ 2009年年报 [2009 Annual Report] (PDF). Fosun Pharmaceutical. 25 March 2010. Retrieved 5 August 2018 – via Shanghai Stock Exchange website.; ^ "Connection Transaction" (PDF) (Press release). Shanghai: Fosun International. 20 June 2008.]
Sinopharm, of course, as you see above, of which Fosun owns almost half, is owned in turn directly by the Chinese State and thus reports directly to the CCP.
The initial BioNTech/Fosun MOU seems to imply that all of the BioNTech/Fosun joint ventures’ activity is in China, or in regions aligned with or close to China. But is that now the case? Fosun Pharma did not stay in China.
It came here. Fosun Pharmaceuticals is now also Fosun Pharmaceuticals USA, with branches for R and D and product formulation in Boston, MA and Princeton, NJ:
A second dose (a “booster”) into the bloodstreams of mice, resulted in visibly enlarged hearts with white patches that could be seen by the naked eye, as well as cytokine storms and liver damage
Who knew all of this too? ( if it’s true of course ) :
We were told that Pfizer/BioNTech is a German company. But it is actually a German-Chinese company. Since I first found that Pfizer/BioNTech had an MOU with Fosun Pharmaceuticals, a major CCP-linked pharmaceutical company based in Shanghai, to make the Pfizer/BioNTech MRNA vaccines, I knew that with a bit more digging I would find China at the heart of these acts of war.
BioNTech’s SEC filing shows that the MOU with Fosun Pharmaceuticals includes an equity investment by Fosun in BioNTech. In other words, the CCP is an equity investor in BioNTech: “As part of the strategic alliance with Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceutical (Group) Co., Ltd (“Fosun Pharma”; Stock Symbol: 600196.SH, 02196.HK) whereby the two companies will work together on the development of BNT162 in China, Fosun agreed to make an equity investment which was received in mid-April 2020. The issuance of 1,580,777 ordinary shares with the nominal amount of k€ 1,581 was registered within the commercial register (Handelsregister) as of April 23, 2020.” Not only that but: “Ai-Min Hui, President of Global R&D, and Chief Medical Officer of Fosun Pharma said: ”We are closely working with BioNTech and regulatory authorities to evaluate the safety and efficacy of the vaccine candidate, in order to synchronize the development process in China with other countries, and to bring the vaccine to public as soon as possible, if the vaccine succeeds.” [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1776985/000119312520210694/d54613d424b3.htm]
Fosun is not separate from the CCP; it is the CCP: Fosun acquired almost half of Sinopharm: “In 2003 Fosun Pharmaceutical acquired 49% stake of Sinopharm Group (Chinese: 国药控股). […] In 2008, a year before the initial public offering of Sinopharm Group, Fosun Pharmaceutical owned the direct parent company of Sinopharm Group, Sinopharm Industrial Investment (Chinese: 国药产业投资) instead; the majority owner of the joint venture was state-owned China National Pharmaceutical Group (Sinopharm).” 2003年年报[2003 Annual Report] (PDF). Fosun Industrial. 24 April 2004. Retrieved 5 August 2018– via Shanghai Stock Exchange website. [^ 国药集团复星联合成立首家混合所有制药企. 企业观察报 (in Chinese (China)). 4 August 2014. Retrieved 5 August 2018 – via Sina; ^ 2009年年报 [2009 Annual Report] (PDF). Fosun Pharmaceutical. 25 March 2010. Retrieved 5 August 2018 – via Shanghai Stock Exchange website.; ^ "Connection Transaction" (PDF) (Press release). Shanghai: Fosun International. 20 June 2008.]
Sinopharm, of course, as you see above, of which Fosun owns almost half, is owned in turn directly by the Chinese State and thus reports directly to the CCP.
The initial BioNTech/Fosun MOU seems to imply that all of the BioNTech/Fosun joint ventures’ activity is in China, or in regions aligned with or close to China. But is that now the case? Fosun Pharma did not stay in China.
It came here. Fosun Pharmaceuticals is now also Fosun Pharmaceuticals USA, with branches for R and D and product formulation in Boston, MA and Princeton, NJ:
Freedomofspeech89
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More evidence that masks don't work.
Emmelina Ball
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But but but, science!!
Maccat123
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I'm sorry but an article from the daily mail with a tonne of fallacious comparisons isn't evidence of anything.
Freedomofspeech89
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What evidence are you even speaking of?? It clearly states that where masks have been worn more, there have been more covid cases. I'm not sure what more proof you are looking for
Maccat123
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You literally said more evidence that masks don't work therefore I said that article hardly counts as evidence. Furthermore that article was referring to the rate of cases (which are currently similar for the three countries listed) not number of covid cases so I assume you didn't read it properly either. Not only that but correlation doesn't equal causation it doesn't prove anything... this is a tabloid magazine owned by billionaires who would prefer it if everyone went back to "normal" and have always been against measures. This isn't exactly a reputable source.What evidence are you even speaking of?? It clearly states that where masks have been worn more, there have been more covid cases. I'm not sure what more proof you are looking for
Prefrontalmedialcortex
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Reputable sources/research regarding masks:
www.bmj.com
Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis
Objective To review the evidence on the effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality. Design Systematic review and meta-analysis. Data sources Medline, Embase, CINAHL, Biosis, Joanna Briggs, Global Health, and...
www.bmj.com
Mask-wearing and control of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in the USA: a cross-sectional study
The widespread reported use of face masks combined with physical distancing increases the odds of SARS-CoV-2 transmission control. Self-reported mask-wearing increased separately from government mask mandates, suggesting that supplemental public health interventions are needed to maximise...
www.thelancet.com
Emmelina Ball
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That’s from 2021, science is ever changing as you know. In 2021 they also said we’d only need 2 vaccines. Now it’s 5.Reputable sources/research regarding masks:
Effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality: systematic review and meta-analysis
Objective To review the evidence on the effectiveness of public health measures in reducing the incidence of covid-19, SARS-CoV-2 transmission, and covid-19 mortality. Design Systematic review and meta-analysis. Data sources Medline, Embase, CINAHL, Biosis, Joanna Briggs, Global Health, and...
Mask-wearing and control of SARS-CoV-2 transmission in the USA: a cross-sectional study
The widespread reported use of face masks combined with physical distancing increases the odds of SARS-CoV-2 transmission control. Self-reported mask-wearing increased separately from government mask mandates, suggesting that supplemental public health interventions are needed to maximise...www.thelancet.com
The article in the daily mail stems from retweets from Peter Collignon, a Professor in infectious diseases at an Australian university. Where the below data was compared. Correlation might not equal causation no but it’s worth investigating, don’t you think? Either way a Professor in Infectious Diseases thought so enough to retweet it.
Prefrontalmedialcortex
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I am fully aware, however the virus is still airbourne hence masks wouldn’t have stopped working all of a sudden.
Regarding the graphs - there are so many other factors that have not been considered so to draw such conclusions as per the article is just a tad off.(This is just merely my opinion…)
Emmelina Ball
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That’s why it’s worth investigating.I am fully aware, however the virus is still airbourne hence masks wouldn’t have stopped working all of a sudden.
(This is just merely my opinion…)
There is lots of science out there that suggests masks are largely ineffective. Only very specific types are considered effective and only when the rules around wearing them are followed to the letter (don’t touch as soon as you put on or take off get a new one etc) and it seems clinicians struggle to follow that advice too.
I mean here we have an A&E Consultant, fumbling around with his mask in his hands telling us he’ll put it back on when he goes in the hospital. How many surfaces and infected people has he touched before touching that mask which he’s now gonna wrap around his
face. Pointless exercise.
secretsunloaded
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I had my last vaccine in May which was the "booster" and just be clear ive had 3 vaccines in total. Never tested positive over the years, been very careful with wearing face masks when it was compulsory and sanitising always as I have highly vulnerable family members
Please tell me why I've tested positive today?! ive had very severe symptoms that felt more deadly than a normal flu and I've only now 3 days later started feeling like myself again. I'm just shocked that I put whatever I did in my system just for it to not work completely. The vaccine is a complete joke and for those who doubted it all along, I wish I did the same!
Sending love to all those who have tested positive, it's honestly horrible. May we all recover as soon as!
Please tell me why I've tested positive today?! ive had very severe symptoms that felt more deadly than a normal flu and I've only now 3 days later started feeling like myself again. I'm just shocked that I put whatever I did in my system just for it to not work completely. The vaccine is a complete joke and for those who doubted it all along, I wish I did the same!
Sending love to all those who have tested positive, it's honestly horrible. May we all recover as soon as!
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