Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #117

[Tatooine_legend1]

We are the same, as far as i know none of us in our house have had it.

Strange isn't it. Didn't the experts say that even a small amount of particles can enter your system and give you a milder infection? I'm not sure if that's true, but heard it in the first year of the pandemic. If people have been receiving smaller amounts of particles, maybe there is immunity without any bad symptoms. This could be absolute gobbledygook though lol

 

[monga]

The article doesn't really say anything about Jool's, it's all about him . And what they have said about her , could also be said about peri- menopause ( which also seems to be a popular topic in the media)

Would you need to see a Harley St consultant for menopause ? it doesn't touch on her symptoms at all .

 

[Baby Giraffe]

Would you need to see a Harley St consultant for menopause ? it doesn't touch on her symptoms at all .

Sadly a lot of women are totally failed by their GPs when asking for menopause related support so I know a fair few people who have resorted to private assistance. No idea in this case but it’s not uncommon generally

 

[Kim Mild]

Would you need to see a Harley St consultant for menopause ? it doesn't touch on her symptoms at all .

Women do struggle with perimenopause and some seek medical assistance . Women who can afford it , get hrt and testosterone prescribed privately. It seems like it is such a hot topic at the moment for women 40+ and Jools is in that age group. The only symptoms it really mentions are fatigue , brain fog , heart palpitations and muscle aches which could be symptoms of both long covid or perimenopause.

The article is doesn't actually say much . I wonder if they have just taken bits from the Oliver's social media and other interviews and bodged it together just to have content to publish.

 

[monga]

Women do struggle with perimenopause and some seek medical assistance . Women who can afford it , get hrt and testosterone prescribed privately. It seems like it is such a hot topic at the moment for women 40+ and Jools is in that age group. The only symptoms it really mentions are fatigue , brain fog , heart palpitations and muscle aches which could be symptoms of both long covid or perimenopause.

The article is doesn't actually say much . I wonder if they have just taken bits from the Oliver's social media and other interviews and bodged it together just to have content to publish.

Don't know but it mentions long covid and that they're not sure how to treat it as they're still learning about it ...Menopause can be picked up through a blood test so maybe it's been ruled out if her hormones are still within the normal range ?

 

[Baby Giraffe]

Don't know but it mentions long covid and that they're not sure how to treat it as they're still learning about it ...Menopause can be picked up through a blood test so maybe it's been ruled out if her hormones are still within the normal range ?

Peri menopause can last 10+ years before actual menopause and isn’t picked up by blood tests as at that stage hormones fluctuate too much. Some GPs keep doing testing hormones at this stage but this isn’t what they should be doing and isn’t in line with NICE guidance. Perfectly valid to test for other underlying conditions though.

 

[monga]

Peri menopause can last 10+ years before actual menopause and isn’t picked up by blood tests as at that stage hormones fluctuate too much. Some GPs keep doing testing hormones at this stage but this isn’t what they should be doing and isn’t in line with NICE guidance. Perfectly valid to test for other underlying conditions though.

Yes I know that but if her levels aren’t on the low side they wouldn’t be looking at menopause, she’s 47 so I’m sure that would be something they’d account for ,if she’s been having treatment under a consultant blood and hormones would be the first thing they’d check / monitor.

 

[Baby Giraffe]

Yes I know that but if her levels aren’t on the low side they wouldn’t be looking at menopause, she’s 47 so I’m sure that would be something they’d account for ,if she’s been having treatment under a consultant blood and hormones would be the first thing they’d check / monitor.

Nope, if you’re over 45 they shouldn’t be testing for hormone levels and, if there are no other health concerns, they should treat peri symptoms based entirely on symptoms. As I said, testing for hormone levels during peri is totally pointless and unreliable so not something worth trying to monitor

 

[monga]

Nope, if you’re over 45 they shouldn’t be testing for hormone levels and, if there are no other health concerns, they should treat peri symptoms based entirely on symptoms. As I said, testing for hormone levels during peri is totally pointless and unreliable so not something worth trying to monitor

They're not treating her for menopause though ,she's been treated for long covid ,those symptoms could be down to being hypothyroid for instance .in that case they will measure hormones to rule out certain things as a matter of routine, her bloods would be checked for inflammatory markers and antibodies amongst other things .

 

[Baby Giraffe]

They're not treating her for menopause though ,she's been treated for long covid ,those symptoms could be down to being hypothyroid for instance .in that case they will measure hormones to rule out certain things as a matter of routine, her bloods would be checked for inflammatory markers and antibodies amongst other things .

In her case yes, I’m just addressing misconceptions about peri menopause eg that it is diagnosed by checking hormones. It’s also obviously very important that any other underlying heath conditions are checked for and addressed

 

[monga]

In her case yes, I’m just addressing misconceptions about peri menopause eg that it is diagnosed by checking hormones. It’s also obviously very important that any other underlying heath conditions are checked for and addressed

I don’t think anyone had any misconceptions I think everyone has different experiences of medical care no matter what they’re being treated for.

 

[Web30]

Strange isn't it. Didn't the experts say that even a small amount of particles can enter your system and give you a milder infection? I'm not sure if that's true, but heard it in the first year of the pandemic. If people have been receiving smaller amounts of particles, maybe there is immunity without any bad symptoms. This could be absolute gobbledygook though lol

Its likely. I work in a hospital so have been around it a lot!

 

[Baby Giraffe]

I don’t think anyone had any misconceptions I think everyone has different experiences of medical care no matter what they’re being treated for.

You said you can test for hormone levels during peri menopause which is a misconception that gets stated regularly but is incorrect. Yes these tests are undertaken but they’re unreliable and worthless, this is factual and nothing to do with medical care levels.

 

[monga]

You said you can test for hormone levels during peri menopause which is a misconception that gets stated regularly but is incorrect. Yes these tests are undertaken but they’re unreliable and worthless, this is factual and nothing to do with medical care levels.

It's not a misconception you can test during peri menopause , many women have period changes including heavy bleeding that they do actually treat , some ending in hysterectomy , not all women are ignored when they approach their GP with symptoms .

 

[Baby Giraffe]

It's not a misconception you can test during peri menopause , many women have period changes including heavy bleeding that they do actually treat , some ending in hysterectomy , not all women are ignored when they approach their GP with symptoms .

Yes, loads of us have changes, I did, I’ve been treated too but based on symptoms as hormone tests during peri are totally unreliable which is what all medical guidance says and is outlined in the NICE guidelines. The misconception I’m talking about (which you also seem to have) is that you can reliably test hormone levels at this stage .
I’m off to bed now so won’t be continuing this but mainly because it’s irrelevant to the thread.

 

[monga]

Yes, loads of us have changes, I did, I’ve been treated too but based on symptoms as hormone tests during peri are totally unreliable which is what all medical guidance says and is outlined in the NICE guidelines. The misconception I’m talking about (which you also seem to have) is that you can reliably test hormone levels at this stage .
I’m off to bed now so won’t be continuing this but mainly because it’s irrelevant to the thread.

It's you that's derailing ...I've got no misconceptions ,you're making out women are ignored I'm stating that's not true in all cases they are offered treatments based on bloodwork and symptoms .

 

[EasterEggs]

A few months ago my period was really late - almost 5 weeks when its usually just over 3. This is really unusual for me, I am never ever late. Then the next cycle was about 4 weeks and I had that thing where all/most of your uterine lining comes out in one go (I forget the name! It’s a bit gross). I get a lot of clots usually but it was just a bit unusual. I had been stressed but no more than I have been at other times in my life and my periods are never affected.

Anyway it occurred to me today that maybe I had had Covid and not known!! I’d love to know if I had or not. I’ve been googling antibody tests and I think you can still get them but you have to pay for them

Edit - just googled and the lining thing is called a decidual cast and there is a research paper that has reported an increase in women having them over the last 2 years, so I think I must have had Covid and not known!

 

[Whatamadworld]

Interesting and slightly worrisome.

 

[50sGirl]

Interesting and slightly worrisome.

Sounds like scaremongering from someone I assume isn‘t a Brit due to his use of the word Fall rather than Autumn.

Imho I think all restrictions were lifted earlier this year so that a high percentage would have Covid during the summer months so that it would ease the burden on the NHS over winter.

From my perspective it worked. We all caught Covid for the first time in August. My friend, who is a frontline nurse, caught it this month after dodging it since March 2020. This is because you no longer had to isolate if you had it so it was more easily spread. We still isolated though because we felt it was the correct thing to do.

I do think there will be a surge in cases during winter but that is the same with colds, flu, etc. I doubt we’d ever go back to the full lockdowns we had previously.

 

[candyland_]

Covid has finally got me. My family came over at the weekend and they tested positive the same night, l woke up at one am this morning feeling horrific and confirmed on two tests. I honestly thought it was all over with