Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #117

[Piff paff puff]

Dad who suffered brain injury days after getting COVID vaccine sues AstraZeneca

Jamie Scott alleges the pharmaceutical giant exaggerated the vaccine's effectiveness and downplayed its risks. AstraZeneca denies the claims made against them.

news.sky.com

The below paragraph taken from the article. Why oh why did millions of people not question this part of it as well as many other red flags? And we've all heard the saying if something sounds too good to be true it probably is. I never watched it heard any of those public announcements with the 3 stooges they did on the TV but is that why people believed everything they were hearing without question? Instinct is a really strong sense we have as humans. Is it that most people consume news? Are people who refused the jab ones who don't consume news or are more selective as to where they consumed news?
Where the jab refusers more cynical of the state? Remember situations where the state has lied?
One thing I am sure of, most people think that if the majority of people think the same thing then it's correct. Whereas I think the opposite. I've always been extremely solitary though and see myself as a separate entity to other humans

"AstraZeneca and the government need to explain the risk whenever you take medicine. If there's a risk - I've got a young family - I would never have taken it."

 

[rainbowlemon]

I know someone who told me he thought “the government lied to us with our best interests at heart”.

I couldn’t take him seriously after that and he was 5 years older than me. I asked him about Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction.

It was just a gut feeling for me personally. It didn’t feel natural. He later said the exact same thing a year later. Surprisingly I didn’t tell him I told him so.

 

[monga]

I know someone who told me he thought “the government lied to us with our best interests at heart”.

I couldn’t take him seriously after that and he was 5 years older than me. I asked him about Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction.

It was just a gut feeling for me personally. It didn’t feel natural. He later said the exact same thing a year later. Surprisingly I didn’t tell him I told him so.

AZ have done a deal with China for their cancer treatments…Every gov is self serving name one that puts their citizens interests first

 

[rainbowlemon]

 

[gossipgirlxxo]

I’m very aware I might come across a bit stupid on this thread but anyway, I was massively for the vaccine. I had mine very early and judged everyone who didn’t get it. Now, I couldn’t be more opposite and I regret ever having it done.

When I debate with my family about it, the one thing I can’t get around or argue, is that the flu vaccine changes every year. Can anyone explain to me what’s the difference between that being a ‘new’ vaccine each year, and the Covid vaccine being new at the time?

hope this makes sense, I just want to educate myself more

 

[monga]

I’m very aware I might come across a bit stupid on this thread but anyway, I was massively for the vaccine. I had mine very early and judged everyone who didn’t get it. Now, I couldn’t be more opposite and I regret ever having it done.

When I debate with my family about it, the one thing I can’t get around or argue, is that the flu vaccine changes every year. Can anyone explain to me what’s the difference between that being a ‘new’ vaccine each year, and the Covid vaccine being new at the time?

hope this makes sense, I just want to educate myself more

Why do you regret it? ( if you don’t mind answering) flu and coronaviruses are completely different .

 

[rainbowlemon]

The flu vaccine is updated every year to match the strains of the influenza virus that are expected to be most prevalent during the upcoming flu season.

The first flu vaccines came out in the 1940s. The flu vaccine is either inactivated or a live attenuated form. Traditional vaccines.

The Covid vax by Pfizer for example uses messenger RNA to instruct cells in the body to produce a protein that is part of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, specifically the spike protein.

mRNA vaccine technology may have been researched for several years, but no other mRNA vaccines have been on the market or been deployed on a large scale before the COVID-19 vaccines.

With updated Covid vaccines they can change the mRNA sequence to match new prevalent variants, still new.

You can read through these threads for more information. It’s been a long road.

In general:
-Spike protein has been proven to be found in circulation four months after and does not degrade instantly as promised.
-There is widespread systemic biodistribution.
-The Vax has been found in placental tissue & breast milk.

https://react19.org/science

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The development of traditional vaccines typically takes many years, often over a decade. 10-15 years.

The COVID-19 vaccine development was significantly accelerated.
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In the uk the first vax was given In December 2020. Just almost 4 years ago. This is still very early in the timeline.
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I personally don’t see the point in debating family/ friends.

 

[gossipgirlxxo]

The flu vaccine is updated every year to match the strains of the influenza virus that are expected to be most prevalent during the upcoming flu season.

The first flu vaccines came out in the 1940s. The flu vaccine is either inactivated or a live attenuated form. Traditional vaccines.

The Covid vax by Pfizer for example uses messenger RNA to instruct cells in the body to produce a protein that is part of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, specifically the spike protein.

mRNA vaccine technology may have been researched for several years, but no other mRNA vaccines have been on the market or been deployed on a large scale before the COVID-19 vaccines.

With updated Covid vaccines they can change the mRNA sequence to match new prevalent variants, still new.

You can read through these threads for more information. It’s been a long road.

In general:
-Spike protein has been proven to be found in circulation four months after and does not degrade instantly as promised.
-There is widespread systemic biodistribution.
-The Vax has been found in placental tissue & breast milk.

https://react19.org/science

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The development of traditional vaccines typically takes many years, often over a decade. 10-15 years.

The COVID-19 vaccine development was significantly accelerated.
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In the uk the first vax was given In December 2020. Just almost 4 years ago. This is still very early in the timeline.
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I personally don’t see the point in debating family/ friends.

Thank you for the info!
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Why do you regret it? ( if you don’t mind answering) flu and coronaviruses are completely different .

Thinking back to how mentally vulnerable we all were and scared we were all gonna die, I don’t feel I had a ‘sensible head’ on when I made the decision

I don’t like talking about it with anyone really but my family are very set in their ways and no other opinion counts they’re looking down on me for not getting the vaccine again

 

[monga]

Should they not have tweaked the vaccine to suit when they saw the new strain ?

Summer Covid wave 'building' after rise in hospital admissions

archived 30 Jun 2024 15:33:22 UTC

archive.ph

 

[rainbowlemon]

“Although we’ve just had a spring booster campaign for vulnerable populations, the uptake was lower than in 2023.”

“Ultimately, it’s going to become another cause of the common cold and, for many people, that’s what it is now.”

 

[monga]

 

[monga]

There’s nothing can be done but to let it run its course.

 

[Jean Grey]

Thank you for the info!
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Thinking back to how mentally vulnerable we all were and scared we were all gonna die, I don’t feel I had a ‘sensible head’ on when I made the decision

I don’t like talking about it with anyone really but my family are very set in their ways and no other opinion counts they’re looking down on me for not getting the vaccine again

The thing is, if they are so set in their ways, even if you showed them all the official documents, and all the precedents in history, it still wouldn’t probably make any difference.

 

[rainbowlemon]

Data for an Italian province.




The only thing people understand is money.

 

[KYLIE]

I’ll always be certain my family friend died after getting the shot.

She’d had Covid and was a bit sicker than the regular person with it but recovered and as soon as the vaccines rolled out she died. Of course they wrote down “Covid” but she was older and got more than the average person like a sheep going to slaughter due to “being vulnerable”.

Always blows my mind how people on sites like this start going on about Covid as if it’s the zombie apocalypse patient zero. “Ohhh she’s spreading covid” about influencers etc like fucking hell who even tests anymore? Many areas of culture like bars, nightclubs, restaurants, jobs haven’t recovered still from the way they locked everything down. Companies went bust, peoples business failed. Ruined lives yet people are like omglet’s lock down again!

Absolutely shambolic few years that stole years of my life, made me lose my job and had my grandmother socially isolated. I’ll never comply again after seeing how frail and fragile and shy my grandma was when we were finally “allowed”’to see her. It really made me see that old people thrive so much on being social and it keeps them “alive” and not sitting in a chair all day. That is probably what killed a lot of the elderly tbh during Covid. Loneliness. Not fucking Covid.

Sorry for the rant. But hopefully some likeminded people on here get me

 

[monga]

 

[Moanyoldwoman]

Hi - great thread. Im looking for advice. Has anyone had experience in the NHS care sector and refused it? Basically my daughter is 16 and her whole life she has wanted to be a midwife. As I understand it to be accepted to work in the hospital she has to have up to date vaccinations. I don’t want her to have the vaccine - is there a way around it? She’s happy to have it because she wants to be a midwife but she’s 16 and not hearing the risk and ultimately I can’t force her not to. I don’t know what to do. TIA

 

[Piff paff puff]

Hi - great thread. Im looking for advice. Has anyone had experience in the NHS care sector and refused it? Basically my daughter is 16 and her whole life she has wanted to be a midwife. As I understand it to be accepted to work in the hospital she has to have up to date vaccinations. I don’t want her to have the vaccine - is there a way around it? She’s happy to have it because she wants to be a midwife but she’s 16 and not hearing the risk and ultimately I can’t force her not to. I don’t know what to do. TIA

Had to check the date on this sorry I can't advise but are they saying she needs recent COVID jabs? Insane.

 

[monga]

Hi - great thread. Im looking for advice. Has anyone had experience in the NHS care sector and refused it? Basically my daughter is 16 and her whole life she has wanted to be a midwife. As I understand it to be accepted to work in the hospital she has to have up to date vaccinations. I don’t want her to have the vaccine - is there a way around it? She’s happy to have it because she wants to be a midwife but she’s 16 and not hearing the risk and ultimately I can’t force her not to. I don’t know what to do. TIA

NHS don’t require people to have the Covid vaccine as part of their employment, think they’re the highest group of avoiders

COVID-19 and vaccination FAQs | Royal College of Nursing

FAQs from nursing staff about COVID-19 vaccination and work, including dosage, pregnancy and practical advice on delivery.

www.rcn.org.uk

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[ThirdWorldGlam]

She’s happy to have it because she wants to be a midwife but she’s 16 and not hearing the risk and ultimately I can’t force her not to.

I am afraid is difficult to change people's minds about this, I'd share this thread and other information such as the lawsuits to make an educated choice.

Unsure on what happens if you reject the vaccine due to religious or medical reasons, but there may be a pathway if you look up for it.