that podcast episode was CRINGE. the band were talking about their new single - which babs clearly hadn't listened to beforehand, despite being such a HUGE fan - and she commented on how "depressing" it sounded based on the title, something to do with the end of the world, and the band explain it's all about love and the world ending and about how all you need around you is people you love and not material possessions etc because in that moment, it is all meaningless....and there is an awkward silence as babs struggles to change the subject, because to her, tat is EVERYTHING. her possessions have more value to her than all else, and if the world was ending, she would want to be up in top top, alone, surrounded by her hoard of tat!
i imagine they also think she is utterly deranged, as she raves repeatedly about how at the age of 14, she was such a HUGE fan and her name was on that poster she was showing off the other day, as she had written in with her details and blah blah blah - yet also mentions that she is currently 46, and basic maths highlights that the band didn't form til she was 16, and she was fangirling them to get her name printed on their merch in her early 20s.
one of the guys clearly did NOT want to be there, presumably talked into it as a way to boost publicity as the band has recently reformed, to the point that it is actually worth listening to the episode just to hear him talking the gangs of teen girls who used to scream outside his parent's house and climb into their garden etc, as he certainly doesn't sound like he has a favourable opinion of babs' teenage hobby of stalking boybands. not sure which guy it was, but he sounded a little older and was ranting about influencers and the use of social media, as babs leaps in to say that her job as an "influenza" is IDEAL as a mother of two, because it means she can work from home and never has to leave the house, only for him to respond scathingly, with a reminder that leaving the house is important, as is human social interaction as opposed to spending the day behind a screen - genuinely hilarious to hear babs scrabble trying to say she DOES leave the house, attempting to justify her B&M tat shopping as "werk".