Autistic Interpretations #19 Schizophrenia disguised as Autism with a side of Munchausen by proxy

[Susan830]

No breakfast video on AI but this is posted on DSGP! I will not watch 30 year old women make
bracelets using Taylor Swift songs! Good lord they are absolutely ridiculous! 12-13 year olds do that tit! Not grown woman who should be out working, being in relationships or married and living their best lives. Not living with mommies and doing this tit all day long.
I think we need to check into SSD and see if Hypochondriac Hannah has it. She no longer seems to be doing anything but moping around and lurking in the background of Vals videos! If she does have it it needs to be stopped because she is a huge faker!

 

[grammacloud]

No breakfast video on AI but this is posted on DSGP! I will not watch 30 year old women make
bracelets using Taylor Swift songs! Good lord they are absolutely ridiculous! 12-13 year olds do that tit! Not grown woman who should be out working, being in relationships or married and living their best lives. Not living with mommies and doing this tit all day long.
I think we need to check into SSD and see if Hypochondriac Hannah has it. She no longer seems to be doing anything but moping around and lurking in the background of Vals videos! If she does have it it needs to be stopped because she is a huge faker!

I went against my own advice and looked at DSGP. I skipped through it, and they aren’t making bracelets. They are actually making up brackets like basketball and football teams do for playoffs. I didn’t even have the sound up but once, they were arguing which song was the best. Really, no one needs to watch grown a** women playing around making sheets of paper into bracket playoffs on songs. Really boring content. Just about as bad as making bracelets.

 

[WallFly]

No breakfast video on AI but this is posted on DSGP! I will not watch 30 year old women make
bracelets using Taylor Swift songs! Good lord they are absolutely ridiculous! 12-13 year olds do that tit! Not grown woman who should be out working, being in relationships or married and living their best lives. Not living with mommies and doing this tit all day long.
I think we need to check into SSD and see if Hypochondriac Hannah has it. She no longer seems to be doing anything but moping around and lurking in the background of Vals videos! If she does have it it needs to be stopped because she is a huge faker!

Saw that last night...I agree have ZERO desire to watch Marlo and HH act like 13 year olds. Swifties? No....Idiits!! Yes.

 

[Susan830]

I went against my own advice and looked at DSGP. I skipped through it, and they aren’t making bracelets. They are actually making up brackets like basketball and football teams do for playoffs. I didn’t even have the sound up but once, they were arguing which song was the best. Really, no one needs to watch grown a** women playing around making sheets of paper into bracket playoffs on songs. Really boring content. Just about as bad as making bracelets.

I need to read closer!!! Lol sorry guys but they were with that Taylor and they did that with her once! Once again I will re-read before posting!

 

[rbooth61]

@rbooth61

Those are perfect videos you posted...They give a lot of information and I notice the longer Val talks , feels sorry for herself the more bits of truth come out among the lies.
It's very telling that Jessica use to dress herself, stay home and feed herself, take the bus alone to her job placement...but today she can't stir, or dress herself, or be left alone, etc...

Either Val lied about all that which I doubt...because she did manage to complete nursing school and have a job after she left Campbell, or Jessica s profound regression reaffirms that she does not have autism but something more like an early onset Alzheimer's or she's taken a severe blow to her noggin to cause such a decline that she can't stir flour in a bowl.

Or.....that Val being home 24/7, removing Jessica from ALL professional forms of education , isolating her away from the public ( unless it's Disney in a wheelchair) rocking 35 year old jessica, sleeping with her, bathing/showering her,spoon feeding her chocolate cake, and wiping Jessica's as*, has severely contributed to the regression we see in feeble minded Jessica, too weak to do anything herself, barely able to shuffle around the house lurking outside eavesdropping .

It's perfectly clear what the truth is...we all see it. So Val can play the blame game all she wants She's the problem 100%. Val is a clear case of munchausen by proxy. She is mentally unstable and APS should of interviened long ago.

Her conversations always start out blaming others and then she just contradicts herself the further you get into the discussion. Does she not think people catch her in lie after lie . I posted these videos because they just spoke so much truth to how far Jessica has declined and why she failed at so many programs. The common denominator was either Val making excuses or Nonnie .
Here they move in with Campbell where life should be easier so in return she should be able to focus more time addressing Jessica issues but all she’s done is isolated her even further. Why does Jessica not have an outside advocate who can implement a plan to help set her up for success? But then again Jessica knows how to play the game that if I threaten or hit I win with no consequences.Why does Val keep blocking any chances Jessica could have with excuses ? Every time it’s not her fault they got hit because they should have known to let her princess have what she wanted. What world does she live in that bad behaviors don’t have consequences ? She just keeps blocking every possible chance Jess has to accomplish basic skills . Even at her last program it failed all because Val was lead to believe Jessica would have a cafeteria full of choices or that again is just another excuse at addressing the bigger issue Jessica’s schizophrenia.

Like you said Wallfly it’s Val’s way of keeping everyone out because then they’ll see she’s needs as much help as Jessica mentally. It’s screams Munchausen by proxy and Nonnie is a big player in all of this as well. For some reason I get this feeling there’s some deep dark secrets that started at the Vaughan house when Val was a child and Nonnie is the perpetrator.

 

[Susan830]

Her conversations always start out blaming others and then she just contradicts herself the further you get into the discussion. Does she not think people catch her in lie after lie . I posted these videos because they just spoke so much truth to how far Jessica has declined and why she failed at so many programs. The common denominator was either Val making excuses or Nonnie .
Here they move in with Campbell where life should be easier so in return she should be able to focus more time addressing Jessica issues but all she’s done is isolated her even further. Why does Jessica not have an outside advocate who can implement a plan to help set her up for success? But then again Jessica knows how to play the game that if I threaten or hit I win with no consequences.Why does Val keep blocking any chances Jessica could have with excuses ? Every time it’s not her fault they got hit because they should have known to let her princess have what she wanted. What world does she live in that bad behaviors don’t have consequences ? She just keeps blocking every possible chance Jess has to accomplish basic skills . Even at her last program it failed all because Val was lead to believe Jessica would have a cafeteria full of choices or that again is just another excuse at addressing the bigger issue Jessica’s schizophrenia.

Like you said Wallfly it’s Val’s way of keeping everyone out because then they’ll see she’s needs as much help as Jessica mentally. It’s screams Munchausen by proxy and Nonnie is a big player in all of this as well. For some reason I get this feeling there’s some deep dark secrets that started at the Vaughan house when Val was a child and Nonnie is the perpetrator.

Did you also notice that Val is the Princess when she is with Nonnie? I have never seen Nonnie coddle her other kids or grandchildren! Always just Val and Jessica. You are right, something is up there!

 

[Gramma of 4]

Did you also notice that Val is the Princess when she is with Nonnie? I have never seen Nonnie coddle her other kids or grandchildren! Always just Val and Jessica. You are right, something is up there!

I wonder what the other grandkids think about Jessica having her own room at Nonnie's and that they take her every week. I have 5 grandbabes and I don't play favorites. If one spends the night, they all do. Well except for the 3 month old but ya know what I'm saying. And as far as buying them stuff, I buy them all stuff and they get it at the same time. So Val's other kids came last to Jessica and Nonnie's other grandkids do too. Smh

 

[rbooth61]

@rbooth61

Those are perfect videos you posted...They give a lot of information and I notice the longer Val talks , feels sorry for herself the more bits of truth come out among the lies.
It's very telling that Jessica use to dress herself, stay home and feed herself, take the bus alone to her job placement...but today she can't stir, or dress herself, or be left alone, etc...

Either Val lied about all that which I doubt...because she did manage to complete nursing school and have a job after she left Campbell, or Jessica s profound regression reaffirms that she does not have autism but something more like an early onset Alzheimer's or she's taken a severe blow to her noggin to cause such a decline that she can't stir flour in a bowl.

Or.....that Val being home 24/7, removing Jessica from ALL professional forms of education , isolating her away from the public ( unless it's Disney in a wheelchair) rocking 35 year old jessica, sleeping with her, bathing/showering her,spoon feeding her chocolate cake, and wiping Jessica's as*, has severely contributed to the regression we see in feeble minded Jessica, too weak to do anything herself, barely able to shuffle around the house lurking outside eavesdropping .

It's perfectly clear what the truth is...we all see it. So Val can play the blame game all she wants She's the problem 100%. Val is a clear case of munchausen by proxy. She is mentally unstable and APS should of interviened long ago.

Do you think if the right person was willing to teach Jessica that bad behavior has consequences like taking her phone away etc that she just maybe would have a chance? I mean someone who won’t back down from her threats ? I think maybe if placed in a good live in adult program where Val can’t intervene she could have a chance. It would almost need’s to be that Val loses all rights so Jessica could start with a clean slate. Every failure comes because of Val or Nonnie not allowing any program to address the hard issues. Jessica is a master manipulator so she’s smart enough which shows there is ability there to grow upon. I know none of this will happen unless something happens to Val or she just decides she’s had enough and runs away to Disney .
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Did you also notice that Val is the Princess when she is with Nonnie? I have never seen Nonnie coddle her other kids or grandchildren! Always just Val and Jessica. You are right, something is up there!

Good point and shes actually not really nice to Hannah which is hard for a grandchild within the same household to watch . Considering those kids have been pushed aside their whole lives I would think as a grandparent I would put my focus on them to make them feel special. Look at the time of Covid 2020 the grandfather delivered McDonald’s to Jessica everyday and I don’t remember anything being in the bag for Hannah. Sure Jessica has special needs but all the grandchildren deserve to feel equally loved . Maybe that’s why we don’t see much of her sister Allison .

 

[Susan830]

Do you think if the right person was willing to teach Jessica that bad behavior has consequences like taking her phone away etc that she just maybe would have a chance? I mean someone who won’t back down from her threats ? I think maybe if placed in a good live in adult program where Val can’t intervene she could have a chance. It would almost need’s to be that Val loses all rights so Jessica could start with a clean slate. Every failure comes because of Val or Nonnie not allowing any program to address the hard issues. Jessica is a master manipulator so she’s smart enough which shows there is ability there to grow upon. I know none of this will happen unless something happens to Val or she just decides she’s had enough and runs away to Disney .

They would have to be a strong person because Jessica hits, screams and throws tantrums! Dodge and weave to avoid her! I do believe that Val is getting very sick of her now. All the Mommy I Love You Very Much tit Jess says and the looks, like in the chicken and dumplings video speak volumes. Along with Val just picking up and taking vacations with porn boy and whoever else she keeps a secret! Val is one sick puppy! She needs professional help baby because she is close to snapping. And I want to see it happen!!!
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Oh lordy...DSGP is another one I can't watch! They are going out drinking and playing Taylor Swift trivia because they "Swifties"! Matching t-shirts too!
And the first thing she videos is a drink! I wonder who drives home??? But we know they are introverted and afraid of so much! BS!!! They are sick and need professional help too!

 

[rbooth61]

They would have to be a strong person because Jessica hits, screams and throws tantrums! Dodge and weave to avoid her! I do believe that Val is getting very sick of her now. All the Mommy I Love You Very Much tit Jess says and the looks, like in the chicken and dumplings video speak volumes. Along with Val just picking up and taking vacations with porn boy and whoever else she keeps a secret! Val is one sick puppy! She needs professional help baby because she is close to snapping. And I want to see it happen!!!
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Oh lordy...DSGP is another one I can't watch! They are going out drinking and playing Taylor Swift trivia because they "Swifties"! Matching t-shirts too!
And the first thing she videos is a drink! I wonder who drives home??? But we know they are introverted and afraid of so much! BS!!! They are sick and need professional help too!

Considering Jessica visual limitations and lack of coordination she wouldn’t be a challenge. I say that from 17 yrs experience working with severely disabled adults many with severe behavioral issues. You could literally tire her out by going five feet ahead her and keep up that pace and she would be exhausted from the chase. Or direct her to a safe space til her aggression subsides. Similar to what they do with Cody of Cody Speaks. I think they actually had a special calming room for him. The less you feed into an aggressive outburst it seems to break the aggression. I am sure now that she’s older it should be easier to redirect. But of course with Val babying her it isn’t helpful because she gives in vs any consequences.

 

[Susan830]

Considering Jessica visual limitations and lack of coordination she wouldn’t be a challenge. I say that from 17 yrs experience working with severely disabled adults many with severe behavioral issues. You could literally tire her out by going five feet ahead her and keep up that pace and she would be exhausted from the chase. Or direct her to a safe space til her aggression subsides. Similar to what they do with Cody of Cody Speaks. I think they actually had a special calming room for him. The less you feed into an aggressive outburst it seems to break the aggression. I am sure now that she’s older it should be easier to redirect. But of course with Val babying her it isn’t helpful because she gives in vs any consequences.

I forgot the blindness and those are great ideas. I never had as much one on one as you have with your jobs. I filled in at a friend's group home several years back and we had a couple people who would lash out hitting when they got mad. I could handle the lady but yowser I got hit so hard by the guy I saw stars. He was nicknamed the turtle because of his CP and inability to move very fast...but the guy had no problem moving like the Flash when it came to hitting! I made a decision that day to never get that close to him again. He was short lived in that group home because he was not just hitting staff but other residents as well. And he had parents just like Val. They also just turned away and let him do whatever.

 

[rbooth61]

I forgot the blindness and those are great ideas. I never had as much one on one as you have with your jobs. I filled in at a friend's group home several years back and we had a couple people who would lash out hitting when they got mad. I could handle the lady but yowser I got hit so hard by the guy I saw stars. He was nicknamed the turtle because of his CP and inability to move very fast...but the guy had no problem moving like the Flash when it came to hitting! I made a decision that day to never get that close to him again. He was short lived in that group home because he was not just hitting staff but other residents as well. And he had parents just like Val. They also just turned away and let him do whatever.

I could tell some stories of my many encounters. I worked in a residential ARC setting with 12 individuals that were serve and profoundly disabled. But I do remember one individual who was blind his aggression was severe and after all the behavioral techniques we tried the one that finally worked was us using our voice to redirect him to his bedroom to his bed or a mat to let him vent. Apparently we found his aggression intensified with physical intervention's so redirecting him to a safe place to vent was what worked.

But the problem with Jessica there will never be success in any area of her life because of Val . She’s never dealt out consequences so she definitely wouldn’t let anyone else do it. I remember the time she freaked out because Jessica wasn’t allowed her phone in the classroom. Which I am sure Jessica was using it at inappropriate times calling her mommy so it was taken. All Jessica’s downfalls and behavior outburst are related to that phone or food . There’s no way she should be able to disrupt everyone’s lives at home or vacation over that darn phone. But she does without consequences because Val to lazy to deal with the raft .

 

[HartofTexas]

I think APS got involved and nixed the errands, shopping videos. The caregiver filming for Val’s monetary gain was probably against some rule.

I hope they notify IRS and the state funding

Do you think if the right person was willing to teach Jessica that bad behavior has consequences like taking her phone away etc that she just maybe would have a chance? I mean someone who won’t back down from her threats ? I think maybe if placed in a good live in adult program where Val can’t intervene she could have a chance. It would almost need’s to be that Val loses all rights so Jessica could start with a clean slate. Every failure comes because of Val or Nonnie not allowing any program to address the hard issues. Jessica is a master manipulator so she’s smart enough which shows there is ability there to grow upon. I know none of this will happen unless something happens to Val or she just decides she’s had enough and runs away to Disney .
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Good point and shes actually not really nice to Hannah which is hard for a grandchild within the same household to watch . Considering those kids have been pushed aside their whole lives I would think as a grandparent I would put my focus on them to make them feel special. Look at the time of Covid 2020 the grandfather delivered McDonald’s to Jessica everyday and I don’t remember anything being in the bag for Hannah. Sure Jessica has special needs but all the grandchildren deserve to feel equally loved . Maybe that’s why we don’t see much of her sister Allison .

i think it would be a tough road and would only have any chance IF Val and all family had no contact for a very long time. depends on how much the mental illness has taken over her mind and how much is bad behavior choices. A total evaluation would need to be done and all medications reviewed.
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They would have to be a strong person because Jessica hits, screams and throws tantrums! Dodge and weave to avoid her! I do believe that Val is getting very sick of her now. All the Mommy I Love You Very Much tit Jess says and the looks, like in the chicken and dumplings video speak volumes. Along with Val just picking up and taking vacations with porn boy and whoever else she keeps a secret! Val is one sick puppy! She needs professional help baby because she is close to snapping. And I want to see it happen!!!
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Oh lordy...DSGP is another one I can't watch! They are going out drinking and playing Taylor Swift trivia because they "Swifties"! Matching t-shirts too!
And the first thing she videos is a drink! I wonder who drives home??? But we know they are introverted and afraid of so much! BS!!! They are sick and need professional help too!

Soooooooooo- Cancel the anxious/nervousness they All claim to have when they need an excuse to not go out of the house and reasons for working from home. . . . More lies!

 

[rbooth61]

I hope they notify IRS and the state funding

i think it would be a tough road and would only have any chance IF Val and all family had no contact for a very long time. depends on how much the mental illness has taken over her mind and how much is bad behavior choices. A total evaluation would need to be done and all medications reviewed.

So true because even if two months had passed after aggressive treatment it would all be a waste if Val showed up because we know she would never follow through on a behavior plan. So any success they may have if any would end by Val’s presence. Unfortunately it won’t be far down the road she’ll have to be placed because Val’s getting up there in age and no way Hannah is going to take on her care. It’s quite evident Jessica doesn’t like Hannah and I believe it’s mutual,

 

[Susan830]

I could tell some stories of my many encounters. I worked in a residential ARC setting with 12 individuals that were serve and profoundly disabled. But I do remember one individual who was blind his aggression was severe and after all the behavioral techniques we tried the one that finally worked was us using our voice to redirect him to his bedroom to his bed or a mat to let him vent. Apparently we found his aggression intensified with physical intervention's so redirecting him to a safe place to vent was what worked.

But the problem with Jessica there will never be success in any area of her life because of Val . She’s never dealt out consequences so she definitely wouldn’t let anyone else do it. I remember the time she freaked out because Jessica wasn’t allowed her phone in the classroom. Which I am sure Jessica was using it at inappropriate times calling her mommy so it was taken. All Jessica’s downfalls and behavior outburst are related to that phone or food . There’s no way she should be able to disrupt everyone’s lives at home or vacation over that darn phone. But she does without consequences because Val to lazy to deal with the raft .

I remember when Val was talking about that phone being taken away. Val was pissed and thought Jess should be able to use it! Right there it shows her entitlement! No kid, disabled or not should ever be using their phone to make calls in class. A distraction to the other kids! But I guess that was the Jess can do what she wants entitlement!!! And Val got canned for taking all Jessica’s calls at work!!! Guess that shouldn't have happened either right Val!!! These people make me so sick!

 

[WallFly]

@rbooth61 and

To be honest in my personal opinion, I don't think at this point Jessica would ever be able to regain all the independence and abilities she once had. to

She would absolutely need to be removed from Vals care, 're-evaluated and placed on the proper medications for ALL her issues while monitored closely by professionals .
Val herself would require some type of professional agreement of participation legally binding where she herself would require a mental assessment and ONLY do what the professionals deemed the best for Jessica.
There would need to be a " changing of the guard" so to speak where Val was no longer the primary caregiver of Jessica.

A good adult group home geared towards IDD adults that specializes in adult living situations would be ideal for Jessica...
Properly medicated and away from Val..it's hard to say how Jessica would thrive...but it couldn't be worse than it is now.

 

[888MHBB]

After 30+ years it is now too late for a group home that would accept her. It also would be tragic for Jess. She may not even live through it at this age and this long living as she pleases and getting everything she wants. Val will have to continue putting up with her but Val needs to crack down on her hard…val At this point is the ONLY one that has any chance to sit Jess down and say Things are going to change around here And stick to it no matter the meltdowns! It needs to be done and now!!!!

 

[Susan830]

Tonight's video baked beans that started out with Val and finished by Hypochondriac Hannah. Val burned the onions because according to her the stove eye got to hot!!!! No Val it's because you cook everything on HIGH!
Val was a bit shakey in this video and did the "ummm" alot! Probably needed a drink to get her ready to go to Nonnies and Granddad's for Nonnies birthday dinner.
And again no Jessica!

 

[Cheryl1451]

I really hope everyone is reporting there Facebook videos, Nothing to do with autism.

 

[WallFly]

This must be Vals new format.

3 or 4 VOTM of Jessica making breakfast approximately 3-5 minutes long, and evening videos of what Val is eating for dinner!!

Sooooo....nothing of any real substance...5 years ago Val was making morning videos of Jessica counting out her crispy crowns, pouring envelopes of oatmeal into a bowl and
Being told to stir! Stir! Stir! better for bisquits.
5 years later.... Nothing's changed...Jessica still argues about how much food she wants, asks.. " are you sure it's enough? Are you sure?? " her way of hinting she wants more, still needs to be told to stir..BIG circles.
There's ZERO progression in Jessica in fact as we've seen ...it's all regression.

This channel is a joke...
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After 30+ years it is now too late for a group home that would accept her. It also would be tragic for Jess. She may not even live through it at this age and this long living as she pleases and getting everything she wants. Val will have to continue putting up with her but Val needs to crack down on her hard…val At this point is the ONLY one that has any chance to sit Jess down and say Things are going to change around here And stick to it no matter the meltdowns! It needs to be done and now!!!!

That will never happen.