Anna Bey #6 School of Affluence Fraud

[OffWhite]

From the same comments section: Hi Anna! Today I was invited to dinner for my best friend's birthday, I followed exactly the etiquette rules you mentioned (my friends are not educated enough in these issues) and every single one noticed and said that I eat "like a princess"! I felt so proud about my self and so much confident!! Thank you so much for educating us!!

With such a fanbase, I guess she's right to stay at the most basic level imaginable. You wouldn't want to lose them.

I wonder what kind of slobs is the poor girl friends with. All of my family and friends follow the basic dining etiquette.

 

[laurensanchez]

How often does she go to sweden? I only follow her for the last 3 months or so (familiar with her since her jetset babe blog days although I never read it - it gave me cheap escort vibes)

She never goes to Sweden. I think she went once a year or so.

By the way if you struggle with eating a salad elegantly I just imagine that you and your friends and family just throw the food in a giant pig's trough in the middle of the table, then grab food with your hands.

Which is no bad thing by the way. In many cultures they eat with their hands.

 

[RagazzaSi]

Back to Anna-Banana. I was convinced that she has narcissist disorder, but now I have doubts. Narcissists are known to be hard to handle through therapy, first of all since they are very difficult to drag to the shrink. This is because they are their own enemy (secretly, sometimes so secretly they keep self-hate away from acknowledging it themselves) - all energy goes instead to find the narcissistic supply - in other words - to polish the facade they present to the world. Apart from that, they feel empty or worse, dead inside. Admitting this to themselves is so devastating it would feel like dying to a narc. This is why they avoid psychoanalyst like a plague.

Second thing is narcissists in a relationship leeches on to someone who is co-dependent (their victim). They slowly eat them out until that person loses any sense of what is real and what is not. I can't imagine someone they are with manages to keep a proper career and separate finances. They actively attack any boundaries other person sets. They wouldn't be with someone they can't control and manipulate and they never absolutely never give up. If Anna talks about finances it might seem like a narcissistic rage and a try to humiliate her partner publicly. Narcissists do use humiliation as one of their tool. But if he is the person whom she is hinting he is, it seems to me highly unlikely he would let it all happen.

I definitely don't have an agency to talk from female narc-male codependent as I am more familiar with the opposite sides, but this is my stipulation.

Sorry for the cryptic language, I find it hard to lay out such concepts

 

[Birdseed2]

Back to Anna-Banana. I was convinced that she has narcissist disorder, but now I have doubts. Narcissists are known to be hard to handle through therapy, first of all since they are very difficult to drag to the shrink. This is because they are their own enemy (secretly, sometimes so secretly they keep self-hate away from acknowledging it themselves) - all energy goes instead to find the narcissistic supply - in other words - to polish the facade they present to the world. Apart from that, they feel empty or worse, dead inside. Admitting this to themselves is so devastating it would feel like dying to a narc. This is why they avoid psychoanalyst like a plague.

Second thing is narcissists in a relationship leeches on to someone who is co-dependent (their victim). They slowly eat them out until that person loses any sense of what is real and what is not. I can't imagine someone they are with manages to keep a proper career and separate finances. They actively attack any boundaries other person sets. They wouldn't be with someone they can't control and manipulate and they never absolutely never give up. If Anna talks about finances it might seem like a narcissistic rage and a try to humiliate her partner publicly. Narcissists do use humiliation as one of their tool. But if he is the person whom she is hinting he is, it seems to me highly unlikely he would let it all happen.

I definitely don't have an agency to talk from female narc-male codependent as I am more familiar with the opposite sides, but this is my stipulation.

Sorry for the cryptic language, I find it hard to lay out such concepts

I doubt she tells the therapist all this lies that she’s creating. So who knows what is her DX. Maybe she’a histrionic or borderline.

 

[Renata]

I understand what you mean.
But the grammar can be confusing depending what your mother tongue is and how many languages you speak. I know people who speak 5-7 languages and some find English difficult. NGL it can get confusing.

Why can’t she use a copywriter? It’s really lazy of her to con her audience like this. You’re running a “school” at least get your words out properly. She is just so lazy it’s unbelievable. She wants a lazy life (at someone else expense) and cannot be bothered to make any effort to get it.

I find her disgusting.
Learn English - you escort!

 

[Buf728]

Back to Anna-Banana. I was convinced that she has narcissist disorder, but now I have doubts. Narcissists are known to be hard to handle through therapy, first of all since they are very difficult to drag to the shrink. This is because they are their own enemy (secretly, sometimes so secretly they keep self-hate away from acknowledging it themselves) - all energy goes instead to find the narcissistic supply - in other words - to polish the facade they present to the world. Apart from that, they feel empty or worse, dead inside. Admitting this to themselves is so devastating it would feel like dying to a narc. This is why they avoid psychoanalyst like a plague.

Second thing is narcissists in a relationship leeches on to someone who is co-dependent (their victim). They slowly eat them out until that person loses any sense of what is real and what is not. I can't imagine someone they are with manages to keep a proper career and separate finances. They actively attack any boundaries other person sets. They wouldn't be with someone they can't control and manipulate and they never absolutely never give up. If Anna talks about finances it might seem like a narcissistic rage and a try to humiliate her partner publicly. Narcissists do use humiliation as one of their tool. But if he is the person whom she is hinting he is, it seems to me highly unlikely he would let it all happen.

I definitely don't have an agency to talk from female narc-male codependent as I am more familiar with the opposite sides, but this is my stipulation.

Sorry for the cryptic language, I find it hard to lay out such concepts

I have experience in this area (sorry for the vagueness but would rather stay as anonymous as possible!) and some do come to therapy. It seems like a weird paradox but a lot deep down recognise their flaws and are deeply insecure about them, and so are actively trying to improve. That way, they can emulate their own portrayal of grandeur. However, it’s all on their terms - if a therapist was to say something they deemed critical, then they may not try as hard to work on it if they view it as an attack. There has been debate on previous threads as to whether Anna actually goes to therapy as much as she says (and she certainly doesn’t seem to have improved much) which may follow some traits of the narcissist.

Also, they are very very focused on how they are portrayed, even if they know it’s completely fake. Her image is extremely important, probably the most important thing to her, and she likes to portray him as a very rich man. By hiding him away, it helps uphold this illusion. Idk what goes on behind closed doors in their relationship, so we can only speculate. However, I would actually say a lot of the signs of how she acts from her public persona still point to narcissistic traits. She appears very difficult to deal with, won’t listen to criticism, has anger issues, and is constantly controlling the narrative. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was also this way at home.

 

[laurensanchez]

I have experience in this area (sorry for the vagueness but would rather stay as anonymous as possible!) and some do come to therapy. It seems like a weird paradox but a lot deep down recognise their flaws and are deeply insecure about them, and so are actively trying to improve. That way, they can emulate their own portrayal of grandeur. However, it’s all on their terms - if a therapist was to say something they deemed critical, then they may not try as hard to work on it if they view it as an attack. There has been debate on previous threads as to whether Anna actually goes to therapy as much as she says (and she certainly doesn’t seem to have improved much) which may follow some traits of the narcissist.

Also, they are very very focused on how they are portrayed, even if they know it’s completely fake. Her image is extremely important, probably the most important thing to her, and she likes to portray him as a very rich man. By hiding him away, it helps uphold this illusion. Idk what goes on behind closed doors in their relationship, so we can only speculate. However, I would actually say a lot of the signs of how she acts from her public persona still point to narcissistic traits. She appears very difficult to deal with, won’t listen to criticism, has anger issues, and is constantly controlling the narrative. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was also this way at home.

Poor Joseph. But honestly can't feel sorry for him. He has to know what she has been doing and it shows that his ethics and morals are really poor. Or who knows, maybe she has cast a spell on him. If I was one of his clients reading this I'd feel ill.

 

[Birdseed2]

I have experience in this area (sorry for the vagueness but would rather stay as anonymous as possible!) and some do come to therapy. It seems like a weird paradox but a lot deep down recognise their flaws and are deeply insecure about them, and so are actively trying to improve. That way, they can emulate their own portrayal of grandeur. However, it’s all on their terms - if a therapist was to say something they deemed critical, then they may not try as hard to work on it if they view it as an attack. There has been debate on previous threads as to whether Anna actually goes to therapy as much as she says (and she certainly doesn’t seem to have improved much) which may follow some traits of the narcissist.

Also, they are very very focused on how they are portrayed, even if they know it’s completely fake. Her image is extremely important, probably the most important thing to her, and she likes to portray him as a very rich man. By hiding him away, it helps uphold this illusion. Idk what goes on behind closed doors in their relationship, so we can only speculate. However, I would actually say a lot of the signs of how she acts from her public persona still point to narcissistic traits. She appears very difficult to deal with, won’t listen to criticism, has anger issues, and is constantly controlling the narrative. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was also this way at home.

If it’s anything like her usual M.O. probably she went for six sessions then stretch it out to seem like six years.

 

[RagazzaSi]

However, I would actually say a lot of the signs of how she acts from her public persona still point to narcissistic traits. She appears very difficult to deal with, won’t listen to criticism, has anger issues, and is constantly controlling the narrative. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was also this way at home.

Yes, I believe narcissists are all taking it from home - they can't be loved for whom they are but for whom someone wants them to be.

If she has actually has Jungian (or you call it Freudian??) slips (meaning that some words or sentences a person slip out to portray a true state of their mind- I believe) I suggest we take a drinking game taking shot every time she says "truly"! <WARNING! no one would survive a single of any of her videos LOL>

Perhaps the fave for that word conveys deep longing to cut out of all that pretense crap, to be truthful to oneself, to the world, to owns destiny, to one's mission. Or is to take us all in the entirely opposite direction.

I don't watch her videos now for a long time they give me such a bad vibe I have to go watch kittens afterward. Can someone count all the truly in a random video so I can prepare shot glasses?

 

[SaltyCaramelTart]

I wonder what kind of slobs is the poor girl friends with. All of my family and friends follow the basic dining etiquette.

Same here, although that's high society by Aija's reckoning
Maybe I should do a "how to muck out like an elegant lady" tutorial

 

[laurensanchez]

Same here, although that's high society by Aija's reckoning
Maybe I should do a "how to muck out like an elegant lady" tutorial

But the irony of it all, is that in the video she said even the affluent make these mistakes. So why are you learning these ridiculous "rules" since it won't impress the so-called affluent anyway?

For me the primary purpose of dining etiquette is not to make the people at the table with you uncomfortable. If I notice someone using the dessert spoon for their soup, do I titter and gossip about them when dinner ends or loudly announce to the table "Oh dear, look at Henry, he seems to want to have dessert early mwah ha ha" *in my best Kings Road, Made in Chelsea accent*?

Or as a gracious person do I ignore, since it has nothing whatsoever to do with me and does not affect my dining experience in the slightest!

That person who uses the wrong spoon can probably buy and sell a dozen of Anna. Note we still have never seen her at a single affluent gathering, charity event, ffs even a chicken fight. She is practicing these skills and no one even invites her anywhere Not even her fellow IVP students want to be seen with her

 

[SchoolOfAffluenceIsAScam]

But the irony of it all, is that in the video she said even the affluent make these mistakes. So why are you learning these ridiculous "rules" since it won't impress the so-called affluent anyway?

For me the primary purpose of dining etiquette is not to make the people at the table with you uncomfortable. If I notice someone using the dessert spoon for their soup, do I titter and gossip about them when dinner ends or loudly announce to the table "Oh dear, look at Henry, he seems to want to have dessert early mwah ha ha" *in my best Kings Road, Made in Chelsea accent*?

Or as a gracious person do I ignore, since it has nothing whatsoever to do with me and does not affect my dining experience in the slightest!

That person who uses the wrong spoon can probably buy and sell a dozen of Anna. Note we still have never seen her at a single affluent gathering, charity event, ffs even a chicken fight. She is practicing these skills and no one even invites her anywhere Not even her fellow IVP students want to be seen with her

What I was taught was, if someone fucks up then make sure they are at ease. They are already embarrassed enough when they realise they've messed up and you are not assisting by making it more noticeable. Join them in not doing things according to etiquette or make sure they don't notice. But those rules doesn't apply when they are your child QAQ

I would also blend in and eat the same way as my surroundings even though it would be incorrect according to the rules of etiquette, but you have to remember that those "rules" are more guidelines than anything and are different depending on social group, situation etc. "when in rome do as the romans do"

BTW IDK what they teach at IVP, but that is my take.

 

[schokolade]

How pitiful, she is a 34-year-old scammer who apparently has no single wall in her place that she could use as a film background. Sounds pretty much like my very first student flat which was basically a shoe box. Oh wait, even there I could make nice photo backgrounds with a little effort!

I have very strong doubts that she even is with the banker anymore. My scenario is: Joe got fed up with her during the lockdown and gave her some months before he kicks her out. So Anna came up with her scam course, which she produced after she got the registrations. Then she moved to a little single box or a shared flat where she has a room. On one side of the room she has her Ikea closet and other side everything else.
Just speculations, ladies But I don't believe a second her flat is fancy. And privacy my ass, you don't have to show the whole flat when you make a video! I wouldn't be comfortable with making a full flat tour either, but there still are plenty of options for film backgrounds.

 

[Gingersnap 29]

I just can't get over how dumb Anna's broke followers are in her free "elegant ladies lounge." Asking each other the most idiotic questions like whether crime is elegant. Bragging about cheating in school. Of course you had to cheat in school because you're dumb enough to worship everything Anna says, 75% of which could be googled or just common sense.

 

[Shekshouka]

Thank you so much! I am so impressed with your recommendations - I heard that Korean cosmetics are probably leaders in the world, but I have no orientation there so I appreciate it so much more!! Also, I wanted to bring some type of Vit. A and I did hear about Retin-A, though I didn't go ahead to buy it. I was confused by different recommendation as from the beautician, the esthetic med doctor but they all talk about the need to make the skin denser. Your approach sounds very well researched and I imagine you must look so glamourous with your dewy skin (not to mention your PR job sounds so glamourous too!! ).

I am really excited with the wait- I went straight for a shopping spree and purchased the Pyukang Yul, Retin-A (it's by prescription but someone was just reselling it on ebay), Timeless. I love your SPF recommendations - the Mermaid has even gel form which sounds absolutely wonderful! I will go on to read reviews and more on your new finds too!

I dug lactic acid serum (11%) that I already have in the forgotten section. Haha, when planning new house I will need to ask the architect to consider a side lab in the bathroom.

I know it's Monday so you must be busy, but if you would find a minute next weekend to let me know how to use the retin-A - just on the washed skin, no essences, tonics ect. (I am asking because by now I am used to put so much stuff on layer by layer, LOL)

Also, do you use one serum at a time for lets say a week, and then you switch to another?

My thanks to you again - and also to you wonderful ladies who helped me with the clothing and dental-related decisions! I am so grateful to you and for finding this thread <3

Advice for Retin-A:
- always use in the evenings

1) wash face with your usual cleanser
2) dry face with towel or some dermatologists advocate you should allow face to dry naturally and avoid using towels
3) apply Retin-A to your whole face (minus areas with thin skin eg around the eyes, just under the nose)
4) you can add an occlusive eg Vaseline in areas of thin skin whcih you don’t want retain-A to penetrate
5) wait 10-15 mins then add your favourite moisturiser

in the mornings after cleansing your face, some like to put on vitamin C before they apply their moisturiser too, to brighten the face.
important thing to remember: you MUST apply SPF50 on your face and neck if you use retin-A as it increases your sensitivity of your skin and risk of sunburn. Reapply SPF50 throughout the day too.

choices for retin-A:
Dermatologist prescribed tretinoin which comes in variety of doses ranging from 0.025-0.1% - this has been proven in literature to have anti ageing effects when used consistently
Adapalene 0.1% (brand name Differin) you can buy over the counter - whilst this hasn’t been shown in literature to have anti ageing effects like tretinoin, it’s still a retinoid and is very very effective for treating spots and acne

another thing to remember with retin-A:you will initially get a “purge” where in the first couple of weeks your skin will look worse ie break out in spots before it gets better

 

[SaltyCaramelTart]

What I was taught was, if someone fucks up then make sure they are at ease. They are already embarrassed enough when they realise they've messed up and you are not assisting by making it more noticeable. Join them in not doing things according to etiquette or make sure they don't notice. But those rules doesn't apply when they are your child QAQ

I would also blend in and eat the same way as my surroundings even though it would be incorrect according to the rules of etiquette, but you have to remember that those "rules" are more guidelines than anything and are different depending on social group, situation etc. "when in rome do as the romans do"

BTW IDK what they teach at IVP, but that is my take.

The one time someone took issue with me taking the wrong glass, it was an escort slightly older than me shagging a married man who had children older than her. She had nothing to do with me, but felt the need to tut so loudly that I could hear from my table and so pointedly that my then boyfriend knew whom it was aimed at.

Imagine the insecurity!

 

[SchoolOfAffluenceIsAScam]

How pitiful, she is a 34-year-old scammer who apparently has no single wall in her place that she could use as a film background. Sounds pretty much like my very first student flat which was basically a shoe box. Oh wait, even there I could make nice photo backgrounds with a little effort!

I have very strong doubts that she even is with the banker anymore. My scenario is: Joe got fed up with her during the lockdown and gave her some months before he kicks her out. So Anna came up with her scam course, which she produced after she got the registrations. Then she moved to a little single box or a shared flat where she has a room. On one side of the room she has her Ikea closet and other side everything else.
Just speculations, ladies But I don't believe a second her flat is fancy. And privacy my ass, you don't have to show the whole flat when you make a video! I wouldn't be comfortable with making a full flat tour either, but there still are plenty of options for film backgrounds.

Some of her prior videos looks greenscreened, new apartment doesn't have enough space for that? JK

 

[laurensanchez]

The one time someone took issue with me taking the wrong glass, it was an escort slightly older than me shagging a married man who had children older than her. She had nothing to do with me, but felt the need to tut so loudly that I could hear from my table and so pointedly that my then boyfriend knew whom it was aimed at.

Imagine the insecurity!

Can I ask what your boyfriend thought? Because the men really notice these things - not our manners - but they notice insecure women who are bitchy to others.

I just can't get over how dumb Anna's broke followers are in her free "elegant ladies lounge." Asking each other the most idiotic questions like whether crime is elegant. Bragging about cheating in school. Of course you had to cheat in school because you're dumb enough to worship everything Anna says, 75% of which could be googled or just common sense.

I hope their teachers and associates get to know of their low morals. Disgusting creatures.

 

[SchoolOfAffluenceIsAScam]

The one time someone took issue with me taking the wrong glass, it was an escort slightly older than me shagging a married man who had children older than her. She had nothing to do with me, but felt the need to tut so loudly that I could hear from my table and so pointedly that my then boyfriend knew whom it was aimed at.

Imagine the insecurity!

I can already admit that selfish 3-year old me was furious when one of my friends took the wrong glass, because that was MY JUICE. My mother gave me an ass-whopping when my friends left and almost disowned me + no juice for the rest of the month. She basically said that if someone accidentally does that, then you aren't drinking juice for the rest of the meal in a formal setting and the only reason she let it slide was because it was in an informal gathering. She also told me to ask for another glass next time

But my friend was sitting besides me at that meal, and I was 3, I can't imagine someone doing it from across the room.

 

[BringThePopcornX]

Advice for Retin-A:
- always use in the evenings

1) wash face with your usual cleanser
2) dry face with towel or some dermatologists advocate you should allow face to dry naturally and avoid using towels
3) apply Retin-A to your whole face (minus areas with thin skin eg around the eyes, just under the nose)
4) you can add an occlusive eg Vaseline in areas of thin skin whcih you don’t want retain-A to penetrate
5) wait 10-15 mins then add your favourite moisturiser

in the mornings after cleansing your face, some like to put on vitamin C before they apply their moisturiser too, to brighten the face.
important thing to remember: you MUST apply SPF50 on your face and neck if you use retin-A as it increases your sensitivity of your skin and risk of sunburn. Reapply SPF50 throughout the day too.

choices for retin-A:
Dermatologist prescribed tretinoin which comes in variety of doses ranging from 0.025-0.1% - this has been proven in literature to have anti ageing effects when used consistently
Adapalene 0.1% (brand name Differin) you can buy over the counter - whilst this hasn’t been shown in literature to have anti ageing effects like tretinoin, it’s still a retinoid and is very very effective for treating spots and acne

another thing to remember with retin-A:you will initially get a “purge” where in the first couple of weeks your skin will look worse ie break out in spots before it gets better

Great points!

On the discussion about Retin-A I’d like to add: you shouldn’t be pregnant or nursing when using them. Preferably you should already stop a while before getting pregnant. I love Retin-A but haven’t used it for a looong time due to that.