Alice Evans & Ioan Gruffudd #280 To be or not to be, that is The.

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welp said:
definitely a flight within North America then
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I was thinking she could have flown out earlier and posted about it from her new destination?

Bingo mentioned Bianca’s story appearing at an odd time on Saturday and also Bianca commented that Bubba was already owning the town they were in which is an odd comment if they had just gotten there but who knows?

It’s such slow news on here 🤣

Very surprised Alice hasn’t told everyone to get out and vote today. A missed opportunity for her to appear to be a bastion of democracy and also tell others what to do!
 
scantysandwich said:
I was thinking she could have flown out earlier and posted about it from her new destination?

Bingo mentioned Bianca’s story appearing at an odd time on Saturday and also Bianca commented that Bubba was already owning the town they were in which is an odd comment if they had just gotten there but who knows?

It’s such slow news on here 🤣

Very surprised Alice hasn’t told everyone to get out and vote today. A missed opportunity for her to appear to be a bastion of democracy and also tell others what to do!
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Are you talking about the Famous socialist Alcie “doesn’t pay taxes” Evans. If she is luck Trump will win and not paying taxes could be legal. duck the people who actually rely on state support to live in houses outside of Beverley Hills.
 
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kingseven said:
I’m holding out for a YoBee grid post today with a late declaration of support for VP Harris 🇺🇲
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Won't happen. IG never wanted to be political publicly. It was AFE who badgered him into that.

At work today I heard of a mum who got a week in prison for breaching court orders to let the dad see the kids. hmmm. Normally the UK is much softer with putting people in prison but CA family courts are such joke with the likes of mAlice. A week in prison was just what she needed but too late now.
 
taybridge said:
Can we stop slagging off Ella! We have no idea what her life is like, it's all speculation as she certainly doesn't post much about her life from what snippets are given here. She might well hate Alice, but if she is anything like me at the age of 15, would grab anything that is offered, including tickets to see my favourite popstar. She was pushed into making a huge mistake with her court action against Ioan and Bianca by her mother who we know is an abuser. I would hate to be judged by something that happened when I was 13, especially as Alice is the real villian here, not her daughter. I am happy to judge her when she leaves the home which should happen in the next three or four years. Even then I will give her some space to find her own voice. If when she is about 22-3 after being away from Alice for some years, and she is still not reconciled with Ioan, then I might judge her.
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100%. I’ve been saying this all along. Ella is a kid. She’s in the midst of puberty, her brain is refolding and trimming and rewiring, she’s been subjected to an incredibly successful, stressful, painful manipulation campaign, had to deal with Malice’s shenanigans and denigration of her father all through her childhood, had to deal with the vicious old lush these past three (nearly four? Is it already four?) years, been brainwashed and coerced, weaponised against her father, hearing about adult things like ‘BAYBEEZ, we’re out of money and we’ll end up on the STREETS!’ from bloody Fanny Flaps when there’s not a damned thing she can do about it, has been isolated from society, taken away from her friends, used like a guided missile in court and for the papers, alternately Golden Childed and backburnered when she isn’t performing like a circus animal… she’s a kid. A kid who’s been through hell. Anyone who is judging her by adult standards and think she’s capable of rational, mature thought and grownup decision-making in the midst of all this is being a bit of a dummy, frankly. And should pick up a developmental psychology book and bloody well read it.
If she’s a mini Malice at 25, when her brain has finished developing and she’s hopefully out of the house and has heard other perspectives but behaves like an hole regardless, I’ll condemn her. But not now.
 
Autisteuse said:
100%. I’ve been saying this all along. Ella is a kid. She’s in the midst of puberty, her brain is refolding and trimming and rewiring, she’s been subjected to an incredibly successful, stressful, painful manipulation campaign, had to deal with Malice’s shenanigans and denigration of her father all through her childhood, had to deal with the vicious old lush these past three (nearly four? Is it already four?) years, been brainwashed and coerced, weaponised against her father, hearing about adult things like ‘BAYBEEZ, we’re out of money and we’ll end up on the STREETS!’ from bloody Fanny Flaps when there’s not a damned thing she can do about it, has been isolated from society, taken away from her friends, used like a guided missile in court and for the papers, alternately Golden Childed and backburnered when she isn’t performing like a circus animal… she’s a kid. A kid who’s been through hell. Anyone who is judging her by adult standards and think she’s capable of rational, mature thought and grownup decision-making in the midst of all this is being a bit of a dummy, frankly. And should pick up a developmental psychology book and bloody well read it.
If she’s a mini Malice at 25, when her brain has finished developing and she’s hopefully out of the house and has heard other perspectives but behaves like an hole regardless, I’ll condemn her. But not now.
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The way I see it is that if you have even the slightest shred of sympathy for IG, you have to have a big old slice of sympathy for those girls. If he couldn't hack it as an adult, imagine what those kids are going through.

Before anyone says it, yes - he was a bit naive to think that she was just going to let him have access to them like a normal human being. Unfortunately, my experience of genuinely good people is that they spend a lot of time very shocked by what utter cunts people can be.
 
Autisteuse said:
100%. I’ve been saying this all along. Ella is a kid. She’s in the midst of puberty, her brain is refolding and trimming and rewiring, she’s been subjected to an incredibly successful, stressful, painful manipulation campaign, had to deal with Malice’s shenanigans and denigration of her father all through her childhood, had to deal with the vicious old lush these past three (nearly four? Is it already four?) years, been brainwashed and coerced, weaponised against her father, hearing about adult things like ‘BAYBEEZ, we’re out of money and we’ll end up on the STREETS!’ from bloody Fanny Flaps when there’s not a damned thing she can do about it, has been isolated from society, taken away from her friends, used like a guided missile in court and for the papers, alternately Golden Childed and backburnered when she isn’t performing like a circus animal… she’s a kid. A kid who’s been through hell. Anyone who is judging her by adult standards and think she’s capable of rational, mature thought and grownup decision-making in the midst of all this is being a bit of a dummy, frankly. And should pick up a developmental psychology book and bloody well read it.
If she’s a mini Malice at 25, when her brain has finished developing and she’s hopefully out of the house and has heard other perspectives but behaves like an hole regardless, I’ll condemn her. But not now.
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Well said and 100% agree.
 
scantysandwich said:
I was thinking she could have flown out earlier and posted about it from her new destination?

Bingo mentioned Bianca’s story appearing at an odd time on Saturday and also Bianca commented that Bubba was already owning the town they were in which is an odd comment if they had just gotten there but who knows?

It’s such slow news on here 🤣

Very surprised Alice hasn’t told everyone to get out and vote today. A missed opportunity for her to appear to be a bastion of democracy and also tell others what to do!
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I'd be surprised if Alice voted, you have to leave the house to do so, unless she submitted an absentee ballot.
 
I like how she is proving how much her fanatical political campaigning was pure virtue signalling. She made zero impact back then since she was just speaking into a echo chamber. her few fans were pretty much all democrats already. now she has a lot more fans (and fanatical ones that may be swayed by their idol) and a lot of Trump supporters among them, and this time Trump would be a lot more powerful than last time if he'd win, so if you think he is a danger you would now even more try to fight against it. and now where she could perhaps make some small difference she stayed all the way silent...and she was daring to complain that Ioan (and others) was scared to lose his fans if he would spread his political opinions.

PS: I btw support actors to keep out of politics beyond vote awarness, so in isolation I'm fine with her current approach, and humans have a right to learn from mistakes, but just thought this was funny, and tragic since her approach last time likely contributed to their marriage breakdown
 
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