Alice Evans & Ioan Gruffudd #280 To be or not to be, that is The.

[Bridgeofsighs]

You can’t hear Alice cackling in the background, so maybe big E went with friends??

Maybe if it was LA but this was New Orleans apparently. It's obvious why AFE is keeping quiet about this. It doesn't fit the 'abject poverty' narrative she's pushing. Welp worked out that the last time a concert was posted for a Kpop band the tickets were a thousand given how close to the stage they were. If they flew to NO there's flights and hotels to pay for too. AFE still has her stash obviously.

In case there's anyone on here who thinks she will move on from her 4 year tantrum about a bog standard divorce....

Yes Ioan shouldn't have been allowed to divorce wreak havoc on his abuser and the kids. Of course, she includes them in this with 'our'. It's not even a 'tragic life event' ie his death, which by the way, Alice would have much preferred. It really eats her up that IG and BW have a good life together despite her best efforts to split them up.
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makes me think it being hatched behind closed doors. Without a doubt it will backfire horrendously

I don't think so. AFE made a fool of herself and tarnished Ella's reputation publicly with the attempted DVRO application. Would Ella be such a willing tool of yet another farce? I don't think so, she's older and hopefully wiser. AFE is running out of options and I'm here for it.

 

[Ally Pally]

Alice can hardly admit she's paid thousands for Ella in concert tickets then in the next breath witch about paying a few measly hundreds of dollars for delayed medical treatment for Elsie!

 

[BingoFlamingo]

I wonder who paid for a trip to New Orleans. Hmm. Don’t get me wrong I am thrilled she got (a) away and (b) did something fun - and hopefully without her mother. Maybe Ioan contributed. I’m pleased she got out of the house though. Good for her.
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But yes it doesn’t match the “I can’t pay for my
Babeeeeez” narrative.

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

Maybe Ioan contributed

Maybe a delayed birthday gift?

 

[welp]

See I don't ever see them reconciling, I think the alienation has been so indoctrinated that it'll take a miracle to undo.
I'm also going to call it now that the 'big news' that Alice claims is going to make our heads spin/explode is Ella lodging a civil complaint about Ioan for monetary compensation, claiming wrongful imprisonment (taking them against their will to his apartment and failing to seek medical attention (when she pretended to be unable to breathe and was hyperventilating and when she stuck her arm in the door jamb purposely to injure herself).
Bianca won't escape from also being accused of assault, and Judge Josh having a complaint lodged for failing to protect Ella by not giving her the restraining order.
Alice has been dropping little bombs about Ella's mental health and how she has anxiety etc.. unable to get into a car needing driverless Ubers... Also suffering from a fear of crowds but is able to go to crowded concerts and other venues
There's a reason why Ella doesn't post her concert attendance and a reason why Alice posts her driverless Ubers
Of course none of this will be actioned until after the financial settlement is rubber stamped.
I could of course be barking up the wrong tree but I really don't think I am. Happy to be proved wrong on this but it's puzzling me why Ghastly Ashley has removed posts claiming the above was going to happen in the near future
Of course It won't pass muster in court but it's not about that, it's about damaging Ioan and Bianca and their professional reputations and continuing the abuse by litigation.
I see you Alice

I suspect something similar, although more that this is what Alice pushes for if her plan to set Ioan up by forcing unsupervised visits continues to fail. Ella strikes me as relatively private (for a teenager of celeb kids she is, sans the insane public stunts she pulled against her ATM) and she certainly regrets doing what she did because it made her look bad and it didnt achieve what they thought it would, I think she would need to buy Ella's committment to yet another stunt and sell her why this time it certainly will work (this time it would even come with a big payday)

I think the kids will come to him in a few years when mom has no money for them because she doesn't work, and they'll want to spend Christmas or the holidays somewhere where they aren't guilt tripped or harassed by a crazy narc. At the minute they've been conditioned to put up with her but that dam will burst at some point and they'll want to get away.

I've read a viral story on reddit a while ago where a father was having a frosty relationship to his daughter well into adulthood after he divorced his wife. Then his daughters boyfriend contacted him to ask him if he can marry her, which surprised him, but the boyfriend said it was important to her. Over this they patched up their relationship seemingly. And he even agreed to pay the deposit and installments for the wedding. One day he was alerted by a relative of a IG post the daughter had made from her engagement party (which he didnt know was happening), a picture of her with her stepfather that was captioned something like "you are proof that blood doesn't matter, you are the real father that stepped up, and I am so proud that you will walk me down the aisle" or something like that. Needless to say the father then refused to pay further installments for the wedding and told the stepfather when the next installment is due since he is the "real father", they were obviously all mad about it.

obviously no two stories are the same and I could be very wrong, but this is the reason why he should push that any reunification has nothing to do with the perks of him having supposedly more money to afford nice things (like a nice house, holidays, concerts etc., I mean these things are pure fantasy anyway, because he cant even be in the same room with them without having to fear that something will happen, he will certainly have trust issues all his life after what they tried to do with him over the RO), but that they genuinely want to be around him. I mean it already is happening: he has been crazy generous and is still treated like tit. This may never change (especially the eldest, because everything we heard about her points to her viewing him the same way Alice viewed him, alone that Universal text message revealed quite a lot about how much she actually cares to see him, the sister seems different), they have been programmed all their lifes to see him as an ATM, so it's difficult to undo this. it depends on loads of factors, including how long Alice can meet their needs (no matter if over Ioan's money or with the help of strangers) and unfortunately many of those scenarios require their lifes probably to become so bad that Ioan certainly prefers to stay estranged over this happening. It's all very sad for him, but it's a much better scenario than still having Alice in your life and to be exploited. But I think he has realized this by now.

That bill amount has been the same for ages now, not more, not less. That's more fishy than the premium delivery of it.

think those who track it say it increases once per month by $300, I think this was 4 weeks ago

 

[screamin.lisa]

See I don't ever see them reconciling, I think the alienation has been so indoctrinated that it'll take a miracle to undo.
I'm also going to call it now that the 'big news' that Alice claims is going to make our heads spin/explode is Ella lodging a civil complaint about Ioan for monetary compensation, claiming wrongful imprisonment (taking them against their will to his apartment and failing to seek medical attention (when she pretended to be unable to breathe and was hyperventilating and when she stuck her arm in the door jamb purposely to injure herself).
Bianca won't escape from also being accused of assault, and Judge Josh having a complaint lodged for failing to protect Ella by not giving her the restraining order.
Alice has been dropping little bombs about Ella's mental health and how she has anxiety etc.. unable to get into a car needing driverless Ubers... Also suffering from a fear of crowds but is able to go to crowded concerts and other venues
There's a reason why Ella doesn't post her concert attendance and a reason why Alice posts her driverless Ubers
Of course none of this will be actioned until after the financial settlement is rubber stamped.
I could of course be barking up the wrong tree but I really don't think I am. Happy to be proved wrong on this but it's puzzling me why Ghastly Ashley has removed posts claiming the above was going to happen in the near future
Of course It won't pass muster in court but it's not about that, it's about damaging Ioan and Bianca and their professional reputations and continuing the abuse by litigation.
I see you Alice

I don’t seem him reconciling with Ella but I do with Elsie. And yes, I am sure mAlice is cooking up something nasty to do to I & B.

 

[Treacletrixter]

The only way to avoid getting dragged into Alice’s mad schemes is to have nothing to do with her at all ever. If she has some avenue into your life never mind two claws in your back she is going to either love bomb, guilt or harass and berate you into submission. Ella will either have to walk away or do what Alice wants. Ella burnt her bridges with Ioan and really she has no one to turn to because neither he or the wider family can trust her.

 

[kingseven]

I think this was a move on Judge Josh’s part to make Ella aware she was being used as a pawn and hopefully prevent a repeat of the sham RO.

 

[Ally Pally]

I think this was a move on Judge Josh’s part to make Ella aware she was being used as a pawn and hopefully prevent a repeat of the sham RO.


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She was like a lamb to the slaughter and all because of her so called Mother's thirst for revenge. I'm sick of seeing it stated that Ioan took Ella to court when it was Ella on Alice's behalf who instigated the whole court case too.

 

[sweetnessfollows]

fwiw, it's great that the oldest daughter got to see Taylor Swift and be a regular teenager. I hope the mass screaming and crying and all around show bizness of the whole thing helps ease whatever horror is happening with malice as her mother.

That the daughter posted it seems like a giant duck off to Alice.

Here is Alice crying that she has no money, no support, no anything. And tickets would have cost a lot and now the public knows it. That money - where ever it came from - could go towards rent or food or school supplies (because certainly kids in Beverly Hills are the lowest and most desperate school children in the country, there is no one who would have given the daughter the basics needed for her education).

They have money to burn, obviously.

 

[Ninas purse]

See I don't ever see them reconciling, I think the alienation has been so indoctrinated that it'll take a miracle to undo.
I'm also going to call it now that the 'big news' that Alice claims is going to make our heads spin/explode is Ella lodging a civil complaint about Ioan for monetary compensation, claiming wrongful imprisonment (taking them against their will to his apartment and failing to seek medical attention (when she pretended to be unable to breathe and was hyperventilating and when she stuck her arm in the door jamb purposely to injure herself).
Bianca won't escape from also being accused of assault, and Judge Josh having a complaint lodged for failing to protect Ella by not giving her the restraining order.
Alice has been dropping little bombs about Ella's mental health and how she has anxiety etc.. unable to get into a car needing driverless Ubers... Also suffering from a fear of crowds but is able to go to crowded concerts and other venues
There's a reason why Ella doesn't post her concert attendance and a reason why Alice posts her driverless Ubers
Of course none of this will be actioned until after the financial settlement is rubber stamped.
I could of course be barking up the wrong tree but I really don't think I am. Happy to be proved wrong on this but it's puzzling me why Ghastly Ashley has removed posts claiming the above was going to happen in the near future
Of course It won't pass muster in court but it's not about that, it's about damaging Ioan and Bianca and their professional reputations and continuing the abuse by litigation.
I see you Alice

Yes please Malice, file that civil complaint. Since Ella is still a minor, Alice will have to file it on her behalf. Then if it even gets past a motion to dismiss challenge, that Discovery process is going to be glorious and I am here for it all. Show me a lawyer that will take that case and how is she going to fund it.

Ioan is done with her. In 3years her child support will half and in 7 years he will be completely done with paying CS. She's got nothing. She's just blowing smoke out her ass. Stick a fork in her, she's done.

 

[Loveu2]

Is this what she calls it?

 

[UncoveredLurker]

Malice so badly wants to be bereaved. Because bereaved parents get sympathy, support and some times - money.

I’m a widow. My husband died last year (I posted it so nothing new). It broke my heart. I’m utterly broken and my whole world is so irregular still. The children and I are attempting to navigate our new normal.

And I’d still rather be me than that lying scheming lazy witch Alice.

Because I live in the knowledge that my husband loved me. I have a raft of support from friends and family and even made wonderful new young widow friends who’ve guided me through.

And I’ve continued to live. Get promotions, send the kids on good holidays and support myself financially. Has it been easy? No. It’s the hardest thing I’ll ever do.

But I’m living. And moving forward. Something Alice fails repeatedly to do.

Any civil action will be thrown out. And further damage her daughters, but she doesn’t care about that. She only cares about revenge. She’s filled with it. And it’s been years.

I can’t wait for the plane to land and for her to actually fall into a whole new irrelevance. Where her BH/Hollywood friends won’t want to know her, no one writes about her. Everyone will go back to not knowing who she is and her claim to fame will be she was once married to Ioan Gruffudd (but he hasn’t seen her or spoken to her in years) Her true rock bottom.

 

[ButterTart]

Malice so badly wants to be bereaved. Because bereaved parents get sympathy, support and some times - money.

I’m a widow. My husband died last year (I posted it so nothing new). It broke my heart. I’m utterly broken and my whole world is so irregular still. The children and I are attempting to navigate our new normal.

And I’d still rather be me than that lying scheming lazy witch Alice.

Because I live in the knowledge that my husband loved me. I have a raft of support from friends and family and even made wonderful new young widow friends who’ve guided me through.

And I’ve continued to live. Get promotions, send the kids on good holidays and support myself financially. Has it been easy? No. It’s the hardest thing I’ll ever do.

But I’m living. And moving forward. Something Alice fails repeatedly to do.

Any civil action will be thrown out. And further damage her daughters, but she doesn’t care about that. She only cares about revenge. She’s filled with it. And it’s been years.

I can’t wait for the plane to land and for her to actually fall into a whole new irrelevance. Where her BH/Hollywood friends won’t want to know her, no one writes about her. Everyone will go back to not knowing who she is and her claim to fame will be she was once married to Ioan Gruffudd (but he hasn’t seen her or spoken to her in years) Her true rock bottom.

Beautifully said…

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

tickets would have cost a lot and now the public knows it.

But they don't. We do due to some detective work by Welp. AFE was careful not to put it on her Insta.

the daughter posted it seems like a giant duck off to Alice

Not really. Ella still gets nice things and Mommy Dearest gets the credit for it despite the fact that IG would have paid for it indirectly.
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I think this was a move on Judge Josh’s part to make Ella aware she was being used as a pawn and hopefully prevent a repeat of the sham RO.


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This must have been sobering for Ella. She probably realised she had been played at this point.

 

[Loveu2]

Ella seems to have the same attitude as her mother. I can't see a reconciliation with her father happening unless she is completely free from Alice. I know that Alice is to blame, but healing from the abusive narc would start with recognizing the behavior. Even then, I don't see Ella apologizing and taking responsibility for any of actions.

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

I don't see Ella apologizing and taking responsibility for any of actions.

She's too young to write off. I didn't see Ioan leaving his BDSM relationship with Alice as I thought he liked it. Turned out he didn't.

 

[Loveu2]

Alice can huff and puff all she wants, she not going to blow down Ioan and Bianca's house.

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She's too young to write off. I didn't see Ioan leaving his BDSM relationship with Alice as I thought he liked it. Turned out he didn't.

There's always hope for children. I just hope she recognizes that she has been abused and has abused Ioan and Bianca on Alice's behalf.

 

[sweetnessfollows]

Malice so badly wants to be bereaved. Because bereaved parents get sympathy, support and some times - money.

I’m a widow. My husband died last year (I posted it so nothing new). It broke my heart. I’m utterly broken and my whole world is so irregular still. The children and I are attempting to navigate our new normal.

And I’d still rather be me than that lying scheming lazy witch Alice.

Because I live in the knowledge that my husband loved me. I have a raft of support from friends and family and even made wonderful new young widow friends who’ve guided me through.

And I’ve continued to live. Get promotions, send the kids on good holidays and support myself financially. Has it been easy? No. It’s the hardest thing I’ll ever do.

But I’m living. And moving forward. Something Alice fails repeatedly to do.

Any civil action will be thrown out. And further damage her daughters, but she doesn’t care about that. She only cares about revenge. She’s filled with it. And it’s been years.

I can’t wait for the plane to land and for her to actually fall into a whole new irrelevance. Where her BH/Hollywood friends won’t want to know her, no one writes about her. Everyone will go back to not knowing who she is and her claim to fame will be she was once married to Ioan Gruffudd (but he hasn’t seen her or spoken to her in years) Her true rock bottom.

This is incredible and moving.

The idea that a woman who is going through a run of the mill divorce would grotesquely attach herself to the suffering of the bereaved is deranged.

I think it speaks to how transactional she is. I can't speak for your loss @UncoveredLurker but I've lost very meaningful people in my life and there's always a type of course humanity that comes with it.

You've written so thoughtfully about the one foot in front of the other survival that comes with it. I hope you continue to sail forward with smooth waters.

People care and check in...but not too much. They act often in a way that your loss doesn't rub off on them. That's not a criticism but I've always found during grief the hardest part is the cascade of care that is sort of superficial.

Alice wants the loud public grief that is transactional.

Not the real silence of loss.

 

[lulooo]

Malice so badly wants to be bereaved. Because bereaved parents get sympathy, support and some times - money.

I’m a widow. My husband died last year (I posted it so nothing new). It broke my heart. I’m utterly broken and my whole world is so irregular still. The children and I are attempting to navigate our new normal.

And I’d still rather be me than that lying scheming lazy witch Alice.

Because I live in the knowledge that my husband loved me. I have a raft of support from friends and family and even made wonderful new young widow friends who’ve guided me through.

And I’ve continued to live. Get promotions, send the kids on good holidays and support myself financially. Has it been easy? No. It’s the hardest thing I’ll ever do.

But I’m living. And moving forward. Something Alice fails repeatedly to do.

Any civil action will be thrown out. And further damage her daughters, but she doesn’t care about that. She only cares about revenge. She’s filled with it. And it’s been years.

I can’t wait for the plane to land and for her to actually fall into a whole new irrelevance. Where her BH/Hollywood friends won’t want to know her, no one writes about her. Everyone will go back to not knowing who she is and her claim to fame will be she was once married to Ioan Gruffudd (but he hasn’t seen her or spoken to her in years) Her true rock bottom.

Beautiful words, and a tribute to your strength, tenacity, and love for your husband and children ❤❤