Alice Evans & Ioan Gruffudd #261 If you can't pay your bills maybe it's time to move out of Beverly Hills

Will Alice have the electricity disconnected?

  • Yes

    Votes: 57 23.6%

  • No

    Votes: 185 76.4%
  • Total voters
    242
  • Poll closed .
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RECAP #260
•There was much chat wondering where Gloria is
•Mad Betty spoke about all that LA has to offer and specifically mentioned Koreatown
•Lo and behold, Alice posts a photo showing Elsie in Koreatown with none other than Gloria (but Alice never reads tattle)
•Alice also discussed, once again, buying expensive coffee drinks even though she’s supposedly skint
•Rolexgate took yet another turn when Bianca, showing off a bracelet her mum bought her, included the green Olivia Burton watch that is definitely not a Rolex.
•Tattlers wondered if OB had seen an uptick in sales
•Another article in the Daily Mail accusing Bianca of a passive aggressive post
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...ce-Alice-Evans-Ioan-Gruffudd-Rolex-watch.html
•Alice got us all talking when she posted an outstanding electric bill/disconnection notice in the amount of $3200+ claiming she hadn’t received a bill in 8 months, her account is not working and she can’t get past bots to speak to a human agent
•Alice has until August 5th to pay or it’s lights out
•Alice stupidly left her account number unredacted and a tattler (me) had zero issues accessing the bill, where the balance is closer to $3600
•She was maybe hoping for an FM to pay her bill but after 3 days, the full amount is still outstanding
•Instead she got *advice* that ranged from emailing the CEO (🤣) to getting a dr’s note (🤣🤣) to calling the police (💀💀)
•Will the bill get paid by someone else? Will the bill get paid by Alice? Will the bill get paid or will the power be disconnected come Aug 5th (Monday)?
•Alice’s GFM had a $1000 donation from Alice Anonymous, after posting the overdue bill
•Ioan’s lawyer will be off from Aug 5th-Aug 19. Ioan’s response is due by the 25th
•Appears that I and B are abroad as well, which may explain Alice’s antics (if she knew ahead of time). They appear to be somewhere in the Mediterranean, Malta
•Alice’s birthday is today. No holidays. No gifts. No one cares.
•Thank to all contributors, BoS for the new thread, Ametrine for the thread title and let’s keep making each laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh
 
Old Soak said:
RECAP #260
•There was much chat wondering where Gloria is
•Mad Betty spoke about all that LA has to offer and specifically mentioned Koreatown
•Lo and behold, Alice posts a photo showing Elsie in Koreatown with none other than Gloria (but Alice never reads tattle)
•Alice also discussed, once again, buying expensive coffee drinks even though she’s supposedly skint
•Rolexgate took yet another turn when Bianca, showing off a bracelet her mum bought her, included the green Olivia Burton watch that is definitely not a Rolex.
•Tattlers wondered if OB had seen an uptick in sales
•Another article in the Daily Mail accusing Bianca of a passive aggressive post
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...ce-Alice-Evans-Ioan-Gruffudd-Rolex-watch.html
•Alice got us all talking when she posted an outstanding electric bill/disconnection notice in the amount of $3200+ claiming she hadn’t received a bill in 8 months, her account is not working and she can’t get past bots to speak to a human agent
•Alice has until August 5th to pay or it’s lights out
•Alice stupidly left her account number unredacted and a tattler (me) had zero issues accessing the bill, where the balance is closer to $3600
•She was maybe hoping for an FM to pay her bill but after 3 days, the full amount is still outstanding
•Instead she got *advice* that ranged from emailing the CEO (🤣) to getting a dr’s note (🤣🤣) to calling the police (💀💀)
•Will the bill get paid by someone else? Will the bill get paid by Alice? Will the bill get paid or will the power be disconnected come Aug 5th (Monday)?
•Alice’s GFM had a $1000 donation from Alice Anonymous, after posting the overdue bill
•Ioan’s lawyer will be off from Aug 5th-Aug 19. Ioan’s response is due by the 25th
•Appears that I and B are abroad as well, which may explain Alice’s antics (if she knew ahead of time). They appear to be somewhere in the Mediterranean, Malta
•Alice’s birthday is today. No holidays. No gifts. No one cares.
•Thank to all contributors, BoS for the new thread, Ametrine for the thread title and let’s keep making each laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh
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I love your recaps! I also love the fact that you must write it as the thread goes along so nothing is missed and you get it in so fast!
 
Thanks for setting the new thread up BoS!
Oldsoak for the recap and Ametrine for a corker of a title thread 👌🏻🎊🩷
I've been trying to garden and stuff, fecking hard work when your meant to be on crutches 😫
Came on to check, 5 new pages and a new thread, I thought maybe the court docs had dropped!
I'm fully stocked up on snacks and food, as I expect Mount mAlice may well erupt over the weekend. We all know she loses it when they leave LA for whatever reason.
Wherever they are, that sunset looked beautiful 🩷
 
Old Soak said:
RECAP #260
•There was much chat wondering where Gloria is
•Mad Betty spoke about all that LA has to offer and specifically mentioned Koreatown
•Lo and behold, Alice posts a photo showing Elsie in Koreatown with none other than Gloria (but Alice never reads tattle)
•Alice also discussed, once again, buying expensive coffee drinks even though she’s supposedly skint
•Rolexgate took yet another turn when Bianca, showing off a bracelet her mum bought her, included the green Olivia Burton watch that is definitely not a Rolex.
•Tattlers wondered if OB had seen an uptick in sales
•Another article in the Daily Mail accusing Bianca of a passive aggressive post
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.dai...ce-Alice-Evans-Ioan-Gruffudd-Rolex-watch.html
•Alice got us all talking when she posted an outstanding electric bill/disconnection notice in the amount of $3200+ claiming she hadn’t received a bill in 8 months, her account is not working and she can’t get past bots to speak to a human agent
•Alice has until August 5th to pay or it’s lights out
•Alice stupidly left her account number unredacted and a tattler (me) had zero issues accessing the bill, where the balance is closer to $3600
•She was maybe hoping for an FM to pay her bill but after 3 days, the full amount is still outstanding
•Instead she got *advice* that ranged from emailing the CEO (🤣) to getting a dr’s note (🤣🤣) to calling the police (💀💀)
•Will the bill get paid by someone else? Will the bill get paid by Alice? Will the bill get paid or will the power be disconnected come Aug 5th (Monday)?
•Alice’s GFM had a $1000 donation from Alice Anonymous, after posting the overdue bill
•Ioan’s lawyer will be off from Aug 5th-Aug 19. Ioan’s response is due by the 25th
•Appears that I and B are abroad as well, which may explain Alice’s antics (if she knew ahead of time). They appear to be somewhere in the Mediterranean, Malta
•Alice’s birthday is today. No holidays. No gifts. No one cares.
•Thank to all contributors, BoS for the new thread, Ametrine for the thread title and let’s keep making each laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh
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The doctor's note suggestion slayed me! 💀😂 It was a good thing for that lady but from her story she had good reasons and it wasn't her fault. I don't think Alice is going to find even a shady drug dealing doctor who will give her a note saying she can't pay her electricity bill because she's a cunt!
 
I think Tone has moved to the town where I live

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CookieMonsta said:
The doctor's note suggestion slayed me! 💀😂 It was a good thing for that lady but from her story she had good reasons and it wasn't her fault. I don't think Alice is going to find even a shady drug dealing doctor who will give her a note saying she can't pay her electricity bill because she's a cunt!
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And call the police WTAF 💀🤣
All her FMs saying "sorry you're going through this" it's a bill ffs 🤦🏼‍♀️ and one she let run up!
 
I just caught the tail end of the discussion last thread about the timing of moving in with Bianca, and it made me look back at the DVRO application with the 113 pages of evidence. You forget how sickening and relentless she was - or I did!

@Nixlondon I did wonder at the time about Ioan moving in with Bianca so fast. But not because of Alice's feelings, or even because of his kids - like others have said, 6 months is a long time in a kid's life, and if it had been managed by two mature human beings and not an abuse victim and a deranged, vengeful monster, I can't see that it would have been a huge problem. I was more concerned for Ioan himself, because it seemed very fast to come out of such an abusive situation and straight into a very serious relationship. Still, now we know that actually the marriage had been failing for years, and that he'd been getting therapy for years, and that Bee has escaped abuse herself, I feel a lot more comfortable with it. (Which I'm sure they'll be SO relieved to know, lol!)

I don't think the timing of him moving in with Bianca would actually have made any difference in this particular situation. Maybe in a different divorce, with two different people, but not this one. She was alienating the kids from him anyway as soon as he walked out the door, and on top of that, she's a fucking abusive abusive cunt.

Bianca was a convenient excuse to unleash hell. First Alice blamed his mother (and if we think she wasn't ranting about Evil Welsh Grandma to the girls then we're dreaming) then she made random accusations of him having relationships with coworkers publicly on twitter. After that it was the fault of his female lawyers for 'sucking his nob'. She was going to make this the fault of another woman, she just had to find the right one to blame it on. It's the only way to square it in her head, because how on earth could Ioan of his own free will give up someone as wonderful as her? Once she found out he had a new girlfriend she had the target she'd been looking for and the narrative that would work in her favour (he had an affair! Cue every bonkers mumsnetter/ig follower who believes any kind of abuse is fine if your husband has cheated, including murder).

If anyone has started to feel sympathy for the auld baggage, just give yourself a wee refresher of the court docs. The way she abuses him up, down and back to front, calls him hideous things, tells him he's unloveable, a failure, a horrible father, says cruel things about his family - and then switches to "oh can you come and film an audition tape for me?" is so disorientating and makes me feel sick. Like someone said, all her emotions are shallow as fuck due to [insert personality disorder here] and she can turn them on and off at her will and convenience. Terrifying, honestly.
 
Carrying on the "Ioan has not behaved perfectly" discussion from the last thread (I don't know how to quote from an old thread) I don't think that enough weight has been given to Ioan's mental state when he fled that marriage with only the clothes on his back.

I mean, if Amanda Abbington can get diagnosed with complex PTSD after training with Giovanni for a few weeks imagine what Ioan has suffered. He spent YEARS with that woman. He must have been broken, I don't think we can even imagine.

I can forgive him the "crime" of moving in with Bianca a little early, he may have needed the support, it might even have saved his life, we don't know. I think he deserves to be cut an awful lot of slack actually, for what he has gone through. Moo
 
At first I thought he moved in too soon with Bianca, both for the kids sakes and for YoBee's. But the reality is as much as we do know and as much as we think we know, there's a whole lot more that we don't have any idea about. Alice is a raging narc and a misogynist. She can't stand the thought that Ioan left HER let alone that he left because of HER. She was always going to blame another woman. He and Bianca could have met and moved in together after years and she would still be blaming her, and teaching the kids to blame and hate her. Where the kids are concerned, Imo sadly the timeline doesn't really make a difference.

As for YoBee, I was suspicious of Bianca at first and of how fast their relationship moved, partly out of concern for both of them coming out of abusive relationships. But the more I see them together the more I feel like they really belong together, they match. I think they are meant to be together and I will actually be surprised if they don't last. As many people have said on these threads, sometimes you meet the one and you just know immediately.
 
marjorytrashheap said:
Bianca was a convenient excuse to unleash hell. First Alice blamed his mother (and if we think she wasn't ranting about Evil Welsh Grandma to the girls then we're dreaming) then she made random accusations of him having relationships with coworkers publicly on twitter. After that it was the fault of his female lawyers for 'sucking his nob'. She was going to make this the fault of another woman, she just had to find the right one to blame it on. It's the only way to square it in her head, because how on earth could Ioan of his own free will give up someone as wonderful as her? Once she found out he had a new girlfriend she had the target she'd been looking for and the narrative that would work in her favour (he had an affair! Cue every bonkers mumsnetter/ig follower who believes any kind of abuse is fine if your husband has cheated, including murder).
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EXACTLY!!
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CookieMonsta said:
Did he bring the (imaginary) giant dildo with him?
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You know what? Maybe Tone could set up a dildo/sex shop? Might do better than the vapes and Cash Converters!
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Seagreen said:
I think he deserves to be cut an awful lot of slack actually, for what he has gone through. Moo
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Yes - he is judged a lot more harshly than a woman fleeing an abusive marriage is, just because he's a man.
 
Bridgeofsighs said:
EXACTLY!!
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You know what? Maybe Tone could set up a dildo/sex shop? Might do better than the vapes and Cash Converters!
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Yes - he is judged a lot more harshly than a woman fleeing an abusive marriage is, just because he's a man.
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OMG Bridge! Tone is creepy AF on a twitter account halfway across the ocean! Can you imagine him as the proprietor of a sex shop??


Damn you Bridge. I was just about to have a snack.
 
mousse said:
I kind of wonder if they didn’t move in together so quickly - at least in part- *because* of how Alice reacted and the alienation from the kids.
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Yes that's a good point. Maybe IG would have held off for a bit if things weren't already non-existent with Ella and getting sparser with Elsie re contact arrangements. He could already see how AFE's PA was working all too well. If he had got 50/50 with a non mentalist ex, it might have somewhat different but there was a financial element to it as well. His mentalist ex was not paying for anything and 2 homes to finance is a lot, never mind 3!
 
Ioan has flaws within the normal range of human fallibility like most of us do. Alice is on an another spectrum - a human being devoid of empathy morality and ethics. From the minute he met Alice Evans Ioan was making a long series of mistakes out naivety, infatuation, guilt, fear and obligation. It would have impacted on his mental health and adult development.

My opinion on his decision to live with Bianca is that it made no difference to the outcome with his children. He would have to had taken very decisive and drastic legal action to remove Alice from their lives years ago for that to change. Ella was enlisted and indoctrinated years before he left.

However I think he should have done more work on himself before a new relationship. I think he is very co dependent and whilst this doesn’t mean he won’t have successful relationships he should have worked on his esteem and confidence.
 
I haven't voted in the poll because I'm torn on which option to pick, and suspect Alice hasn't decided yet. She'll go with whatever she thinks will get her the most attention and paint Ioan in the worst light.

Will it be a "poor me" post by candlelight? Or will she be bragging about "her amazing friends" who have paid her bill (accompanied by lots of comments from FMs criticising Ioan)? I really don't know.
 
Danica Catrick said:
I haven't voted in the poll because I'm torn on which option to pick, and suspect Alice hasn't decided yet. She'll go with whatever she thinks will get her the most attention and paint Ioan in the worst light.

Will it be a "poor me" post by candlelight? Or will she be bragging about "her amazing friends" who have paid her bill (accompanied by lots of comments from FMs criticising Ioan)? I really don't know.
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I opted for no she won't be disconnected, I'm calling it now that she's going to get her favourite spot in the side bar of the DM about how her birthday was made by a kind benefactor who saved the day by paying her electric bill. Cue the usual diatribe and timeline of how Ioan hasn't paid Alice, blah blah blah.
Kids confused he's not taking their calls 📞 blah blah blah....
Ioan currently unavailable for comment 💅
 
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