Alice Evans & Ioan Gruffudd #257 Liar Liar second hand pants on fire

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Recap:

•Alice was posting a lot of crap on instagram right at the end of the last thread

•We got some pictures of Emma

•We were treated to not one but two reels that her new teenage please-adopt-me-please-be-my-mother fan base made

•Alice posted a bullshit story to her insta stories. She claimed that she was stacking the dishwasher (lie 1) when Elsie walked over and said (lie 2 and I paraphrase ) “mom no offence but you’re doing it wrong. I’ll take over.” The only thing we believe is that Elsie was stacking the dishwasher.

•Alice is still trying to make a “we” out of her and Ioan by claiming that “getting Emma was the best thing we ever did for the girls.”

•Alice has received over $500k from Ioan and not all of it above board and much is subject to reallocation as she has been massively overpaid

•Alice said both girls were on play dates, which checks out. Why parent your kids when others can?

•Alice was papped in the wild in two different outfits, receiving a food shopping order with her norks out. She doesn’t even shop for the family but then again, four conventions booked can be very demanding.

•Katie Hind “wrote” a piece for the DM that claimed Ioan’s friends spoke to her to clear up some mistruths about Alice’s RFO

•To be fair it was pretty harsh but it could also have been Alice beHIND it to do her victim schtick

•The DM comments were damning

•So Alice posted some fan chat that she’s participating in for her role as Faith in the Christmas card for Christmas in July

•Then Alice, nursing her wounds from the ass kicking the public opinion gave her, posted a “Thank You” post literally with the words thank you and some sort of humble-caption, saying she was overwhelmed with all the ridicule support

•Feeling like the old days to be honest. Threads are flying, Alice has been frenetically posting on instagram, she dirty deleted that late night photo of the girls, deleting threads that she is fighting in. The typos are getting worse, everyone is I and B, I and B run tattle, all tattlers will be exposed/sued/destroyed. Sneaky fighting in the comments of old posts when trying to refrain from outright posting smack on her grid

•Alice posted a mushy congrats on Alexandra Daddario’s pregnancy announcement, knowing full well she was just with Ioan in Italy and caught up with him

•As of this writing Alice is drunk, fighting under her thank you post (LOL) with someone she believes to be Hiraeth. She is really riled by Hiraeth tonight 💅 🍿

•Alice is simultaneously claiming that Katie Hind’s article incorrectly turned her RFO to the court into a personal declaration and that the RFO is her personal declaration that she herself signed

•New side character alerts: children’s book author and her dumb husband Mike

•ALICE: CHANGE YOUR BIO AND YOUR DAMN NAME

Thank you Stone Mountain for the new thread and congrats Narc Rage on the title! Please add on anything I may have forgotten and tattle on, friends
Whew. What a ride. Thank you so much for another most excellent recap. I am in stitches at the sheer lunacy of the situation. Wheres Netflix when you need them? Forget Depp V Heard. We need Evans Vs Everyone.
 
I'm at my parents house for a little visit/holiday. Every single time I pick up my phone to check up on Tattle, I feel eyes on me from across the room. Then I slowly put it down and see my mom staring at me. She asks "What are you reading on there that's so important?" Where do I even start?? 🤣
So I tell her this famous-ish actor left his abusive wife. The wife threatened to lie and tell tabloids blah blah blah in order to prevent him leaving. He left anyway, and she went nuts (I gave some examples).
Alice, my mom is 84 years old. She is smart as whip, strong-willed, and sometimes scary. She's got years of experience and is not afraid to share. She said this about you: "What on earth is she doing?" And then you got the head shake. That's very serious. It means stop it right now and behave like an adult. And be a mom. If my mom is disgusted, that means you really are acting like a bleep.
I took a Pic of my mom's face when I told her about MAlice ( I also have been lectured not to be on my phone so much. 🙃 I love my mom)View attachment 3052024 q)
The "what in the world" face that's universal to all moms. Did she give your dad that "Can you believe this" glance for good measure? HAHAHAHAAA. I love it. Your mom is awesome.
 
This is an interesting article. Alice is definitely, without a doubt, an 'engulfing mother'. Her girls will need to read this book in their future.
Is your mother a narcissist? Here are the ten questions to ask...
By DANU MORRIGAN FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 02:02, 12 July 2024 | UPDATED: 07:37, 12 July 2024

Mothers love their children; they'll do anything for them. That's what we're told.
But I don't believe my mother ever loved me. She certainly didn't seem to care for me — or my three younger siblings — the way other mothers did.
She never hugged us or showed us affection. It wasn't until I had my son, now 28, that I realised what maternal love should look like. Instinctively, I knew I would die for him.
On the other hand, my mother — who died eight years ago — made me feel unlovable. For her, I was never good enough.
My first memory of her criticising me was when I was just six. As I strutted playfully in front of a mirror, she said: 'You're starting to get fat — you want to watch that!' It was the first of many derogatory comments about my body.
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Experts estimate that one in 20 people in Britain have symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
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Over the years, I realised my mother wasn't simply selfish or uncaring. Having researched the subject, I came to recognise that she very likely had Narcissistic Personality Disorder, though it was never formally diagnosed.
Everything in our family revolved around her. Our job was to bolster her over-inflated view of herself. And my father, an executive with Aer Lingus who died three years ago, always took her side. It took me 20 years to have the courage to turn my back on my mother, cutting all contact. It was the only way to save my sanity.
After I started to share my experiences around a decade ago it sparked a huge response; since then I've spoken to thousands of women with similar stories to tell, and have set up Daughters Of Narcissistic Mothers in order to help others like me. More than two million people have visited my website, and I've written four books on the subject.

While I may not have professional training as a therapist, what's clear is there are experiences that are common to everyone who's had to suffer at the hands of a narcissistic mother.
And with experts estimating one in 20 people in Britain have symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, it means many of us are living with such a parent.
Here are the ten questions you can ask to help identify if you have a narcissistic mother.

Does she celebrate your successes?
It's normal for mums to bask in our achievements. But narcissists have such an over-inflated sense of themselves they can't stand being second best.
Women have told me that even at their graduations their mothers would be practising one-upmanship, boasting that their degree was better.
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Narcissistic mothers have such an over-inflated sense of themselves they can't stand being second best, writes Danu Morrigan
When I told my mother I'd won a prize for one of my novels, she smiled smugly: 'Well, you are related to James Joyce on my side, so that's not surprising.'
In those few words she managed to dismiss all my hard work and determination. It wasn't just unkind, it was rubbish — a fantasy born of the fact her Irish grandfather had a passing physical resemblance to the writer.
Is she supportive in tough times?
If your mother's a narcissist, she's got so little empathy she doesn't have a clue what you need. One woman told me how she sobbed down the phone to her mother after she had a miscarriage. Instead of providing a sympathetic ear, her mother said: 'You've got to stop crying. It's tough for me. I've lost my grandchild and you're making me even sadder.'
Do you feel confused after being with her?
Narcissists genuinely believe they always know best and can never bear to be wrong. Being raised by them is like living in a hall of mirrors. Nothing is as it seems. A form of gaslighting, they will swear that black is white, and if we dare to demur they will accuse us of having a 'vivid imagination' or that the problem is with us.
I would have terrible rows with my mother and, the next time I saw her, she would deny they had ever happened. 'You're just being over-sensitive,' she'd snap.
They make you question your own sense of reality, and spending time with them is draining.
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When Danu told her mother she had won a prize for one of her novels, her mother said: 'Well, you are related to James Joyce (pictured) on my side, so that's not surprising'
Does she have favourites?
Narcissistic mothers fall into two categories: Ignoring Mothers like mine who are so engrossed in their own selves they ignore their children, or Engulfing Mothers who see their children as extensions of themselves. The Engulfing Mothers can have a Golden Child who can do no wrong, along with a Scapegoat who is blamed for everything. That's commonly the child who dares to question her.
Does she respect your personal space?
Did your mother read your teenage diary? Did she barge into your bedroom without knocking? We all know teenagers can be tricky. But narcissists have an excessive need to control the people around them. I've even heard of mothers removing their children's bedroom doors.
How did she behave at your wedding?
If there's one thing narcissists can't resist it's the chance to upstage their daughters. That's why weddings are catnip to them.When I got married, my mother didn't care that the red dress she chose clashed with my purple and cream colour scheme.
I wouldn't have known, as she and my father said they would keep my mother's outfit a 'surprise' for me on the day.
Luckily, I discovered the plan in time to challenge her on it. She only begrudgingly agreed to change to another outfit when my father — unusually — insisted. But she never forgot it. A few years later when Princess Diana wore a purple and red dress, she made sure to point it out to me.
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Does she blame you if things go wrong?
Narcissists expect to be recognised as brilliant even if they don't have the achievements to prove it. Daughters can end up being blamed for everything that went wrong in their mothers' lives. 'I could have been a world-class opera singer if I hadn't had you,' was what one guilt-ridden child revealed her mother had told her.
My mother was a heavy smoker and made regular attempts to quit. She never managed. But she didn't blame her own lack of willpower; instead she blamed us children, telling us we made her life so difficult she needed cigarettes to cope.
Does she build you up, Then tear you down?
Because everything is only important in as much as it impacts on them, narcissistic mothers often see-saw between bigging up their daughters and belittling them when they start feeling jealous.
In their minds, if someone else is being admired, then they are being ignored, so as we grow up and threaten to outshine them, all hell can break loose.
One daughter confided how, when she hit 14 and started attracting admiring glances for her long blonde hair, her mother marched her off to the hairdresser to get it all shorn off.
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Does she hijack your children?
I've lost count of the number of women who've told me about the insidious ways their mothers inveigle their way into their grandchildren's affections.
It's natural to spoil your grandchildren. But narcissists go way over the top, muscling their daughters aside so they can win top spot in their grandchildren's lives. It's common for narcissistic grannies to talk about 'my baby'.
It can be particularly destructive as children grow older. I know of grandmothers who undermine their daughters in order to curry favour, be it letting them drink in their homes or buying their love with hefty handouts.
Is she a fan of the fauxpology?
Fauxpologies are a favourite trick of narcissists.
Here, what she says sounds like an apology, but she's not taking responsibility for her behaviour.
So a narcissistic mother might say 'I'm sorry you're upset' or 'I'm sorry you think I wasn't a good mother' or 'I'm sorry you can't take a joke.'
In each of these examples, she's not acknowledging her own wrong-doing. The issue is your upset, your thoughts or your lack of humour, never her actions.
How To Go No-Contact With Your Narcissistic Mother by Danu Morrigan (£10.99) is published by DLT Books (daughtersofnarcissisticmothers.com)
As told to Tessa Cunningham.
 
LA is so weird to me (apologies to our lovely turds who call it home) but I don’t understand the driving a 10-15 walk thing.

When I was last in LA I had two cars pull over and the drivers ask me if I was okay. I was walking the ten minutes to my meeting from my hotel! At least you are a friendly bunch!
Isnt that a American thing though? Any city in the US I have been to I had people looking at me as if I was going to pull a gun out just because I was walking 💀
 
Trump has just been shot - looked like it nicked his ear. ETA snap
This is going to absolutely kill Alice - if she comments with anti Trump sensibilities, she alienates the FB group - if she doesn't she looks like the coward she accused Ioan of being, what to do..... what to do......? :unsure:
Isn't karma the funniest thing ever?😂
 
Trump has just been shot - looked like it nicked his ear. ETA snap
This is going to absolutely kill Alice - if she comments with anti Trump sensibilities, she alienates the FB group - if she doesn't she looks like the coward she accused Ioan of being, what to do..... what to do......? :unsure:
Isn't karma the funniest thing ever?😂
She's bursting to post and feel like her opinion is important 🥴

I on the other hand can't think of things more boring than Trump. Oh, and football. Zzz.

Moderate interest in Wimbledon, enjoyable today. Congrats to @AuroraBorealis 👏
 
Trump has just been shot - looked like it nicked his ear. ETA snap
This is going to absolutely kill Alice - if she comments with anti Trump sensibilities, she alienates the FB group - if she doesn't she looks like the coward she accused Ioan of being, what to do..... what to do......? :unsure:
Isn't karma the funniest thing ever?😂

In her twitter days she would have been gleeful about this. In fact, I think she said she wanted him dead in so many words.
 
She's so scared she sits at home arguing with strangers on the internet rather than get in the car and drive her daughter herself?
I've had teenage kids. You spend your whole life driving them around. That's what being a mother is at this age
Alice has more important things to do like threaten Violet with whatever Mike said.
I bet you my bottom dollar Alice has had 'fibro' this whole weekend - she has basically been too drunk/hungover to get in a car, hence the ubers! What a peach of woman.
 
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