Alice and Fern

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Bugger.lugs said:
It seems like she was trying to fool herself into thinking she had a perfect life....but I actually quite like her right now.
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I no longer have Tiktok but I genuinely liked some of her stuff she did about making things, sewing, planting etc before she got big- is she back on that?
 
Yesss she is clearly so much happier and lighter. And less nasty and bitter about other women.

I do think she is keeping quiet about some of her more controversial opinions though and I don't know whether they have actually changed. Like the militant veganism and militant 'natural birth' crapv and antivax and anti medicine. She's explicitly reneged on some of the tradwife stuff but I would like to know her views on that stuff.

I'm not jumping fully on board with her yet because I think she may be hiding that as part of her new strategy. But there's defo progress in the right direction.
 
Squittel said:
I’m so pleased for her, she’s still an unusual little person but it’s nice to see her understanding her relationship for what it was (abusive) and she’s super committed to her two boys and trying to do right by them.
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This is maybe going to come off wrong but I can’t work out how to say it any other way. She’s unusual in an interesting way now, whereas before it was in a concerning way?
 
I think what I forget about these online personalities is that often when they’re most popular they’re REALLY young and the stuff they say is probably typical teenage rubbish. We were all stupid and opinionated once. Alice must only have been about 19/20 when she started tiktok. The breakup might be part of the change but some of it might just be natural maturing and growing up!
 
barefeart said:
I think what I forget about these online personalities is that often when they’re most popular they’re REALLY young and the stuff they say is probably typical teenage rubbish. We were all stupid and opinionated once. Alice must only have been about 19/20 when she started tiktok. The breakup might be part of the change but some of it might just be natural maturing and growing up!
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But will she ever vaccinate her children, I wonder! That would be a really significant change.
 
Youarewelcome said:
She’s still an awful person and terrible parent. Have you seen sage? He’s 1 in a couple of weeks and wears 0-3 clothes. He can’t sit up unaided. She spends hours a day painting her hours and making TikTok’s; where’s Sage? Either strapped into a bouncer or left to his own devices. She’s failing those children in every single way.
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I generally agree. I think it's good that she's away from her husband but she still doesn't know how to parent, has no support network AT ALL to show her how and guide her if she's going wrong, and I reckon she is still very resistant to any outside advice.

I do wonder how she finds the time to do all the DIY. It seems like a massive distraction from her life and probably just a superficial improvement and people are totally falling for it. I have a child and in between working part time, cooking, cleaning and looking after my kid it takes me weeks of doing an hour here and there to get any DIY or gardening done. I'm 100% sure the kids are glued to their ipads/ TVs, funnily enough that's one thing she's never hidden, she used to call Fern the ipad baby didn't she.

It upsets me how the kids have zero socialisation. Kids light up around people and as they get older, like 2+ it's an absolute wonder and joy to see them interacting with other children. They stand no chance really especially if she decides to homeschool them.
 
Youarewelcome said:
She’s still an awful person and terrible parent. Have you seen sage? He’s 1 in a couple of weeks and wears 0-3 clothes. He can’t sit up unaided. She spends hours a day painting her hours and making TikTok’s; where’s Sage? Either strapped into a bouncer or left to his own devices. She’s failing those children in every single way.
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Oh good, she’s still a bellend then
 
Squittel said:
I’m so pleased for her, she’s still an unusual little person but it’s nice to see her understanding her relationship for what it was (abusive) and she’s super committed to her two boys and trying to do right by them.
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I partly take back some of my positivity on her. I fell down a Reddit rabbit hole last night and must say some of the stuff I saw and read worried me a bit. Fern’s rotten teeth and bow legs, the fact that Sage can hardly sit up on his own at a few days off being a 1 year old, he’s still wearing 0-3 month clothes and he’s not moving around at all - definitely looks like a failure to thrive but there seems to be no medical intervention at all. She really needs to get over her fear of doctors and get these kids sorted out.
 
Squittel said:
I partly take back some of my positivity on her. I fell down a Reddit rabbit hole last night and must say some of the stuff I saw and read worried me a bit. Fern’s rotten teeth and bow legs, the fact that Sage can hardly sit up on his own at a few days off being a 1 year old, he’s still wearing 0-3 month clothes and he’s not moving around at all - definitely looks like a failure to thrive but there seems to be no medical intervention at all. She really needs to get over her fear of doctors and get these kids sorted out.
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Don't think Fern is speaking yet either
 
Oh the subject of neglected and possibly malnourished children, is anyone familiar with Ezekiel and Halee? I was considering making a thread.
 
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