24 hours in Police Custody - Channel 4

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Coconutclub said:
I thought that - I can’t help but think his crimes would have escalated into being a killer like Wayne Couzens did, if he hadn’t been caught for this.
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Hadn't he just rocked up in the town as well? That was one of his justifications for going out at night, to let off steam or something because he didn't know anyone. God knows what he got up to where he lived before.
 
BarryEvansHun said:
These men, in this situation, are not bad people. They are mentally ill with no support. Despite being on the radar. Left with quite serious disorders to their own devices. The system has failed them enough without getting shot.
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Did we find out if they had no support? Were they not attending appts or, like most people, couldn't get the help?
 
Warpaint said:
Hadn't he just rocked up in the town as well? That was one of his justifications for going out at night, to let off steam or something because he didn't know anyone. God knows what he got up to where he lived before.
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Wouldn't surprise me if he had done it too many times in his old place and was at risk of getting caught so moved away where he could "start again" it also shows how you don't know who people are he was so aggressive in those videos but when he was in the interview he acted more "normal" I bet people who know him had no idea , that's how scary it is
 
Leo100 said:
Wouldn't surprise me if he had done it too many times in his old place and was at risk of getting caught so moved away where he could "start again" it also shows how you don't know who people are he was so aggressive in those videos but when he was in the interview he acted more "normal" I bet people who know him had no idea , that's how scary it is
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He mentioned he had a kid as well. 🤢 him running after her was terrifying
 
I thought he seemed quite "normal" when he had the first interview and thought that maybe they had the wrong bloke but the coat was quite telling but was still unsure it was him as at one point he quite charming. Then the excuses started and then it was no, that's him. We never know who is walking amongst us. Never seen so many online articles about one episode of 24 hours, even in our local paper which is miles and miles away.
 
Officedoor123 said:
Did we find out if they had no support? Were they not attending appts or, like most people, couldn't get the help?
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They had been referred to agencies awaiting follow up. However, people that have psychotic disorders and extreme paranoia can find it difficult to attend appointments due to the nature of the illness. Home visits are more efficient. But the system is so underfunded, understaffed and 20 years behind that we wait until catastrophe happens before we put these things in place. Extreme stress can cause a massive relapse, as relationship breakdown with a child involved did exact that. If he was working with a professional and had built up trust prior relationship breakdown this could have all been avoided. Shooting mentally ill men with no support other than another mentally ill man whilst both self medicating is both barbaric and unethical.
 
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BarryEvansHun said:
They had been referred to agencies awaiting follow up. However, people that have psychotic disorders and extreme paranoia can find it difficult to attend appointments due to the nature of the illness. Home visits are more efficient. But the system is so underfunded, understaffed and 20 years behind that we wait until catastrophe happens before we put these things in place. Extreme stress can cause a massive relapse, as relationship breakdown with a child involved did exact that. If he was working with a professional and had built up trust prior relationship breakdown this could have all been avoided. Shooting mentally ill men with no support other than another mentally ill man whilst both self medicating is both barbaric and unethical.
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Thanks, that makes perfect sense and I agree with every word. Shocking in the UK in 2023 FFS.
 
rivermonster said:
I thought he seemed quite "normal" when he had the first interview and thought that maybe they had the wrong bloke but the coat was quite telling but was still unsure it was him as at one point he quite charming. Then the excuses started and then it was no, that's him. We never know who is walking amongst us. Never seen so many online articles about one episode of 24 hours, even in our local paper which is miles and miles away.
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Me too! Watching his first interview I sat there thinking maybe they've got it wrong. He came across like the police had got the wrong man. Then when they found the video I was shocked. I couldn't believe I'd been stupid enough to believe his "I'm innocent" act. Thank god they did catch him though. It scares me that men like this live amongst us.
 
I stupidly read the DM comments re this episode. Some fucker blamed the victim because she was drunk, had she learned her lesson blah blah. duck off. No one should go out and have to worry about whether or not they can have a few! It’s dangerous men like the rapist who are the problem! One of my girls is at uni and last weekend someone squeezed her bum in a club. She had no idea who and whilst she recognised this was sexual assault she said to me what could she do? It’s not on!
 
ELFILY said:
Men like him make me scared about my daughter growing up, just don’t want her to have to deal with anyone like that. Feel like it’s just getting worse and worse.
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A very dangerous man indeed. I feel had he not got caught, his crimes would have escalated to murder. They all start somewhere, Wayne Couzins started out the same way. It’s absolutely terrifying. That girl that reported the rape was so brave and has saved so many other women. I hope she is healing ❤️‍🩹
 
Meringue22 said:
I stupidly read the DM comments re this episode. Some fucker blamed the victim because she was drunk, had she learned her lesson blah blah. duck off. No one should go out and have to worry about whether or not they can have a few! It’s dangerous men like the rapist who are the problem! One of my girls is at uni and last weekend someone squeezed her bum in a club. She had no idea who and whilst she recognised this was sexual assault she said to me what could she do? It’s not on!
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Indeed, I don’t care how drunk she was, she should have been able to get home safely.
 
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