Lily and Anna: the fallout
Why are they no longer friends?
We don't know for sure, but it might have something to do with Lily leaving Gleam. One theory is they decided to leave Gleam together, but then Anna reneged on their plan at the last minute (maybe saying it was Mark's decision?) and then stopped speaking to Lily.
Lily appeared to be the one who was most hurt by the falling out, although it's hard to tell with Anna as she is always very 'good vibes only'/fake.
Of course, it might have nothing to do with Lily leaving Gleam. It's just a theory, we really don't know what happened.
Timeline
July 2022
Anna stops liking Lily’s Instagram posts.
August 2022
Lily stops liking Anna’s Instagram posts.
September 2022
Lily didn't send Anna any birthday wishes or acknowledge Anna’s son’s first birthday. Lily has left Gleam (unknown whether she jumped or was pushed or dumped) and has joined a new agency - YMU. Anna and Lily’s podcast is not continuing with Lily initially saying it was on her, however recently someone asked Lily in a YouTube comment if she would be able to do podcast with Anna now that Lily is with a different agency, and Lily gave a rather cold answer along the lines of "in this industry anyone can work with anyone". In a sneaky move, Anna has since randomly liked one of Lily’s reels.
October-November 2022
Lily and Anna continue to avoid each other at all costs. Anna appears to have banned YouTube comments featuring the words 'Lily,' 'Pebbles,' 'LP,' and even 'podcast.'
When Anna recently attended a bunch of events in London (including an overnight stay) she did not meet up with Lily. And even though they have both been attending plenty of PR events, they are sure to never attend the same one (even for brands they have both worked with - so seems it is being coordinated).
As the feud rumbles on, Lily seems to be determined to let people know that she does, in fact, have friends. She's been mentioning and featuring her friends in vlogs and has been trying to get Ruth Crilly onside. As for Anna, she is best friends with
Zoe Sugg nowadays. Lily who?
March 2023
Lily admits she is a blabbermouth who struggles to respect other people’s boundaries
September 2023
After around one year of studiously avoiding one another, Lily and Anna both attended an Arket dinner at Perilla. Who knew it would be an H&M brand to finally bring them back together. They were seen interacting although it appeared somewhat awkward and standoffish. Kudos to the event organiser who seated them together - secret Tattler perhaps
https://tattle.life/threads/lily-pebbles-46-rich-is-her-live-in-au-pair.41354/post-16585643
February 2024
There was a comment on Lily’s vlog that got 100 likes: "What happened to An na?"
Lily replied:
And a further comment and reply from Lily:
June 2024
Lily makes some very pointed comments about female friendship
September 2024
Lily addresses the end of the friendship in the last few minutes of a Q&A YouTube video uploaded 29 September:
https://youtu.be/2e3RSNwo5es
Time stamp 37m05s. Transcript as follows
Question: how do you get over the loss of a close friendship you don't need to go into detail as to why the friendship ended.
Answer: to be honest l've recorded the answer to this question or other similar questions about five times over the last two years and I always delete and decide not to put it in when I'm editing but almost every other question when I asked for a question on Instagram was are you still friends with Anna and I think for me part of moving forward in life and part of my like healing process I think I have to acknowledge it. l've tried not to and I don't want to dread every Q&A, I don’t want to dread my comments section. Anna and I haven't been close friends for over two years and l've never been able to speak about it because it's very hard to talk about a situation that doesn't just involve you yourself that involves two people my main priority will always be to be a decent human a respectful adult. l also was just nervous to bring attention to something which I didn't want more attention on but I do think two years down the line I am able to cope with that a lot better. We're both grown up women. There's no tea spilling this is not a soap opera we've seen each other a couple of times since and it’s been fine, we’ve had a nice catch up we’re just not close friends like how you guys remember us. Being time is the only thing that helps a heart heal and I know you guys can see what a good place I'm in now and I don't know what else to say it's all going to be okay. I'm sorry it took me so long to acknowledge it I felt from the beginning a huge amount of guilt and responsibility knowing that you guys were a part of our relationship for so long but I just didn't know how to do that without creating any drama and I also just didn't feel like I was stable enough. So l hope that you guys can take this information and deal with it respectfully without causing any unwanted drama where there isn’t there isn’t any drama.
Lily's track record of racism/classism/xenophobia/misogyny and other types of intolerance, discrimination or problematic behavior:
- Slagged off (now journalist) Lucy Partington for working at McDonalds and for speaking out against illegal unpaid internships (Lily, who got to live at her parents’ place in London for free until she was 27, was defending unpaid internships)
- Slagged off Fenty (brand owned by Black singer Rihanna Fenty and known for being WOC inclusive) for having a ‘stupid name’ and ‘imitating Fendi’ and repeatedly made patronizing comments about “not being interested in the range”
- Slagged off the lyrics in Rihanna’s song ‘Work’ which is in the Jamaican Patois language (“is she actually saying any real words?!”) and misspelled her name
- Repeatedly slagged off African American Vernacular English (“issa”, “got my nails did”)
- Tokenized Black blogger Kristabel Plummer for a book cover, did not pay her, and proceeded to misspell her name
- Performative activism during BLM: vowed to support Black brands, to make sure that there was representation of all races at PR events she attended, and to raise awareness of Black issues, only to do nothing
- Slagged off people for speaking a foreign language in an Uberpool with her (“They could speak perfect English but chose to speak another language the whole time. I think it’s so rude”, “I just don’t want to hear that!”)
- Made comment implying that her phone would “100% get stolen” on a road with council estates
- Defamed a hair salon (after they gave her a free service) by tweeting out that they had given away her jacket to another customer
- Slagged off women who don’t have children
- Posted photo of her fully-stocked fridge calling it “dull” in the middle of the child hunger/free school meals crisis (and the movement led by Marcus Rashford)
- Various instances of her classism showing through (eg saying about the IKEA desk that "it'll do for now...")
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Compilation of Lily's shitty non-apologies (i.e. Lily refusing to take responsibility for her words/actions):
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Compilation of Lily’s humiliating her husband Richard:
- Making him unblock the toilet after she flushed her used tampon
- Refusing to let him have a desk while he was working at home during the pandemic
- Making him pluck her chin hairs
- Making him shave her pubic hair
- Making him do her toenails
- Making him use only the downstairs toilet because she doesn't want him to poo in the same toilet as her
- Generally making fun of him/putting him down/posting pictures of him in vulnerable situations
