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Olivia gets a lot of hate because the show editing makes her look like a master puppeteer and manipulator. Not sure if that is really the case or if that is the objective of the producers.
Do you think she is those things? Defo Kim is, and the turnaround from Micah and Moriah from Olivia back to Kim is odd too?
 
Do you think she is those things? Defo Kim is, and the turnaround from Micah and Moriah from Olivia back to Kim is odd too?

I think that with a mother-in-law like Kim, any woman would become manipulative just to protect her marriage. Especially if your husband (Ethan) has been brainwashed his whole life and has no strong sense of identity. A woman should not have to compete with her mother-in-law. Olivia has the upper hand because she gets a lot of therapy and is able to work through some of those issues at least within herself. Her best idea was to move as far away from Kim as possible so she would stop meddling. What do you think?
 
I think that with a mother-in-law like Kim, any woman would become manipulative just to protect her marriage. Especially if your husband (Ethan) has been brainwashed his whole life and has no strong sense of identity. A woman should not have to compete with her mother-in-law. Olivia has the upper hand because she gets a lot of therapy and is able to work through some of those issues at least within herself. Her best idea was to move as far away from Kim as possible so she would stop meddling. What do you think?
I agree, Kim has brainwashed her children, I used to love watching Ethan trying new things, so strange to watch for what we all take for granted! But there again, he brought a car and didn't tell Olivia, I'd be pretty pissed if my oh did that! I'm glad Olivia and Ethan moved away especially when Kim moved into the town near them! I've googled what happens to Kim, she's the biggest hypocrite out there!( I hope they show those things!)
 
Especially if your husband (Ethan) has been brainwashed his whole life and has no strong sense of identity.
While I'm not a huge believer in the word brainwashing, I definitely think Ethan has been conditioned to have little direction of his own. He seems to go with the flow of whomever is around him, then lash out when pushed around one to many times (like when he yelled at Olivia for not going to his brother's grave).
I suspect the truth of the credit card thing is somewhere in the middle. Kim probably bought some MLM (multi-level marketing) tit to sell (like Lularoe) with a credit card in both Ethan's and Kim's name and he didn't object when it was brought up before hand. Olivia is not as naive as Ethan and took issue with a purchase that could hurt his credit score, since their married, it impacts her, too.
Once there was ruffled feathers, Kim probably paid the credit card back down, but Olivia and Kim can both hold a grudge and neither likes to have to say sorry.
I feel like either one could produce receipts that would support their version of events, but neither does... so that makes me think that neither story is 100% true.
 
I was hoping there might be some active chatter and Internet sleuthing for the recent revelations about Kim and Olivia's disagreement on Kim's unauthorized usage of Ethan's credit card. But it looks like this thread hasn't been too hot. Still, wanted to post to see if there was interest in resurrection.
try reddit. Thats what brought me here!
 
So Olivia and Ethan think they can run away from their problems by moving to Minnesota. The thing is you bring your problems right along with you.
 
Olivia has posted on Insta that her and Ethan have separated. No surprises there. Saw it coming a mile off. They didn’t seem connected for a long time and looked like there was no chemistry between them.
 
Just caught up, blimey Olivia bin him off, you're to good for him.
As for the mum dating, hypocrite springs to mind!
Will it show her dui??
 
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