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She's filming 'Annika' at the moment. It's going to be shown on 'Alibi' I think, later on in the year.

@Dailychat, are you in Ireland by any chance? I know last year they showed it on Irish television (RTE?) because my Irish SIL was so disappointed that it had started in the UK and she didn't realise it and missed the first two episodes, but she managed to watch the series when it was shown about 6 months later in Ireland.
 
DCICassieStuart said:
She's filming 'Annika' at the moment. It's going to be shown on 'Alibi' I think, later on in the year.

@Dailychat, are you in Ireland by any chance? I know last year they showed it on Irish television (RTE?) because my Irish SIL was so disappointed that it had started in the UK and she didn't realise it and missed the first two episodes, but she managed to watch the series when it was shown about 6 months later in Ireland.
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Yes I am, thanks for that I'll have a good search for it now.
 
Dailychat said:
Oh no has the new series started? I thought it wasn't til next week. Me and dh are half way through series 3 atm, is series 4 available to rewatch. Not in the UK so I don't think itv player works here.
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Does their actual website work where you are?
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Unforgotten - Series 4 - Episode 1 - ITVX

When a headless body is found on a scrap heap the team identify the victim: Matthew Walsh. Cassie wants to retire but to get her full pension she is forced to return to work.
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I think the stuff with her dad’s new girlfriend has been depicted almost half-through Cass’ eyes so we start to feel the way she does and consequently distrust the new gf. I found myself feeling angry and wound up watching, and I clocked it’s because I’m sponging up how she feels.

Cass presuming malicious intent on the part of someone her dad loves shows how anger & distrust has seeped from her work into her personal life, and how she approaches painful situations like she would a case (something she needs to solve, so with someone responsible. it’s also actually really common for people with trauma to assign blame in difficult, blameless situations)

I think it’s sad as she’s mirroring her dad’s angry, distrustful, self-isolating but ultimately scared behaviour, as he himself is deteriorating from another mental disease (dementia).

I think this programme is really good at showing the extent to which trauma can affect you mentally, and all the ugly, unkind and scary parts of mental illness. I really appreciate that it’s not glamourised or trivialised but is instead treated with appropriate sensitivity, like everything in Unforgotten :)
 
I love this programme but I’m honestly the worst armchair detective! I have no clue at all who murdered the guy. I do not like the two men they interviewed yesterday, the one who is still a policeman is dodgy and the charity man gives me the creeps. The two women are involved, I’m thinking the lady who is in the police the most as she flat out lied.

interested to hear other views (and directions as like I said, I’m awful at guessing!)
 
ploppityplop2 said:
I’m trying to get some screenshots of the flashbacks but they are so quick! I saw a packet of Opal Fruits in one of them!
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I think in that flashback there was two people having sex too. So I assume it was the woman having the flashback with the victim. It’s really difficult to tell. I love Unforgotten so much. Waiting a week for the next episode is a pisstake - it should be at least twice a week 😊.
 
Fanaff said:
I love this programme but I’m honestly the worst armchair detective! I have no clue at all who murdered the guy. I do not like the two men they interviewed yesterday, the one who is still a policeman is dodgy and the charity man gives me the creeps. The two women are involved, I’m thinking the lady who is in the police the most as she flat out lied.

interested to hear other views (and directions as like I said, I’m awful at guessing!)
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I think all four are involved
 
going by the flashbacks, Fiona may have had a thing with Ram and cheated on him with the victim when she had already had a few drinks on the night of their passing out party, which could have led to the altercation that led to his death? IIRC they said that a man and a woman were chasing the victim, so could be those two

the victim may have been racist toward Ram - I think that there will be something relevant to the plot that happened involving racism around Ram in the past, but whether that’s directly related to the murder is different! I don’t think they’d keep him as the guy who just “uses the race card” to get out of trouble. I think there will be a specific set of experiences that put a chip on his shoulder. he is a massive dick, but it seems a bit obvious to have him actually kill someone given he’s the only outwardly aggressive one so far.

I wonder if the Dean guy was dealing at the time of the murder/dealt to the victim. Maybe the victim found out he was a policeman and threatened to rat him out unless he got the drugs for free, etc.. think the guy who was storing the body was ruined by it mentally as he became an alcoholic and lived in isolation, so the murder could have been quite spur of the moment. If it went down on the night of the passing out party, with the information we have currently, i don’t think it was planned.

Also think Liz’s mum may know about the murder. I think the girl who offered to breathalyse for the policeman Cass interviewed is Liz and that’s where “balls of steel” comes from - being quite helpful and engaging in seemingly earnest conversation with a policeman when you have a body in the back. On the other hand, could be a red herring, could be the mum’s just a hateful cow. Maybe all these things could be true at once

They usually keep me guessing which is great
 
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greenvelvet said:
the victim may have been racist toward Ram - I think that there will be something relevant to the plot that happened involving racism around Ram in the past, but whether that’s directly related to the murder is different! I don’t think they’d keep him as the guy who just “uses the race card” to get out of trouble. I think there will be a specific set of experiences that put a chip on his shoulder. he is a massive dick, but it seems a bit obvious to have him actually kill someone given he’s the only outwardly aggressive one so far.
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The victim also had a Millwall tattoo on his arm, which they made a point of showing in the first ep. Millwall is a club that unfortunately does have some idiot racist fans, so that along with the description of an Asian man chasing him could point to some sort of altercation with Ram triggered by racism.

There are definitely clues starting the show now about all the characters but I’m struggling to link them all together. I like that there are so many suspects in this one, it’s not predictable or obvious what’s happened at all!
 
Lulu Goss said:
The victim also had a Millwall tattoo on his arm, which they made a point of showing in the first ep. Millwall is a club that unfortunately does have some idiot racist fans, so that along with the description of an Asian man chasing him could point to some sort of altercation with Ram triggered by racism.

There are definitely clues starting the show now about all the characters but I’m struggling to link them all together. I like that there are so many suspects in this one, it’s not predictable or obvious what’s happened at all!
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Yes, I completely agree! I wonder how they crossed paths as Millwall FC is quite far away from Southall. I think Dean could be what brought the two together?

I love how unpredictable it is. I wonder if maybe Liz wasn’t involved with the murder itself, but was consulted by a panicked Fiona (and some of others) immediately after it happened, just like how Fiona went to Liz for help in the most recent episode. Liz seems like the savviest and most level-headed of them all, so possibly could be the one that organised what to do with the body etc..
 
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