UK Politics #10

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Why the hell does that bloody Laura Kuenssberg have Piers Moron on her show. He looks even more smug and fat than usual if that's possible. Even worse, Nadine Dorries. What's the point of this programme? Having those two self-promoting twats on is such a turn-off. Desperate stuff. No wonder people are leaving legacy media in their droves. I think the last time I tuned in Hugh Fearnley-Wittingstall was on ffs. Not going to make this mistake again. Rant over.
 
bananabutter said:
Has anyone seen the traction that the general election petition is getting? I know parliament is just going to laugh at it, but 600k in a matter of hours is pretty quick…
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Probably as popular as the reverse brexit petition then.

I'm not surprised though, Labour won around 34% of votes. To put it into perspective, Tories got 44% of the vote in 2019.

More left leaning Labour voters aren't that fond of Starmer/this Labour and chose Green, Lib Dem or Independent. Tory votes were probably shared among some Labour and others Reform.

I don't think people are that passionate about Starmer/this Labour. They just wanted change and that was the option we had.
 
kev1974 said:
Once again no detail on how she is going to do anything about people that don't want to work or learn, just a hollow "there will be sanctions".



I predict record numbers of "can't work cos of me mental health mate".
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I wonder how they are going to differentiate between groups of young people. For example, I graduated uni and couldn't find anything despite applying to everything. I eventually hit lucky with some temping jobs around Christmas time but was told clearly that those were unlikely to become something permanent

Within that time, I did a lot of googling to find people with similar issues and there were many. One of the things that came up was that employers for supermarkets and similar jobs weren't overly keen on taking on recent graduates because the assumption is that they will leave once something related to their degree pops up

At the same time, plenty still score based on experience so if you don't have recent work experience that you can apply to these jobs you're a bit screwed

That's not something that can be fixed quickly and people can be punished for.

Also:
Kendall told the BBC that she believed there were people who can work but refused to do so, but said she thought these people were "in the minority" of benefit claimants.
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That being said they seem to be using this as an opportunity to improve apprenticeship opportunities which is a positive
 
monga said:
Not technically but if you’ve witnessed palliative care it’s the smooth transition to death through medication amongst other things.A medicated death.
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Doctrine of double effect - medication is given without the intent to cause/speed up death

Notable that the current assisted dying bill has a bit about people self-administering the medication. The doctor would only prepare it
 
Merpedy said:
Doctrine of double effect - medication is given without the intent to cause/speed up death

Notable that the current assisted dying bill has a bit about people self-administering the medication. The doctor would only prepare it
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I didn’t say it did either of those things I said it’s a medicated end as with assisted dying .
 
Merpedy said:
I'm pointing out the legal perspective on this still falls into palliative care

Doctors are not acting with the intent that this medication will speed up the patients death
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No , but if intent is there it’s technically suicide if the person administers their own meds isn’t that part of the debate?
 
monga said:
No , but if intent is there it’s technically suicide if the person administers their own meds isn’t that part of the debate?
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I would assume the self-administration side of it is more for the doctor's benefit

The debates around the whole thing seem to be more based on the usual religious arguments or concerns that this will go too far, and people will be choosing death for reasons that aren't "good enough"

Yet the bill being proposed is extremely limited in the grand scheme of things and provides protection via courts as well

I think if it passes and gets implemented there will probably be some interesting court cases. I predict the pressure groups will jump on anything with capacity questions as a person may have fluctuating capacity to make decisions, and there will likely be cases where a person will not be able to self-administer the medication themselves as well
 
Merpedy said:
I wonder how they are going to differentiate between groups of young people. For example, I graduated uni and couldn't find anything despite applying to everything. I eventually hit lucky with some temping jobs around Christmas time but was told clearly that those were unlikely to become something permanent
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The DWP doesn't differentiate between anyone. They treat everyone like tit 😁
 
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