Toddler Advice Thread #7 We tried but we are too tired

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A+ parenting award here, little WC has been very upset the last few nights, grumbling and crying but settled himself quite quickly (would cry for a minute then stop, then start again 20 minutes later, for an hour and then nothing else). Put him in a heavier sleeping bag and sleep suit last night and not a single peep out of him. Walked into his room this morning and it was freezing! Poor boy must have been cold!
 
A+ parenting award here, little WC has been very upset the last few nights, grumbling and crying but settled himself quite quickly (would cry for a minute then stop, then start again 20 minutes later, for an hour and then nothing else). Put him in a heavier sleeping bag and sleep suit last night and not a single peep out of him. Walked into his room this morning and it was freezing! Poor boy must have been cold!
Even three children in, I still find dressing them for sleep (and the day in general) during Autumn and Spring SO hard. It’s warm one day, freezing the next .
 
😩😩😩😩 it’s tough isn’t it! I feel like the only explanation is that he’s cold. La redoute have 3.5 tog sleeping bags on sale so I’ve ordered one 🤞🏽
We put him down at 7pm and he's currently lying on his back waving his legs in the air 🤣

His room got down to 16 degrees around 5am so I put the heating on and he ended up having a lie in until 8.30 so I think that might be the problem.
 
I literally have so much rage at the moment building up in me. Anyone else? Why are we made to feel like this? Not at the girls, they are what they are and mostly sweet and lovely, but my husband’s being a complete knob at the moment and I can’t stand him.
Yes me too atm I also feel like my patience has just disappeared even with my little boy which makes me so angry at myself 😭
 
I’m with you @WeHadFunRight and @shhh1712 - I had a meltdown on Saturday afternoon when I was sobbing with rage and frustration at my partner and then he was telling me to calm down (when is that ever a good thing to say to anyone?!) and trying to give me a cuddle and all I thought was I don’t want a bleeping hug I want you to listen to me, take in what I’m saying and do something about it.

It genuinely feels like Groundhog Day when I ask for things to be done, or for a bit of time to myself - mostly to do housework or house tasks like a food shop - and I’m treated like I’m being unreasonable.

And I try and discuss it with my mum or my best friend and I’m told - well why don’t you write him a shopping list or why don’t you do x, y, z to facilitate him doing a job and I feel like screaming because I have no more energy to be doing more work! Why is your solution for me to do more to help him help me?!

It is a seriously fucked up mentality that we have whereby men are seen as incapable of simple tasks and were supposed to swoop in and do all the leg work for them to then be showered in praise for doing a load of washing or cooking a meal.
 
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I’m with you @WeHadFunRight and @shhh1712 - I had a meltdown on Saturday afternoon when I was sobbing with rage and frustration at my partner and then he was telling me to calm down (when is that ever a good thing to say to anyone?!) and trying to give me a cuddle and all I thought was I don’t want a bleeping hug I want you to listen to me, take in what I’m saying and do something about it.

It genuinely feels like Groundhog Day when I ask for things to be done, or for a bit of time to myself - mostly to do housework or house tasks like a food shop - and I’m treated like I’m being unreasonable.

And I try and discuss it with my mum or my best friend and I’m told - well why don’t you write him a shopping list or why don’t you do x, y, z to facilitate him doing a job and I feel like screaming because I have no more energy to be doing more work! Why is your solution for me to do more to help him help me?!

It is a seriously fucked up mentality that we have whereby men are seen as incapable of simple tasks and were supposed to swoop in and do all the leg work for them to then be showered in praise for doing a load of washing or cooking a meal.
Yes why don’t you just think for him too, lovely? Not like he’s a grown bleeping man who should have some basic wherewithal about him.

I went to brunch yesterday, I never go out, I never get to do anything without the kids in tow. A brunch once a quarter with some girlfriends. Been in the calendar for months.

He has been useless for ages now, he might stack the dishwasher now and again but regularly the kitchen is a bomb site, I try my best but I am putting the washes on, the washes out, I’m doing the meals, the big shops, im cleaning the bathrooms and hoovering, working full time, I’m sorting their clothes in the mornings, I’m picking them up from school and nursery every day, I’m chasing my tail constantly it’s demoralising, he doesn’t stay up past 8:30pm. He takes the baby to bed at 7ish and by 8 the house is filled with the sound of his vile snoring.

it has got to me so much recently I thought what a bleeping idiot I am staying up late tidying, cleaning, planning, preparing when that lazy head is snoring away not caring about what the girls will wear tomorrow, does the baby have a winter coat and hat? Does her puddle suit fit her and is it packed in her nursery bag? Has 6 got PE tomorrow and is it library day, where is that book, have we updated her reading record? Are we doing enough maths with her…. SO I DECIDED TO STOP

when I got home on Saturday I was fumbling with the keys in the lock because I’d had to take his keys because he had to take MY car (another story that puts him in a terrible light) and he has two keys on the fob that are identical, one is our front door key and the other isn’t. Anyway, I could see him through the glass walking back and forth the hall ignoring me trying to get in the house, then when I came in he didn’t say one word to me, poured himself a beer and sloped off to bed. What the duck had I done wrong exactly? 6 said he’d been complaining about the mess and getting places on time. He’s a head. They’re such selfish twats.

I actually prefer him not being around half the time because at least then I know I’m going to be on my own and I have to do it all myself anyway.

“We” took 6 out in her bike today, and he left her bike outside by the bins…………….. we live in a safe area but people steal just about anything don’t they, so out I go in my bloody pyjamas to put the bike in the lean to.

I seriously, genuinely, dislike him right now.

he “made” dinner tonight and dropped vegetables all over the microwave as he was serving up. He’s a tosser.
 
Yes why don’t you just think for him too, lovely? Not like he’s a grown bleeping man who should have some basic wherewithal about him.

I went to brunch yesterday, I never go out, I never get to do anything without the kids in tow. A brunch once a quarter with some girlfriends. Been in the calendar for months.

He has been useless for ages now, he might stack the dishwasher now and again but regularly the kitchen is a bomb site, I try my best but I am putting the washes on, the washes out, I’m doing the meals, the big shops, im cleaning the bathrooms and hoovering, working full time, I’m sorting their clothes in the mornings, I’m picking them up from school and nursery every day, I’m chasing my tail constantly it’s demoralising, he doesn’t stay up past 8:30pm. He takes the baby to bed at 7ish and by 8 the house is filled with the sound of his vile snoring.

it has got to me so much recently I thought what a bleeping idiot I am staying up late tidying, cleaning, planning, preparing when that lazy head is snoring away not caring about what the girls will wear tomorrow, does the baby have a winter coat and hat? Does her puddle suit fit her and is it packed in her nursery bag? Has 6 got PE tomorrow and is it library day, where is that book, have we updated her reading record? Are we doing enough maths with her…. SO I DECIDED TO STOP

when I got home on Saturday I was fumbling with the keys in the lock because I’d had to take his keys because he had to take MY car (another story that puts him in a terrible light) and he has two keys on the fob that are identical, one is our front door key and the other isn’t. Anyway, I could see him through the glass walking back and forth the hall ignoring me trying to get in the house, then when I came in he didn’t say one word to me, poured himself a beer and sloped off to bed. What the duck had I done wrong exactly? 6 said he’d been complaining about the mess and getting places on time. He’s a head. They’re such selfish twats.

I actually prefer him not being around half the time because at least then I know I’m going to be on my own and I have to do it all myself anyway.

“We” took 6 out in her bike today, and he left her bike outside by the bins…………….. we live in a safe area but people steal just about anything don’t they, so out I go in my bloody pyjamas to put the bike in the lean to.

I seriously, genuinely, dislike him right now.

he “made” dinner tonight and dropped vegetables all over the microwave as he was serving up. He’s a tosser.
I don’t know how you do it. I mean, I’m the one that’s sorting stuff for the morning and doing the laundry because I genuinely don’t think that enters my husbands head but, I stayed in bed this morning and the dishwasher was on, the kids were dressed, the kitchen had been tidied.
He’d never ever ever think to buy them clothes in advance or book holiday camp, but he arranged to work from home when I went back to work so he could help out more. He has spent all of today at sporting activities for the kids, whilst I spent the first half of the day doing house-y stuff and the second half out with friends.
Very aware that things don’t always read right and so I’m basically trying to give you an example of what it’s like here xxx

PS he made dinner tonight and toad in the hole with unrisen Yorkshire pudding 😂😂😂 but he text me and asked what was meant for tea tonight (he knows I’d be fuming if he deviates from my menu that is collated on what activities we have in an evening!!!!) xxx
 
I don’t know how you do it. I mean, I’m the one that’s sorting stuff for the morning and doing the laundry because I genuinely don’t think that enters my husbands head but, I stayed in bed this morning and the dishwasher was on, the kids were dressed, the kitchen had been tidied.
He’d never ever ever think to buy them clothes in advance or book holiday camp, but he arranged to work from home when I went back to work so he could help out more. He has spent all of today at sporting activities for the kids, whilst I spent the first half of the day doing house-y stuff and the second half out with friends.
Very aware that things don’t always read right and so I’m basically trying to give you an example of what it’s like here xxx

PS he made dinner tonight and toad in the hole with unrisen Yorkshire pudding 😂😂😂 but he text me and asked what was meant for tea tonight (he knows I’d be fuming if he deviates from my menu that is collated on what activities we have in an evening!!!!) xxx
It does help because it reinforces that I’m getting a tit deal. My friend’s husband (our friend) has ants in his pants and he’s always doing something, usually tidying and cleaning something or getting something done. Mine looks like a sloth by comparison, just something a bit more than nothing, and that doesn’t come with a huffy little attitude all the time would be nice. It’s just embarrassing at this point.

sorry, ETA the wfh thing is so pertinent because he’s just gone and got himself a new job…. With a commute that is double his old commute at 1 hour 45 and every time I ask him about whether he’s talked to them about wfh options he keeps shrugging me off. He’s literally inconvenienced everyone in the house (the girls will now have to go to breakfast club most mornings so much earlier start and longer days for them) and he’s not acknowledging it at all. I’m speechless at his selfishness and lack of forethought or consider for anyone else in this house.

sorry guys, has any one called the wahmbulance? I really needed to get all this off my chest.
 
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It does help because it reinforces that I’m getting a tit deal. My friend’s husband (our friend) has ants in his pants and he’s always doing something, usually tidying and cleaning something or getting something done. Mine looks like a sloth by comparison, just something a bit more than nothing, and that doesn’t come with a huffy little attitude all the time would be nice. It’s just embarrassing at this point.

sorry, ETA the wfh thing is so pertinent because he’s just gone and got himself a new job…. With a commute that is double his old commute at 1 hour 45 and every time I ask him about whether he’s talked to them about wfh options he keeps shrugging me off. He’s literally inconvenienced everyone in the house (the girls will now have to go to breakfast club most mornings so much earlier start and longer days for them) and he’s not acknowledging it at all. I’m speechless at his selfishness and lack of forethought or consider for anyone else in this house.

sorry guys, has any one called the wahmbulance? I really needed to get all this off my chest.
I say take the time to write it down and share with other people who can understand. I think if I started I could easily fill a whole thread with entries about some of the nonsensical behaviour - I don’t want to believe it’s all pure selfishness and that some of it is a staggering lack of comprehension hence actually drawing a diagram on Saturday showing my lack of time for myself. Even then he wanted to go into how I’d represented things on the diagram rather than just see the point it was trying to make…
 
It does help because it reinforces that I’m getting a tit deal. My friend’s husband (our friend) has ants in his pants and he’s always doing something, usually tidying and cleaning something or getting something done. Mine looks like a sloth by comparison, just something a bit more than nothing, and that doesn’t come with a huffy little attitude all the time would be nice. It’s just embarrassing at this point.

sorry, ETA the wfh thing is so pertinent because he’s just gone and got himself a new job…. With a commute that is double his old commute at 1 hour 45 and every time I ask him about whether he’s talked to them about wfh options he keeps shrugging me off. He’s literally inconvenienced everyone in the house (the girls will now have to go to breakfast club most mornings so much earlier start and longer days for them) and he’s not acknowledging it at all. I’m speechless at his selfishness and lack of forethought or consider for anyone else in this house.

sorry guys, has any one called the wahmbulance? I really needed to get all this off my chest.
It goes back to the age old thing of their life never changes. They don't have to ask for you to look after the kids for nights out, having a shower, nipping to the shop, yet mum's tend to feel like they have to (I know I do).

My hubby until recently was like yours. The only thing that's worked is I have a list of things that need doing & it is expected that we both tick it off over the week. He went as far as to have his own colour to tick off so he can evidence he does stuff (he was having a petty moment but it worked). Could this be something you do?

Other than that, go super petty (again I did this). I didn't wash his clothes, cook his tea, set an alarm to get him up for a week or two. He realised how much he needed me when he had no clean socks 🤣
 
It goes back to the age old thing of their life never changes. They don't have to ask for you to look after the kids for nights out, having a shower, nipping to the shop, yet mum's tend to feel like they have to (I know I do).

My hubby until recently was like yours. The only thing that's worked is I have a list of things that need doing & it is expected that we both tick it off over the week. He went as far as to have his own colour to tick off so he can evidence he does stuff (he was having a petty moment but it worked). Could this be something you do?

Other than that, go super petty (again I did this). I didn't wash his clothes, cook his tea, set an alarm to get him up for a week or two. He realised how much he needed me when he had no clean socks 🤣
I’m not making a list for him, he’s in his forties, he can duck off. Xxx
 
I’m not making a list for him, he’s in his forties, he can duck off. Xxx
Amen to this. I’ve run through what needs to go in our son’s playgroup and nursery bag about 4 times. If I had problem with memory or comprehension then I would make notes myself. No apparently *I* have to write the list and stick it to the cupboard. Last time I checked he could hold a pen.

I think I’ve reached a point where I want to stop the enablement of him being useless. Sometimes I wonder if this is counterintuitive but honestly it will become another expectation that if I want anything done I have to write down instructions and then we’ll end up having arguments about whether the instructions were clear, and heaven forbid I forget something as that will be brought up as my failing.

Can I ask opinions on nursery/playgroup protocol/expectations? My son keeps being picked up in filthy and soaked clothes, socks that are soaking wet, and trainers that are trashed and smell like dirty puddles. He is sent into these places with wellies, waterproof over-trousers and/or a puddle suit. He’s often wearing the wellies on collection from nursery because his trainers are unwearable but the wellies are pristine.

The waterproof trousers and puddlesuit are also pristine (they have never been worn). Does anyone know why they’d be refusing to dress him properly for outside play? It creates more work for them in needing to change him and it’s expensive for us as we’ve had to buy 2 more pairs of trainers in his size because they need to be washed and dried so frequently. They know he has this stuff in his bag, it’s flagged at drop off and they discover it anyway when changing him.
 
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