The Real Housewives of #8

Should Bravo keep Jen Shah in RHOSLC considering she plead guilty?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 40.2%
  • No

    Votes: 50 41.0%
  • Couldn't care less

    Votes: 23 18.9%

  • Total voters
    122
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Yeah I agree, I think the reunion will be very disappointing, especially with that crap presenter Cohen!
I just hope Garcelle has her say about the awful way they treated her son and those disgusting racialist tweets .
I also hope Garcelle has her say... and that all the other terrible things the flop force has done are discussed. I have zero hope for better than Andy at the reunions. Andy is executive producer, these women as his cash cows.. he's not going to push issues with them like we want
 
I also hope Garcelle has her say... and that all the other terrible things the flop force has done are discussed. I have zero hope for better than Andy at the reunions. Andy is executive producer, these women as his cash cows.. he's not going to push issues with them like we want

I heard on a podcast recently that when they used to take phonecall for questions the telephone operator would tell the phone caller what questions to ask, they weren’t allowed their own questions. Andy is not a good person, listen to some podcasts and he is awful when you get into his normal behaviour, boys, work relationships, hookups, etc it’s terrible.

RHOBH
latest episode = aftermath of Erika explaining court vs public opinion and legal process
crystal = stay out of stuff you are a flip flopped and attack anyone to make yourself look better

good Erika = wants justice to be decided through court of law, stated will comply with court orders/investigation,
stated that court law is more important than court of public opinion
bad Erika = used alleged victims as a term, no sympathy

thought the next day talking in Private with normal voice and calmly explaining was far better put across. felt more compellled to listen when she is talking rationally and sober than the drunk rant that had a lot of frustration , also felt bad that Garcelle made it into a group discussion again! One on one only now, Erika is not good in group discussion settings we have learnt this after the two dinner party Erika monster moments.

my interpretation of her mindset (assuming she is innocent of knowing about fraud):

wife been named in lawsuit against husband’s firm (never worked there and is not a lawyer so would not be involved in legal documentation or money exchange/terms) = I would not be happy to be dragged into husbands and firms lawsuit if I was just the wife, what did I have to do with it.
wife named in multiple lawsuits when lawsuit should be only named for law firm that dealt with the case (nobody else)

alledged victims = obs she has been told by own lawyers that some of the victims in lawsuit could have been paid and are joining in on the lawsuit bandwagon (not sure how that would happen but they would be dismissed in court but erika’s lawyers have to prove the cvictims had already received their settlement money)

have sympathy/no sympathy = have sympathy for victims and they should be paid but do not have sympathy for bringing a lawsuit that includes wives of lawyers, should be directed to lay firm first then if they don’t get their settlements amount, separate new lawsuit against firms partners and spouses
 
wife been named in lawsuit against husband’s firm (never worked there and is not a lawyer so would not be involved in legal documentation or money exchange/terms) = I would not be happy to be dragged into husbands and firms lawsuit if I was just the wife, what did I have to do with it.
wife named in multiple lawsuits when lawsuit should be only named for law firm that dealt with the case (nobody else)
There is question whether or not Erika knew that Tom was stealing money from victims funds and that is why she is in these lawsuits. If she knew where the money that funded her lavish life was coming from, she belongs on those lawsuits. That part can play out in the court system where it is.

Don't buy into Erikas bs that she's not a lawyer and didn't steal from anyone. If your partner goes and robs a bank tonight and you know they did and you spend the money... expect your arse to be behind bars. Erika claimed in the last episode that lawsuit being dismissed meant she was cleared - we all know that is not true - it was refiled in California. Erika is not a reliable source for facts.

As far as the women go, especially Crystal, no one is talking about her being involved in the theft, nor that she knew - they were only talking about her attitude towards the victims and her attitude is trash. Period. Dot.
 
There is question whether or not Erika knew that Tom was stealing money from victims funds and that is why she is in these lawsuits. If she knew where the money that funded her lavish life was coming from, she belongs on those lawsuits. That part can play out in the court system where it is.

Don't buy into Erikas bs that she's not a lawyer and didn't steal from anyone. If your partner goes and robs a bank tonight and you know they did and you spend the money... expect your arse to be behind bars. Erika claimed in the last episode that lawsuit being dismissed meant she was cleared - we all know that is not true - it was refiled in California. Erika is not a reliable source for facts.

As far as the women go, especially Crystal, no one is talking about her being involved in the theft, nor that she knew - they were only talking about her attitude towards the victims and her attitude is trash. Period. Dot.

I said on the basis she is innocent, not that she is innocent. I don’t know and neither does anyone else, we haven’t seen the evidence just the media and documentary narratives which are not legal documents.
I am Happy to wait for the court to decide how much she knew or did not know.

personally think she was added as part of a blanket strategy. the law firm was in charge of the money, the accountant and partners should have monitored the money much more closely. They are guilty of neglect at the very least.

as to the idea of bank robbers wife knowing of crime = charged as accessory not as the robber, but still guilty, so yes to that.

the lawsuit being dismissed = not good enough evidence to take to court in that state don’t know much about evidence but can’t see it being much different from state to state. California not much different than everywhere else, not sure where else they can file it after that.

crystal = just thought that erika had already been asked multiple times about lawsuit in group setting, talked to Garcelle one on one about victims and got an answer. Didn’t think it needed to be discussed again (repetitive episode to fill in a otherwise boring season with not much going on other than Sutton vs Diana).


think RHOBH needs to bring in other drama as this season has been pretty boring
drama:
sutton hissyfit at dinner - lead to Sutton vs Diana (hard to watch in aspen)
dorit PK police = non event, put in to give Dorit airtime
kathy leaving = yet to occur and held to the last episode as it’s soo dramatic = so not going to be.
kyle moaning about Sutton/Garcelle/Dorit = gives Kyle a storyline and so other the ham acting with tears
garcelle kids yelled at by Erika = genuine drama, two episodes properly then dragged out to fill episodes.

producers do better, I’m tired of Erika legal drama pulled in every other episode, Sutton being bullied then hugged by members of FFF, crystal’s house with rob for a catch up chat, PK in general.
give us some fun, giggles, girls trips with bad shopping outfits and weird activities not this hard to watch horribleness
 
I said on the basis she is innocent, not that she is innocent. I don’t know and neither does anyone else, we haven’t seen the evidence just the media and documentary narratives which are not legal documents.
I am Happy to wait for the court to decide how much she knew or did not know.

personally think she was added as part of a blanket strategy. the law firm was in charge of the money, the accountant and partners should have monitored the money much more closely. They are guilty of neglect at the very least.

as to the idea of bank robbers wife knowing of crime = charged as accessory not as the robber, but still guilty, so yes to that.

the lawsuit being dismissed = not good enough evidence to take to court in that state don’t know much about evidence but can’t see it being much different from state to state. California not much different than everywhere else, not sure where else they can file it after that.

crystal = just thought that erika had already been asked multiple times about lawsuit in group setting, talked to Garcelle one on one about victims and got an answer. Didn’t think it needed to be discussed again (repetitive episode to fill in a otherwise boring season with not much going on other than Sutton vs Diana).


think RHOBH needs to bring in other drama as this season has been pretty boring
drama:
sutton hissyfit at dinner - lead to Sutton vs Diana (hard to watch in aspen)
dorit PK police = non event, put in to give Dorit airtime
kathy leaving = yet to occur and held to the last episode as it’s soo dramatic = so not going to be.
kyle moaning about Sutton/Garcelle/Dorit = gives Kyle a storyline and so other the ham acting with tears
garcelle kids yelled at by Erika = genuine drama, two episodes properly then dragged out to fill episodes.

producers do better, I’m tired of Erika legal drama pulled in every other episode, Sutton being bullied then hugged by members of FFF, crystal’s house with rob for a catch up chat, PK in general.
give us some fun, giggles, girls trips with bad shopping outfits and weird activities not this hard to watch horribleness
As Erika said the court of law is where things are decided, and that's where Erika's guilt or innocence is right now. If Erika didn't yell and scream every time she is asked public opinion might not be judging her as guilty right now. She could have immediately said something like "this is a court case and I cannot discuss it" ALL of those ladies know they can't talk about legal issues, instead Erika fights with fans on social media, gives the finger to victims on her social media, screams "I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE BUT ME" and tells crazy stories about Tom. For like 5 seasons he was her knight in shining armour "he let's me be me" "we are 100% partners in life" but when this stuff comes out "he's a cheating bastard that kept me in the dark" Erika has created the public opinion of herself.

As for Crystal not needing to talk about it again. Well Garcelle started that conversation with the women, then decided she didn't want it to get back to Erika wrong, so called her over and they all shared their opinions... but Erika unleashed her drunken anger on Crystal. And well they are on a reality show... this is Erika's reality... of course it is being talked about. The women are talking about things that are coming out as they are happening. If Erika doesn't want to answer questions about her life, she should leave the show

I don't think you were defending her. I was just making a point that she is named in these lawsuits because there are questions about what she knew or didn't know. Erika has clearly stated that court is the place to decide what's true and what isn't and well that's exactly where she is

I agree with other points you've made about the season. I don't want to make this a novel. Just a couple of points you made stood out to me. I sick of the Erika drama as well. If she cooled down and said less, maybe the ladies wouldn't have so many questions
 
Can you imagine this line up!?! Amazing. I would also have Brandi too...
 

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