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Maybe for an older child, or a teenager who can pick and choose when they want to see the “not live in parent” but Charlie has young children with Shannon and I really don’t think 4 days a month is enough. For some parents it’s none negotiable and like said above people work away and some hours and careers can’t be adjusted, but I think Charlie has perfect capability and time to have those boys more, he just simply doesn’t.

It’s also not anyone’s problem except Charlie’s he still lives at home.
 
lalalulah said:
for someone that works full time all week? that’s every other weekend both days what more does she expect ? if he had every weekend it’s unfair as she would only get the routine things in the week. Picking them up after work is a possibility maybe here and there but of course he’s going to treat them as he doesn’t see them a lot so they will just be hyper. I’m sure he still lives with his parents also, if he had his own place maybe he could pick them up a few nights a week and have them stay there but what about child care when he needs to go to his job ? We all saw how she was on the show she was very moany she would just moan if he gave them back to her when he started work in the morning
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I said “4 days a month is quite alot for someone who works full time” it’s more than most get 😂 as it’s not loads but she can hardly moan about it
 
Shannon will just have babies with whoever is willing to do the deed. I’m sure she’ll want to outdo her mum who has 6 children. She knew the type of person Charlie was when they met and she chose to have two babies with him. 4 days a month is the same as someone I know who works full time and has their child every other weekend. If Shannon wants him to have more time with them than she needs to stop airing their dirty laundry on social media and be an adult. I think it’s pretty low to claim he’s posting old videos.
 
Well we don’t know their routines or his work schedule but he’s in a trade and works so it’s more than likely 7-5 , 8-5 most days , i think the boys have a reasonable bedtime 7/730 each to their own but for me when my daughters dad takes her out after he gets back from work which is 530 by the time he’s actually drove home then takes her out for dinner it’s 730 when he gets back and she’s full of sugar and it’s more hassle for me 😂 maybe i’m just too into a routine to see the problem
 
I personally don't feel 4 days a month is alot but if his working in construction bearing in mind we don't know his work times, but most start 7-8am and finish around 4- 5pm so unless Charlie could take them after his finished work which to me is kind of pointless as they probably are in bed by 8pm the latest, then what would he do with regards to him able to get to work early hours in the morning, as it's either drop them to a childminder that is able to take them to school and nursery or drop them back to Shannon's early morning. Or have them for an hour or so after his finished work every other day or so.

But I can't help but feel with Shannon whatever Charlie does would never be good enough.

He must have them every other weekend so I'm guessing unless Shannon doesn't mind not having her children at the weekends where she is also able to do fun stuff with them, then maybe Charlie could have them every weekend.

But airing her business via social media is definitely not the way to go about things as this is not the first time she has done so
 
Snoopy_988 said:
I personally don't feel 4 days a month is alot but if his working in construction bearing in mind we don't know his work times, but most start 7-8am and finish around 4- 5pm so unless Charlie could take them after his finished work which to me is kind of pointless as they probably are in bed by 8pm the latest, then what would he do with regards to him able to get to work early hours in the morning, as it's either drop them to a childminder that is able to take them to school and nursery or drop them back to Shannon's early morning. Or have them for an hour or so after his finished work every other day or so.

But I can't help but feel with Shannon whatever Charlie does would never be good enough.

He must have them every other weekend so I'm guessing unless Shannon doesn't mind not having her children at the weekends where she is also able to do fun stuff with them, then maybe Charlie could have them every weekend.

But airing her business via social media is definitely not the way to go about things as this is not the first time she has done so
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i don’t think it’s a lot but it’s quite a lot considering he works full time , which is what i said originally ,Shannon doesn’t understand that because she’s never worked a day in her life. If he was really that bad he’d have them one day every other week and not even over night.

What you said is pretty much what i said he more than likely works 7/8-5 i know he used to put up stories with the time on and it was always 730 ish in hivis gear , she makes things very difficult for him so if he was to take them out after work she would just moan about that and i think it would actually work out more hassle for her, with hyper children on a later routine ,he lives at home so not much space for the boys so why uproot them from their mums house with their own bedroom to share his room with him where they probably wouldn’t sleep and would go back to Shannon cranky. Another thing for her to moan about. I think the child support money issue is understandable but she can’t really complain at him having them every other weekend over friday-sunday. Some people are lucky to get even a night 😂
 
Just because it’s more than a complete deadbeat who never sees his children doesn’t mean it isn’t a piss poor amount of time. Why are people bending over backwards to excuse Charlie who we all saw with our own eyes being a useless, unpleasant prick? Rolling around in a car worth more than most people his age could afford yet he tries to avoid paying a minimal amount of maintenance. Did he SEEM like he was always working long hours when he kept pissing off to the gym? You always get the “ThErES tWO sIdEs To EvErY sToRY” brigade out in force…yeah there is and we’ve heard the same old story time and time again. Same people who love to bash Shannon for not having a job and bring up council housing every couple of months cause they’ve read too many Daily Mails. Gets right on my tits.
 
sausage dog said:
Just because it’s more than a complete deadbeat who never sees his children doesn’t mean it isn’t a piss poor amount of time. Why are people bending over backwards to excuse Charlie who we all saw with our own eyes being a useless, unpleasant prick? Rolling around in a car worth more than most people his age could afford yet he tries to avoid paying a minimal amount of maintenance. Did he SEEM like he was always working long hours when he kept pissing off to the gym? You always get the “ThErES tWO sIdEs To EvErY sToRY” brigade out in force…yeah there is and we’ve heard the same old story time and time again. Same people who love to bash Shannon for not having a job and bring up council housing every couple of months cause they’ve read too many Daily Mails. Gets right on my tits.
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His car isn’t that expensive it’s an older range rover if it’s still the same one from the series, my daughters dad works full time and drives a 30 grand car and he’s 23 and he worked hard for what he’s got. Age has nothing to do with what car you can afford 😂. He spoils her rotten when he’s with her but i wouldn’t expect him to give me more of his hard earned money just because he earns more, he’ll buy her clothes and shoes for his house and give me £300 a month which covers all her food and nappies. Just cause he earns near to £4000 a month doesn’t mean he should give me half 😂 I’m not bashing her for not having a job, whether she chooses not to work that’s fine but she doesn’t understand how the working world actually is and pretends like she does that’s the issue. No one even bought up council housing 😂 but charlie lives at his parents it isn’t cheap to privately rent and he doesn’t really need to he’s best off saving his money at home while he can ,yet Shannon does have the advantage of her own place council or not it doesn’t matter, the boys have their own room there and all i said is why make them share a bedroom with their dad in the week which they probably won’t get a good nights sleep in and be tired the next day. You need to chill 😂 everyone has different opinions. if he works similar hours to my daughters dad which he probably does as he does site work then having the boys 4 days a week aka every other weekend all weekend is fine and it’s not really something to complain about.

She will think he has to help her more just because she’s pregnant which isn’t anything to do with him , same way how on the show she offered to have her mums kid then moaned at Charlie when he didn’t help, well Charlie didn’t offer she did. If she worked and had child care for the boys then yes maybe Charlie could have them in the week and drop them to child care ,but she doesn’t so the only place to drop them too when he leaves for work is hers which she would moan about 😅😂.

lalalulah said:
His car isn’t that expensive it’s an older range rover if it’s still the same one from the series, my daughters dad works full time and drives a 30 grand car and he’s 23 and he worked hard for what he’s got. Age has nothing to do with what car you can afford 😂. He spoils her rotten when he’s with her but i wouldn’t expect him to give me more of his hard earned money just because he earns more, he’ll buy her clothes and shoes for his house and give me £300 a month which covers all her food and nappies. Just cause he earns near to £4000 a month doesn’t mean he should give me half 😂 I’m not bashing her for not having a job, whether she chooses not to work that’s fine but she doesn’t understand how the working world actually is and pretends like she does that’s the issue. No one even bought up council housing 😂 but charlie lives at his parents it isn’t cheap to privately rent and he doesn’t really need to he’s best off saving his money at home while he can ,yet Shannon does have the advantage of her own place council or not it doesn’t matter, the boys have their own room there and all i said is why make them share a bedroom with their dad in the week which they probably won’t get a good nights sleep in and be tired the next day. You need to chill 😂 everyone has different opinions. if he works similar hours to my daughters dad which he probably does as he does site work then having the boys 4 days a week aka every other weekend all weekend is fine and it’s not really something to complain about.

She will think he has to help her more just because she’s pregnant which isn’t anything to do with him , same way how on the show she offered to have her mums kid then moaned at Charlie when he didn’t help, well Charlie didn’t offer she did. If she worked and had child care for the boys then yes maybe Charlie could have them in the week and drop them to child care ,but she doesn’t so the only place to drop them too when he leaves for work is hers which she would moan about 😅😂.
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anyway this thread isn’t about any of this !! everyone has their own opinion on what amount of time spent with the kids is enough.

Personally i think he won’t have a lot of time of an evening to take them out we don’t know how far or close he lives to Shannons by the time he gets there after work it’s 5-530 then it could be 15/20 mins even more at that time in rush hour traffic to his then he’d have to bring them back for 730/745 for a reasonable bed time i don’t really see how he can do more than what he does ,it’s not fair for him to do every weekend as then she gets no fun time with the boys.

It’s their business to discuss whether he needs to spend more time or help her more not for her to put all over social media and bash him just so people feel sorry for her.
 
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4 days a month might sound bad to some people (I personally think it’s ideal to do more than that but he may work a lot) . Fact is he’s still seeing his children, yet he’s being made out to be a complete absent father. I think Shannon bashing him on Instagram is childish and you can imagine what she’s like to him directly. I know it’s debatable but in my opinion she trapped him both times with both boys, if he’s such a tit person why were u desperate for another child with him and why are you rushing into having more if it’s all so hard on you 😴 why doesn’t her new bf tell her to stop speaking about her ex? I’m also guessing once a week or every other weekend he is seeing them and that time is probably nice quality time doing things. I’m sure Mia said Manley has his daughter every other weekend (and we all know he doesn’t work or do duck all productive 😂) and no ones mentioned that . A lot of people prefer that as both parents get weekends to themselves and weekends with the child. She should be happy she had her 4 days a month so she had time alone to lay on her back and make another one 😂😂
 
He was an absolute cock on the show, Shannon acted spoiled and he probably played up to that. My kids dad has never even met her never mind took her for 4 days a month and even I think that’s tit. I was a single parent working a full time job and looked after my child 24/7. No excuses at all for that pathetic amount of time it’s about time management. If he didn’t act like a wanker on the show maybe id think Shannon was exaggerating but she’s got no reason to lie IMO. Everything he said and did indicates that she’s got every reason to blast him like this.
I think she wanted to be the perfect couple when she got pregnant the second time and she was daft for that
 
Jennytea said:
4 days a month might sound bad to some people (I personally think it’s ideal to do more than that but he may work a lot) . Fact is he’s still seeing his children, yet he’s being made out to be a complete absent father. I think Shannon bashing him on Instagram is childish and you can imagine what she’s like to him directly. I know it’s debatable but in my opinion she trapped him both times with both boys, if he’s such a tit person why were u desperate for another child with him and why are you rushing into having more if it’s all so hard on you 😴 why doesn’t her new bf tell her to stop speaking about her ex? I’m also guessing once a week or every other weekend he is seeing them and that time is probably nice quality time doing things. I’m sure Mia said Manley has his daughter every other weekend (and we all know he doesn’t work or do duck all productive 😂) and no ones mentioned that . A lot of people prefer that as both parents get weekends to themselves and weekends with the child. She should be happy she had her 4 days a month so she had time alone to lay on her back and make another one 😂😂
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thank you 😂🙌🏻 finally someone agrees, at the end of the day he’s had them enough that she’s been able to meet someone new and get pregnant and also has time to get her lips and eyelashes done every month.
 
I think 4 days a month is enough, that’s every other weekend. For children in a routine after nursery/school and him finishing work it’d be too late. I don’t dislike Shannon (never really had much opinion on her) but she seems immature and it’s embarrassing for her to post that, seems like the whole Q&A was just so she could dig Charlie out.
 
😂 😂 4 days a month is absolutely pathetic. Unless you’re working away or live a great distance away there is no excuse to see your young children for that little amount of time. I’m surprised they would know who he was. From the show it was clear where his priorities lay, at the gym, so I doubt that’s changed a whole lot. Plenty of parents work full time, whether they’re together or not, and see their kids a decent amount of time. You make time for the things you want
 
Rosy said:
😂 😂 4 days a month is absolutely pathetic. Unless you’re working away or live a great distance away there is no excuse to see your young children for that little amount of time. I’m surprised they would know who he was. From the show it was clear where his priorities lay, at the gym, so I doubt that’s changed a whole lot. Plenty of parents work full time, whether they’re together or not, and see their kids a decent amount of time. You make time for the things you want
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That’s usually what a court will give to dads. If they fight they can get more. Or some parents choose to do half and half but I personally think that’s quite a lot for a young child to cope with moving between two houses. Ive had experience of this and with cafcas and even they discourage that. Every other weekend is seen as the normal amount for a child to spend with their other parent. As a mother I was happy with that as I hated being away from my children but knew they should spend time with their dad too. If I was a dad though I would want more time. But it’s what’s best for the children at the end of the day. If Charlie is a narcissist it’s not healthy for him to be around those children anyway. So as little time as possible is best. She knew what he was like when she chose to have children with him so I don’t know why she is slagging him off publicly now. Not a great thing to be doing as the kids will pick up on stuff like that.
 
What is this latest thing as well of everyone calling each other narcissists .. sure there are many people who are actual narcissists and whom have narcissistic traits but people throw the word around so easily .. Charlie didn’t give me that vibe tbh , he didn’t seem very intelligent either, ffs he didn’t even realise u had to earn a certain level of money to get a 300k mortgage 😂 he didn’t seem very manipulative or cunning to me, just a prick.

And if anything narcissistic people come off amazing around a lot of people and he would’ve been trying to look amazing on camera if that was the case but he came off just a normal lad tbf who was a bit self centred but I don’t blame him for finding Shannon annoying 😂 calling people narcissists just seems like a new trend and people don’t actually understand the depths it goes to
 
If Charlie DOES work full time then I suppose every other weekend is "normal" - however surely he could see them even one evening a week? Youre telling me he couldnt go round to Shannon's and play with them for an hour? I know they two of them dont get on ffs but youre PARENTS to these kids, make it work, be civil. There must be some more time in the month he could get than just the 2 weekends. But Shannon doesnt help putting that online either it only creates tension. And if she does have to chase him for child maintenance she should go to the CSA or whatever theyre called these days, if he really WONT pay they can have it taken out his wages or benefits whatever he lives on!
 
sparklingdee said:
If Charlie DOES work full time then I suppose every other weekend is "normal" - however surely he could see them even one evening a week? Youre telling me he couldnt go round to Shannon's and play with them for an hour? I know they two of them dont get on ffs but youre PARENTS to these kids, make it work, be civil. There must be some more time in the month he could get than just the 2 weekends. But Shannon doesnt help putting that online either it only creates tension. And if she does have to chase him for child maintenance she should go to the CSA or whatever theyre called these days, if he really WONT pay they can have it taken out his wages or benefits whatever he lives on!
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We have to remember we don’t know what Shannon’s rules are. She could be saying he has to see them weekends only or could be calling the shots saying they can’t be out visiting at certain times. We also don’t know what hours he works. There is always two sides to a story. He may even be having them every weekend but just on a Saturday and taking them home on a Sunday because of school/nursery/work on the Monday and she’s classing it as one day a week. Who really knows. Shannon came off VERY dramatic on the show, small things were made out to be the end of the world with her so I have to take what she says with a pinch of salt.
 
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