Teen Mum UK #12

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I don't think she was moaning about going to shops. I think her point is that if your father was extremely vulnerable you would be doing online shopping and having prescriptions delivered etc, but it's likely safer to see Amber and the kids than it is to go to the shops. So why is he fine with going to the shops but not seeing his kids.
You can still go to the shop and keep safe. Masks, social distancing etc. Sometimes it’s easier to just pop to the shops rather than doing the whole online thing. With how Ste was with his kids on the show, I doubt he wouldn’t just not see them because he didn’t want to. He seemed like such a loving and caring father! But obviously we don’t know for sure what’s going on
 
From what we’ve seen of Ste, I can’t imagine it’s been easy for him not to see the kids - of course he wants to see Brooklyn on his birthday, maybe he was just going to see him at the door though? Bit dramatic to put it all over Facebook tbh
Like she said though, he has a mother he could go and stay with who isn’t vulnerable. Then he could see the boys. People make time for what they want to. If he can come round and risk it on Brooklyns birthday but then not on other days then yeah that is picking and choosing. Let’s say Amber herself was vulnerable or lived with someone vulnerable, I doubt she’d launch the kids out to some one else and say ooops can’t see you. He’s a parent so he needs to come up with a solution or move somewhere so he can.
 
The way I see it is, if ste hasn’t seen his kid’s in 7 weeks because his dad is vulnerable then fair enough, but he can’t then come say he’s going to see them on who evers birthday because that is picking and choosing. The virus hasn’t buggered off for the day so ste can see the kids and if it was the case of him just standing at the door or looking through the window like someone else mentioned then why hasn’t he been able to do that in the past few weeks if it’s ok for him to do it on the birthday.

As for the ‘smashing someone’s head in’ thats disgusting, he needs to stop holding on to the past and move on now with his life. He’s not a bad looking bloke and he seems to have some sort of anger issues but he can easily work on that.
 
Anyone else find it a bit odd how Reeann openly says Isabella is her number 1? How's that gonna make the others feel when they grow up and see that!?
Very strange! I get that you’re always gonna have a special bond with your first born, but it reeks of favouritism in my eyes.. maybe it was the way she worded it, I dunno? If you feel that way, why continue to have 2 more children? Contraception is mostly free 🤦🏼‍♀️
 
Anyone else find it a bit odd how Reeann openly says Isabella is her number 1? How's that gonna make the others feel when they grow up and see that!?
I agree, very odd. You learn to share that love with other children, I could be being dramatic here but it’ makes me wonder what she says to the kids, if she makes it clear to them that Isabella is her favourite seen as she can make it clear over social media?
My first child will always have a more special memory because he was my first ever child but I love all my children equally, none more than the others.
 
I can't believe that Amber's mum posted on social media but I do agree with her. As a parent, seeing my children would be my top priority. You do whatever it takes. Risking seeing them when he feels like it says to me that all he was doing was making an excuse. The danger is still there on Brooklyn's birthday! Aside from that, those poor kids not seeing their dad for 7 weeks, I can't imagine doing that to my kids for anything. From what we've seen of Ste I imagine it's probably more of a control/kick off against Amber than him genuinely not wanting to see his kids. Especially if he thinks she's speaking to someone new.
 
I can't believe that Amber's mum posted on social media but I do agree with her. As a parent, seeing my children would be my top priority. You do whatever it takes. Risking seeing them when he feels like it says to me that all he was doing was making an excuse. The danger is still there on Brooklyn's birthday! Aside from that, those poor kids not seeing their dad for 7 weeks, I can't imagine doing that to my kids for anything. From what we've seen of Ste I imagine it's probably more of a control/kick off against Amber than him genuinely not wanting to see his kids. Especially if he thinks she's speaking to someone new.
Amber commented saying he facetimes them every day and asked to spend the whole lockdown with them and she said no. He only said they weren’t allowed round to his dads house but still went to see them at Ambers. Amber said she put a stop to this because she didn’t want to lead him on so he can only really take them for walks and stuff
 
I don’t get Amber and Ste. They don’t want each other but they also don’t want the other to move on. they both kick off when the other speaks to another human.

They both need to move on and stop this back and fourth “I love you, I hate you, I love you” it’s not good for the kids or for either of them.
 
I can't believe that Amber's mum posted on social media but I do agree with her. As a parent, seeing my children would be my top priority. You do whatever it takes. Risking seeing them when he feels like it says to me that all he was doing was making an excuse. The danger is still there on Brooklyn's birthday! Aside from that, those poor kids not seeing their dad for 7 weeks, I can't imagine doing that to my kids for anything. From what we've seen of Ste I imagine it's probably more of a control/kick off against Amber than him genuinely not wanting to see his kids. Especially if he thinks she's speaking to someone new.
Honestly feel quite sorry for Amber in this situation. I can’t imagine it’s been easy for her at all, having no break from the kids for 7 weeks straight, because Ste has decided he can’t see the kids. They’re entitled to a bubble, so it looks to me like Ste is making excuses! On the show he comes across as a great dad, but I do think he’s quite abusive to amber as well. She’s just as bad sometimes as we have all seen, but I feel for her this time - 2 kids, schools closed and not getting a little break whilst they go to their dads must be really hard during lockdown.
 
I totally agree with this. Breast feeding is so rewarding, I breast fed for 7 months. It was harder for me to stop than my baby because I was so addicted to the closeness that we shared. The first time they went to sleep without it I cried so much haha.

I think once a child starts to walk breast feeding should be limited and eventually stopped because it just becomes a comfort to them and they don’t actually need it anymore.

Don’t come at me breast feeding police ha we all have our own opinions and what is right for me isn’t right for everyone of course.

Could be an unpopular opinion but, I sort of got Charlie's point with the breastfeeding. There's was an episode when Charlie had told Theo off, and Theo ran straight to Shannon under the guise of wanting a feed. He also had expressed that Theo uses the boob as an excuse to avoid things, like tidying, bed time and other things.

He also pointed out the feeding seemed to be more for her comfort, than Theo. So I don't think its fair to say she wasn't supported, she was up to a certain extent. I think they also knew how over whelmed Shannon got, and the thought of her attempting to breast feed two, would be a melt down waiting to happen.

Maybe I just have a tainted view though, cause a family member breast feed a relative until he was FIVE, and used the same exact responses Shannon did. The relative use to wrangle that poor kid onto her breast, claiming he still wants comfort, and never wants to stop. His reaction said completely different.
 
Amber commented saying he facetimes them every day and asked to spend the whole lockdown with them and she said no. He only said they weren’t allowed round to his dads house but still went to see them at Ambers. Amber said she put a stop to this because she didn’t want to lead him on so he can only really take them for walks and stuff
Face time is no substitute for actual parenting though. When you physically can see your kids, just face timing them is pathetic in my opinion. I don't doubt that Amber is making things 'harder' for him but in all honesty, I don't blame her for not wanting him there. We've all seen how things end up when he spends a lot of time in her house. I wouldn't want that either and I do agree with her that it prevents them moving on. If I felt like the only way I could safely see my kids was to take them outside then you'd bet that's what I'd be doing. Or as Amber's mum said, take them to his mums for a bit even? Even better, maybe get himself a job and his own place so that he had somewhere to take the kids 🤷‍♀️. I can not accept that the bar is this low for men to see their children. As a mother I'd be shamed if I didn't see my kids for 7 weeks, and rightly so!
 
Face time is no substitute for actual parenting though. When you physically can see your kids, just face timing them is pathetic in my opinion. I don't doubt that Amber is making things 'harder' for him but in all honesty, I don't blame her for not wanting him there. We've all seen how things end up when he spends a lot of time in her house. I wouldn't want that either and I do agree with her that it prevents them moving on. If I felt like the only way I could safely see my kids was to take them outside then you'd bet that's what I'd be doing. Or as Amber's mum said, take them to his mums for a bit even? Even better, maybe get himself a job and his own place so that he had somewhere to take the kids 🤷‍♀️. I can not accept that the bar is this low for men to see their children. As a mother I'd be shamed if I didn't see my kids for 7 weeks, and rightly so!
Exactly, I think also it’s blatantly obvious amber suffers with mental health issues so being locked inside not being able to have a break like she usual would on a weekend probably isn’t helping the situation. 7 weeks not seeing your children is disgraceful, fair enough if he had a job working away that’s different but there are ways he could see those kids whether it’s popping round socially distancing and standing at the door, looking through a window (that would be tough yes but still) he could take them for a walk I suppose and wear a mask but in my eyes he’s choosing not to.
 
I can't believe that Amber's mum posted on social media but I do agree with her. As a parent, seeing my children would be my top priority. You do whatever it takes. Risking seeing them when he feels like it says to me that all he was doing was making an excuse. The danger is still there on Brooklyn's birthday! Aside from that, those poor kids not seeing their dad for 7 weeks, I can't imagine doing that to my kids for anything. From what we've seen of Ste I imagine it's probably more of a control/kick off against Amber than him genuinely not wanting to see his kids. Especially if he thinks she's speaking to someone new.
From what I made of ambers post, she had a runny nose and the kids are in school so perhaps that’s why he sees it more of a high risk because she said he was taking them back to his before so perhaps that was before they were in school again? I’ve always thought Ste dotes on the kids so I doubt he would enjoy going without seeing them especially as he is constantly FaceTiming to keep in contact. If his dad is vulnerable he may have no choice but to be a carer for the dad so it’s abit selfish for people to say he should leave the dad for his children’s sake, especially if amber is getting a break by putting them in school and she could also form a support bubble with another household I.e: her mum, who could help her instead of bashing ste. Out of most of the dads he has always been consistent in taking or wanting to take his kids (a point amber cannot deny) so I think for him to not see his kids in weeks it’s not without reason.
 
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