Teen Mom USA (The Next Chapter and Family Reunion) #5

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Can’t believe anyone would watch that and NOT blame Amber.

Do we have any American’s on this thread? Just wondering, is using ‘re***d’ as an insult extremely offensive in the USA? Is it used like a general intelligence insult, something like ‘dumbass’, or is it considered discriminatory to people with learning difficulties?

Here in the UK it’s an historic word that was used by medical professionals for people with unspecified ‘mental deficiencies’ and is now a highly offensive insult and derogatory. It’s closer in nature to using a racial or homophobic slur, and could even be considered illegal (hate crimes) in the context of some circumstances. It’s the type of word that if you used in your workplace here, even as a joke…you could be sacked etc.

Just wondering if it being said by an American is as ‘offensive’ in their culture. If so, regardless of whether Amber was reprimanded or not, it’s surprising that mtv aired it.

But then…they have just aired a parent calling a child ‘a dick’ and making her child cry, although it’s not the worst insult, broadcasting how that’s affecting Leah is very insensitive.

As Leah is now at the point where she is due to start driving, that’s a big part of her independence achieved…the time for her ever ‘needing’ Amber is going to drop to an absolute zero. Assuming Leah has some money from her appearance on the show, asking Gary to allow her to have a car as soon as she’s legally able, if she’s as sensible as she seems, would be very reasonable to let her spend her money on that.
 
And now Amber is engaged

Her and her bf Gary met in September last year
 

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I saw the clip yesterday morning and it replayed in my head all day. I saw nothing happen that warranted a parent call their child a dick. Leah literally said, “as long as he makes you happy.” What in the name of the wee man was so bad about that. Did she want her to say he was gorgeous or something? As I would have found a comment like that worrying! It did not sound sarcastic and even if it did, this poor girl has witnessed how many men come in and out of her “mothers” life. She hasn’t met him, she doesn’t know him so her comment was perfectly acceptable and I also think very mature.
I remember times when Amber is sitting on that couch on the reunion show and looking at non OG members like they are tit on her shoe. I’m sure at times there’s even been a comment to other franchise members of - “if it wasn’t for me/us there would be no show”. Get a grip you narcissistic train wreck. Surely to feck if she was to get pregnant Social Work would have to keep a close eye?
Oh and I thought in that clip that she was either high, or off her meds!
 
Jennytea said:
Rachel’s storyline was by far the most chaotic 😭 I couldn’t believe her family dynamic and all their behaviour 😬
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Im still on season 3 but lots of drama with Kayla and Luke’s family. His mum and sister seem to fly into a rage so quickly. It’s quite shocking to watch.
 
That restaurant scene is so frustrating, even Leah told her to have self control after calling her a dick , you can see how well brought she has been by Gary and Kristina

Does Amber still see James much? Last I remember was the Court case where he said she used to cancel visits and not have him overnight, don't know how anyone could treat her kids the way she does
 
Beth1980 said:
Hasn't Leah previously said when Amber has a fella she isn't round as much, well words to that effect? Can't believe Amber was late, didn't seem to apologise for it, called her daughter a dick and had a go at Gary for saying sorry to Leah did she not see Emilee was there too poor mite.
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I don’t know how Kristina stays so calm. I know she is being mature and likely doesn’t want to escalate things but omg.. Imagine having to put up with Amber’s bullshit.
 
Miss.Chanandler.Bong said:
I read one of Kristina’s parents died from an overdose so that’s why she’s keen for Amber and Leah to have a relationship and stays quiet sometimes
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Oh no how sad 🙁. That’s probably a part of why her and Leah have such a strong bond too and can most likely relate on a lot of things. I just can’t imagine what she must be thinking sat listening to Amber speak to her family that way.
 
Noseyoldcow said:
Gif just watched the clip - I’ve always thought Amber should be on her knees thanking Gary and Kristina for raising her daughter. She is so vile and self absorbed
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It's kinda of frightening she Amber, doesn't see what she is doing. Why would anyone want to be around someone that is rude and talking names and also pretty damn arrogant? Worse that's your mother! I do wonder ifs it's a but of jealous why Amber has to fight with Gary but yet she always think she is right and it's poor old me. Narcissistic I guess.
 
Narcissism gets used far too much these days but Amber is one of the clearest definitions I’ve ever seen. Unless there was some serious editing there which I don’t think there was any which implicated her wrongly, it’s clean cut. All she cares about is herself and REFUSES to believe she’s done anything wrong when everyone can see otherwise. Imagine any of the fiery cast members having the same interaction with their families, Ashley, Bri, etc and someone acting like that, they’d have had their arse handed to them. Gary is still very reactive to her but nowhere near what he used to be and I think that must wind Amber up as well. I wonder if she actually addresses this not that it will make a difference but Leah’s whole demeanour towards Amber shows she’s uncomfortable in her presence. I felt so bad for her she’s got to have been humiliated knowing her friends and the rest of the family might see this. How do you keep giving someone chance after chance?
This scene is exactly why the producers keep her on the show and it’s wrong. Would Leah have a relationship with/entertain Amber if they weren’t on the show? Maybe and maybe it would be better if Amber wasn’t trying to make Gary look bad for the cameras all the time and worrying about “poor me”. Or maybe she would just be cut off completely. I would hope that Gary wasn’t encouraging the relationship just so they could stay on the show, however. I don’t think he would as he clearly cares about his child’s feelings
 
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Narcissism gets used far too much these days but Amber is one of the clearest definitions I’ve ever seen. Unless there was some serious editing there which I don’t think there was any which implicated her wrongly, it’s clean cut. All she cares about is herself and REFUSES to believe she’s done anything wrong when everyone can see otherwise. Imagine any of the fiery cast members having the same interaction with their families, Ashley, Bri, etc and someone acting like that, they’d have had their arse handed to them. Gary is still very reactive to her but nowhere near what he used to be and I think that must wind Amber up as well. I wonder if she actually addresses this not that it will make a difference but Leah’s whole demeanour towards Amber shows she’s uncomfortable in her presence. I felt so bad for her she’s got to have been humiliated knowing her friends and the rest of the family might see this. How do you keep giving someone chance after chance?
This scene is exactly why the producers keep her on the show and it’s wrong. Would Leah have a relationship with/entertain Amber if they weren’t on the show? Maybe and maybe it would be better if Amber wasn’t trying to make Gary look bad for the cameras all the time and worrying about “poor me”. Or maybe she would just be cut off completely. I would hope that Gary wasn’t encouraging the relationship just so they could stay on the show, however. I don’t think he would as he clearly cares about his child’s feelings
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Amber has spoken on screen about being diagnosed as both bipolar AND with borderline personality disorder.

It's not editing, that's her literal diagnosis.

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'Teen Mom's' Amber Portwood: 'Borderline Personality Disorder Made Me Gain Weight’

"When I got the diagnosis, I wanted to keep it a secret."
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SIXTYNINEDUDES! said:
Amber has spoken on screen about being diagnosed as both bipolar AND with borderline personality disorder.

It's not editing, that's her literal diagnosis.

www.womenshealthmag.com

'Teen Mom's' Amber Portwood: 'Borderline Personality Disorder Made Me Gain Weight’

"When I got the diagnosis, I wanted to keep it a secret."
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Tbh didn’t realise the 2 went hand in hand, I know they can’t literally edit her to be that way if she isn’t but I with ambers segments I dont think they can edit her to look worse. I understood she had had the diagnosis it’s difficult to watch that unfold in real time especially when it’s hurts Leah. My daughter has adhd and I always say there’s a “reason” she acts the way she does but it’s not an excuse.
 
I reckon amber doesn’t care. She’s got that attitude where she can say & do as she wants & Gary & kristina can’t say nothing to her as id guess she’d throw in their faces if it wasn’t for me doing 16 & pregnant & teen mom then yous wouldn’t even be in the financial position that you’re in. Like she thinks they owe her something. Man those two are SAINTS putting up with amber for as long as they have.
 
I’d say that description of BPD of a parent who act more like a sibling is spot on when you look at the dinner party footage. Leah says something minor that annoys Amber and she reacts like a teenager with insults rather than taking it maturely, ignoring it or calming reprimanding, it then falls on Gary to intervene and act as a parent to Amber to try to stop her escalating an argument with Leah.

If Leah lived with Amber, it would this situation on repeat, with Amber constantly reacting to minor things with immaturity and unable to set boundaries for adult behaving and child behaviour. Her quick reactions to minor annoyances would leave Leah constantly unsure what response still will trigger from every word and action, giving her a feeling of constant instability.

They would be like two waring siblings, but as Amber would have the power in the relationship her ability to be on the nastiest side of it will come easier to her. By not living with her Leah is the one who has the power as she can now just refuse contact…which is something that someone with BDP will find infuriating as they thrive on having control.
 
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