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ButtonDownTheHutches said:
I’ve nicked this from Reddit, but here’s a list of loose ends that potentially need typing up in the final three episodes (though I’m sure some will he left dangling):


  1. Marcia and her place in the company and the will based on her many “intimate” conversations.
  2. Kendall and the waiter, which his siblings and Marcia know about.
  3. Shiv’s baby which could have ramifications for her, Tom, and others.
  4. Sandy, Stewy, Logan’s brother, Adrien Brody, and the board who have been eerily silent for several episodes but we know that they are sophisticated operators entirely capable of cutting their own deals.
  5. Pierce…and whatever is going to happen there.
  6. The election, Connor, and Mencken…both the outcome and ATNs relationship with him.
  7. Tom’s current level of destabilization which could cause him to (a) do something erratic at ATN to influence the election, (b) rat out Shiv to her brothers, (c) everything in between.
  8. The India numbers (or the possibility it’s all a trap Mattson and Ebba are laying)
  9. The Living+ numbers (which aren’t just numbers but numbers)
  10. Roman’s deteriorating psychological state and what it could cause him to do (there are at least two characters who could do harm to themselves)
  11. Logan’s actual will (presumably the kids inherit and could control the board but who knows)
  12. The actions of the old guard now that they know the kids are trying to sink the deal (Frank, Gerri, Karl who is a legend in cable).

That’s A LOT of big stuff to resolve! 😱
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A great list! That is a LOT.

I'm thinking we'll see: 3, 6, 7 and 10. I'm sure there will be more on 8 and 12 too.

One of the best/worst things about Succession is that they don't over explain: you get what you see. I have a feeling we'll be left with a million questions but I trust that we will still get a phenomenal ending (that none of us can predict!)
 
SHIV’S hair and clothes looking mighty fine these last 2 eps - courting Tom and Lukas’s attentions/ business attentions maybe - feeling empowered.

The argument was breathtaking.

I thought the way Tom rubbed SHIV’S back, and the lingering shot, when they were first getting it back on suggested he was noticing something. Which is why perhaps the mega insult.

Or maybe it was just to make the audience wonder if he’d notice anything.
 
chocolatepeaches said:
No, Shiv isn't 20 weeks pregnant. Let me help you get up to speed (and everyone else who seems to be confused).

Season 4 is supposed to be spread out in 10 days (that's what Jesse Armstrong, the writer behind the show confirmed). Each episode of Season 4 = 1 day.

She's less than 20 weeks. The doctor said she will let her know or schedule her before her 20 week scan. This is why Shiv is also trying to blend in with the male dominated world of Succession with a drink here and there. No, she didn't snort the cocaine with Mattson either. She's still very early in her first trimester. For risks of drinking alcohol in the first trimester, please read here - https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog...-in-pregnancy-and-birth-problems-201309106667

^ I don't condone drinking during pregnancy at all. Also, the fact that Tom didn't realize Shiv is pregnant while shagging her is a common TV trope. Some men/women, yes, can tell if their wife/partner is pregnant or not but some people are completely oblivious.

Also, Sarah Snook being visibly pregnant has nothing to do with the show, her pregnancy doesn't follow the same timeline as her character's pregnancy.

Jesse Armstrong said Episode 8 will be shocking which is election night.



I have a strong feeling Jimenez will win and there will be riots.
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I also like the fact that Willa and Connor are the only stable couple in this show and he listens and defends her (and vice versa) at all costs. Connor has suddenly grown a backbone since he learnt Logan passed away. So much respect for him now!

Also, THIS, is a great article with the character Nate from the show. Must read to understand the latest episode better. https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/succession-election-nate-ashley-zukerman-kendall-1235604565/
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Jimenez is the democrat though- why would there be riots? Surely there would only be riots of Mencken wins?
 
Fruitjack said:
I had the filthiest dream about Kendall and it was every bit as good as you'd expect.
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I had one as well a few weeks back- was lush.
he was even hotter a few years back ❤️

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ls240898 said:
It’s not EXACTLY one day for each episode but it’s very very close.
season 4 starts 6 months after S3.

Day/episode 1: kids in LA trying to do Pierce, Logan in NY for his birthday, 48 hours before GoJo deal - 1 full day
Day 2: Logan at ATN, siblings in Albany, GoJo sale tomorrow, Connor’s rehearsal in the evening, GoJo deal delayed Logan arranges to see Mattson the next day - 1 full day
Day 3: I guess we know… connor’s wedding. One full day
Day 4: aftermath of E3, set completely in Logan’s home - one full day
Day 5: kids start at Waystar, summoned to Norway by Mattson, fly home next day - basically two days
Day 7: not the same day as E5 at all - kids go to LA the day before Living+ - 2 full days
Day 9: not the same day as E6, but one full day too.

so we’re up to 9 days and we are only on Episode 7 - seems likely it’s a two week period to me
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I still don't think it's 2 weeks but opinions may differ.

Chatty9 said:
Thank you so much for typing all of this out!!! You are very good to do that. Ok i misheard the doctor, I thought she said she was 20 weeks. Also when she slipped and fell I thought she might lose the baby or threatened miscarriage but I don't think it mentioned it since?
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Sarah Snook slipping on the episode was not deliberate. Jesse Armstrong and the rest of the cast only knew she was pregnant after that scene apparently according to the official podcast of Succession.

PineappleQueen19 said:
There is merit in the Shiv using a surrogate theory. It would be de rigueur in their circles plus it fits with Shiv’s character that she would find pregnancy and childbirth an inconvenience and icky. They outsource everything else. And the doctor referring to ‘your scan’ fits with how surrogacy works for the uber wealthy (your baby therefore your scan etc - the surrogate is erased as much as possible).
Given the tight timelines of the season we might not find out 😱
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I don't think Shiv is using a surrogate. This theory is moot because the doctor kept asking Shiv how she was feeling during that call, not how the surrogate was feeling. Shiv will wa
ButtonDownTheHutches said:
I’ve nicked this from Reddit, but here’s a list of loose ends that potentially need tying up in the final three episodes (though I’m sure some will be left dangling):


  1. Marcia and her place in the company and the will based on her many “intimate” conversations.
  2. Kendall and the waiter, which his siblings and Marcia know about.
  3. Shiv’s baby which could have ramifications for her, Tom, and others.
  4. Sandy, Stewy, Logan’s brother, Adrien Brody, and the board who have been eerily silent for several episodes but we know that they are sophisticated operators entirely capable of cutting their own deals.
  5. Pierce…and whatever is going to happen there.
  6. The election, Connor, and Mencken…both the outcome and ATNs relationship with him.
  7. Tom’s current level of destabilization which could cause him to (a) do something erratic at ATN to influence the election, (b) rat out Shiv to her brothers, (c) everything in between.
  8. The India numbers (or the possibility it’s all a trap Mattson and Ebba are laying)
  9. The Living+ numbers (which aren’t just numbers but numbers)
  10. Roman’s deteriorating psychological state and what it could cause him to do (there are at least two characters who could do harm to themselves)
  11. Logan’s actual will (presumably the kids inherit and could control the board but who knows)
  12. The actions of the old guard now that they know the kids are trying to sink the deal (Frank, Gerri, Karl who is a legend in cable).

That’s A LOT of big stuff to resolve! 😱

Oh, and we haven’t even had the funeral yet!
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I doubt the writers will cover all of this. The writers always keep us guessing and according to the cast of Succession, they film a lot of scenes that get cut in the editing room. The episode airing on HBO is always a revelation to the cast itself. Remember, the writers never explained Logan's scars in the previous season or about Rose either. Proof about scenes being cut can be found here -
Silverback said:
Jimenez is the democrat though- why would there be riots? Surely there would only be riots of Mencken wins?
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If you saw the election numbers in the trailer for Episode 8, it was the same or similar polling numbers of Biden vs Trump. There were riots when Trump didn't win.

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Hubrisand said:
They’d be probably be going for a Jan 5th style thing
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You mean Jan 6th.
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Silverback said:
I had one as well a few weeks back- was lush.
he was even hotter a few years back ❤

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I feel like that how's Jeremy Strong looked like in Season 1 but the show was filmed over the course of 6 years and age + his method acting has significantly aged him. He actually dyes his hair black for the show. Else, he's a silver fox in real life.
 
Anyone else notice Lukas Mattson and Ebba looking decidedly touchy-feely in the background, just before Roman has a go at Connor about not agreeing to drop out of the election? (When Mattson is lounging on the windowsill, right before the comedy pointing to himself when Connor says ‘there’s one person in this room who doesn’t think I’m a joke’)

It’s in soft focus but Mattson and Ebba are smiling, holding each other’s hands and half embracing - which is odd considering Mattson was a dick to Ebba in front of everyone and she stormed off for a ciggy. She seemed to spill about the India subscription figures quite readily …
 
Pocahontas said:
Anyone else notice Lukas Mattson and Ebba looking decidedly touchy-feely in the background, just before Roman has a go at Connor about not agreeing to drop out of the election? (When Mattson is lounging on the windowsill, right before the comedy pointing to himself when Connor says ‘there’s one person in this room who doesn’t think I’m a joke’)

It’s in soft focus but Mattson and Ebba are smiling, holding each other’s hands and half embracing - which is odd considering Mattson was a dick to Ebba in front of everyone and she stormed off for a ciggy. She seemed to spill about the India subscription figures quite readily …
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There's an interview with the actor playing Mattson.

In the end he says, he gets what he deserves. Make of that what you will.


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Pocahontas said:
Anyone else notice Lukas Mattson and Ebba looking decidedly touchy-feely in the background, just before Roman has a go at Connor about not agreeing to drop out of the election? (When Mattson is lounging on the windowsill, right before the comedy pointing to himself when Connor says ‘there’s one person in this room who doesn’t think I’m a joke’)

It’s in soft focus but Mattson and Ebba are smiling, holding each other’s hands and half embracing - which is odd considering Mattson was a dick to Ebba in front of everyone and she stormed off for a ciggy. She seemed to spill about the India subscription figures quite readily …
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Yeah that's what I've been thinking too. Why would she spill the India subs thing like that? I can't see how doing that would be in her best interests. These people are all about self-preservation.
 
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