Strictly Come Dancing 2023 #3

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I just don't view either Luba or Neil as main pros when tallying up who is due a contender and who isn't. They've both been benched a lot and aren't new up and coming talent waiting for their promotion like Lauren. They're really glorified troupe members who the show use as a safe pair of hands to fill in here and there. But the fact that they've been there so long and barely featured makes me think the show isn't invested.
It was interesting that she was presenting a lot with Neil on the pro tour this time and was very much front and lead in a lot of dances . Neil was struggling to keep up with the other boys, dancewise, but he’s a confident presenter. Karen was excellent though,
 
I do wonder if any pro dancer truly joins the show not wanting a celeb partner? There’s one thing accepting/being resigned to not having one, and you can still have a good experience, but I feel like the whole premise is having a celeb and competing with them.
 
I do wonder if any pro dancer truly joins the show not wanting a celeb partner? There’s one thing accepting/being resigned to not having one, and you can still have a good experience, but I feel like the whole premise is having a celeb and competing with them.

Yeah, I've never understood that argument. Having a partner means increasing your profile, which means a better chance of touring, more instagram followers, more opportunities, and a much better income

Of course there are lots of people who would rather not have a job like that in the spotlight, but then they would surely choose to be in a more behind the scenes role? And there's also the fact that both Luba and Neil were clearly genuinely over the moon the few occasions when they were given partners
 
I think the fact that there were quite a few tall men last year and Luba didn't get a partner doesn't bode well for her unfortunately. This year will be her 6th year on the show and she's only had two partners, it's a similar thing with Neil except he's been on the show for longer. She's a great dancer so I don't know why she doesn't get a partner.
She’s a great dancer, but that doesn’t necessarily mean she’s a great teacher. Of course we can’t know for sure because we have hardly seen her, but maybe the producers don’t feel like she’s the right fit to teach a celeb? Especially when all the other female pros are so established now, can’t see any of the current lot being benched for her.
 
Nigel Harman? Dirty Den's son on Eastenders, married his adopted sister Sharon, was stabbed to death on New Year's Eve (I don't know why I can remember Eastenders storylines from about 20 years ago, that was probably the last time I watched it 😆) He was also a baddie on Downton Abbey. He looks like a villain, but I'm sure he's very nice in real life 😁


He is lovely in real life, is not keen on the adulation though. He can dance, he was in Guys and Dolls musical in London straight after his stint on EE and later in Shrek as Lord Farquaad . Would love to think he could be in Strictly but he has never been a fan of reality tv and vowed back in the day that it was not his thing. He is still not celebrity mad, prefers to go under the radar and concentrate on his acting/directing.

If he has relented then a partner like Katya would be the dream team, her innovation, his charisma, likeability and overall good attractive guy. Bring it on, but it would be a suprise if he succumbs.
 
He is lovely in real life, is not keen on the adulation though. He can dance, he was in Guys and Dolls musical in London straight after his stint on EE and later in Shrek as Lord Farquaad . Would love to think he could be in Strictly but he has never been a fan of reality tv and vowed back in the day that it was not his thing. He is still not celebrity mad, prefers to go under the radar and concentrate on his acting/directing.

If he has relented then a partner like Katya would be the dream team, her innovation, his charisma, likeability and overall good attractive guy. Bring it on, but it would be a suprise if he succumbs.
Might be like Danny Mack, maybe a bit too much? But then he was so good and was completely robbed.
 
He is lovely in real life, is not keen on the adulation though. He can dance, he was in Guys and Dolls musical in London straight after his stint on EE and later in Shrek as Lord Farquaad . Would love to think he could be in Strictly but he has never been a fan of reality tv and vowed back in the day that it was not his thing. He is still not celebrity mad, prefers to go under the radar and concentrate on his acting/directing.

If he has relented then a partner like Katya would be the dream team, her innovation, his charisma, likeability and overall good attractive guy. Bring it on, but it would be a suprise if he succumbs.
I would love to see him with Katya, of all the pros I would say she’s had it roughest in terms of partners. Ed, Seann, Mike, Nicola & Tony all had zero dance talent. Doubt they would win as ringers never do, but I just want to see what she can do choreo wise with someone who can actually dance. Joe was good, but still not ringer level.

Nadiya would definitely be my other preferred pro if he does sign up. Again, she’s had Lee, David & Matt who were all absolutely awful. Dan obviously got further than them but still wasn’t a great dancer, and she also had a year on the bench. A lot of people say they don’t think she has the personality for a ringer but I think seeing her with Dan changed that for me, he really brought her out of her shell.
 
I would love to see him with Katya, of all the pros I would say she’s had it roughest in terms of partners. Ed, Seann, Mike, Nicola & Tony all had zero dance talent. Doubt they would win as ringers never do, but I just want to see what she can do choreo wise with someone who can actually dance. Joe was good, but still not ringer level.

Nadiya would definitely be my other preferred pro if he does sign up. Again, she’s had Lee, David & Matt who were all absolutely awful. Dan obviously got further than them but still wasn’t a great dancer, and she also had a year on the bench. A lot of people say they don’t think she has the personality for a ringer but I think seeing her with Dan changed that for me, he really brought her out of her shell.
I find Nadiya and Amy ( who obviously won’t take part this year) choreo very dull compared to Katya, Karen and Dianne. It might be because both of them were competitive dancers going straight into dwts/strictly. I think the other girls having more show and especially Burn the Floor experience makes a massive difference to their creativity. Nadiya’s only highlight last series was Musicals Week and that was because Kai basically choreographed it, after being knocked out.
 
I find Nadiya and Amy ( who obviously won’t take part this year) choreo very dull compared to Katya, Karen and Dianne. It might be because both of them were competitive dancers going straight into dwts/strictly. I think the other girls having more show and especially Burn the Floor experience makes a massive difference to their creativity. Nadiya’s only highlight last series was Musicals Week and that was because Kai basically choreographed it, after being knocked out.
To be fair to Nadiya, it’s not like she had much to work with 🤣 Matt was awful and also very visibly nervous every time he danced, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge her on that. Same with Lee & David who were both awful. Her choreo with Davood was brilliant and I also thought it was really good with Dan, considering the level he was at. She’s never had a partner that she can go all out on choreo with, that’s why I would rather see her with a ringer type than the likes of Dianne, Amy etc.

Dianne’s choreo does nothing for me, she made Tyler who had a lot of potential into a boring contestant who become almost forgettable by the time he left. On paper if any of the female pros are due a really good partner it’s Katya & Nadiya, but there’s a lot of things the producers take into account like height etc that doesn’t always make that possible.
 
To be fair to Nadiya, it’s not like she had much to work with 🤣 Matt was awful and also very visibly nervous every time he danced, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge her on that. Same with Lee & David who were both awful. Her choreo with Davood was brilliant and I also thought it was really good with Dan, considering the level he was at. She’s never had a partner that she can go all out on choreo with, that’s why I would rather see her with a ringer type than the likes of Dianne, Amy etc.

Dianne’s choreo does nothing for me, she made Tyler who had a lot of potential into a boring contestant who become almost forgettable by the time he left. On paper if any of the female pros are due a really good partner it’s Katya & Nadiya, but there’s a lot of things the producers take into account like height etc that doesn’t always make that possible.
I actually loved Dianne’s work with Tyler, I know the Charleston wasn’t her’s but it was brilliant . I also thought he shouldn’t have gone out the week he did. Katya has won a glitterball, so I don’t think she’s going to get a true ringer again.
 
I actually loved Dianne’s work with Tyler, I know the Charleston wasn’t her’s but it was brilliant . I also thought he shouldn’t have gone out the week he did. Katya has won a glitterball, so I don’t think she’s going to get a true ringer again.
Maybe not, but I still think she deserves it based on the run she’s been on since 2018 lol. She won 6 years ago and since then she’s drawn the short end of the stick almost every time, I actually feel sorry for her. I think she’s always given the tit dancers because they know she’s the best pro at getting the most out of them, but that doesn’t mean she should get them every year the poor girl 🤣 It’s impossible to predict tbh, on paper there are pros that should really be getting contenders this year, and there’s also the obvious ones who should be getting duffers (gio, nancy, maybe dianne & graziano too).
 
If past pro winners Pasha could get Ashley Roberts, Artem Natalie Gumede and Aliona Jay McGuiness, I fail to see why Katya should be DQ'ed from getting anyone good again. Especially since we are missing out and the only other really strong female pro has just had her win last year.

Even Ola got Ashley Taylor Dawson, might have been busy filming Hollyoaks and had the new baby but still far more talented than any of Katya's post win celebs...
 
If past pro winners Pasha could get Ashley Roberts, Artem Natalie Gumede and Aliona Jay McGuiness, I fail to see why Katya should be DQ'ed from getting anyone good again. Especially since we are missing out and the only other really strong female pro has just had her win last year.

Even Ola got Ashley Taylor Dawson...
I agree. There are 3 current pros who have won - Jowita, Gio & Katya. Jowita should probably have a duffer this year, but Gio wasn’t given one after his win and she could do an Oti and win back to back with an unexpected contender like Bill was. Gio should be at the bottom of the list of male pros imo, the likes of Nikita & Kai should really be getting better partners than him this year. Katya will probably get lumped with an elderly politician again so I don’t have high hopes 🤣
 
I agree. There are 3 current pros who have won - Jowita, Gio & Katya. Jowita should probably have a duffer this year, but Gio wasn’t given one after his win and she could do an Oti and win back to back with an unexpected contender like Bill was. Gio should be at the bottom of the list of male pros imo, the likes of Nikita & Kai should really be getting better partners than him this year. Katya will probably get lumped with an elderly politician again so I don’t have high hopes 🤣

If there's any female pro who should get an elderly politician, it's Nancy, I don't think she's that good (better than a few others but still meh) yet lucked out with two really good male celebs in a row, in years where there weren't very many male contenders. I did feel a bit sorry for her losing out last year on the final, but it took Janette 8 series and Nadiya hasn't even had one yet.

I doubt we'll see Jowita with a contender this year which is fair but I'm hoping her non contender celeb is more a Chris Ramsey/Dan Walker type who can stay in for a bit and isn't outright hopeless. It would be a bit unfair if she got a no-hoper after winning her first when Gio got pushed for years to win and still didn't get a dud after his win. And totally agree re Gio - too many newer guys deserving of their chances for him to get a look in if there's any justice.

The last two weeks with Tony, Katya seemed noticeably frazzled. I think she's given everything she can with the dud celebs but we've seen those partnerships enough now and I think she'd be grateful for better celebs going forward.
 
To be fair to Nadiya, it’s not like she had much to work with 🤣 Matt was awful and also very visibly nervous every time he danced, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge her on that. Same with Lee & David who were both awful. Her choreo with Davood was brilliant and I also thought it was really good with Dan, considering the level he was at. She’s never had a partner that she can go all out on choreo with, that’s why I would rather see her with a ringer type than the likes of Dianne, Amy etc.

Dianne’s choreo does nothing for me, she made Tyler who had a lot of potential into a boring contestant who become almost forgettable by the time he left. On paper if any of the female pros are due a really good partner it’s Katya & Nadiya, but there’s a lot of things the producers take into account like height etc that doesn’t always make that possible.
I think for the pro’s with the less able celebs it’s a balancing act. They want a routine that shows what the celeb can do, but not one that is so complex they forget what they are doing half way through. Alesha was good enough to wing it and follow Matt when they both blanked, Matt Di Angelo got away with going off for a nice sit down but someone like Matt Goss isn’t going to get away with standing looking thunderstruck for half a dance while Nadiya tries to steer him back into the routine. I think sometimes the simple routines are all they think the celeb can comfortably manage.
 
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