Strictly Come Dancing 2023 #26

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Conspiratorial nonsense so please ignore if you don't think the producers meddle much.

I think they know so much from the many years of data, that they know who votes for who, and even how to pull their triggers (Craig and his scoring pushes the voting imo, to an extent - the others also). Anyway, since they are at 8 women winners vs 12 men, I think they are trying for an Ellie win - and they know what kind of celeb would take the win from her (male hetero hearthrob over 25). I'll guess the strategy: They'd have to dump the other two women (because of ratings, they don't want an all-female final) and get the two weaker male vote-getters in the final with her -- I'm guessing that's Layton and Bobby.

Thus, they may be setting up a Nigel ouster based on his "nerves" "mistakes" "attitude" or whatever. I think it's a bit cruel but they have form: I haven't got over them fiddling Gethin out of the way for Alesha, though I understand why. Ditto Ore/Danny. Probably every chance they get to put a better gender (or ethnic) balance in the winner list, they go into manipulation overdrive.

Well sorry to ramble but it's an obsession of mine...
 
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Elpis said:
Conspiratorial nonsense so please ignore if you don't think the producers meddle much.

I think they know so much from the many years of data, that they know who votes for who, and even how to pull their triggers (Craig and his scoring pushes the voting imo, to an extent - the others also). Anyway, since they are at 8 women winners vs 12 men, I think they are trying for an Ellie win - and they know what kind of celeb would take the win from her (male hetero hearthrob over 25). I'll guess the strategy: They'd have to dump the other two women (because of ratings, they don't want an all-female final) and get the two weaker male vote-getters in the final with her -- I'm guessing that's Layton and Bobby.

Thus, they may be setting up a Nigel ouster based on his "nerves" "mistakes" "attitude" or whatever. I think it's a bit cruel but they have form: I haven't got over them fiddling Gethin out of the way for Alesha, though I understand why. Ditto Ore/Danny. Probably every chance they get to put a better gender (or ethnic) balance in the winner list, they go into manipulation overdrive.

Well sorry to ramble but it's an obsession of mine...
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I think there's some truth in this, maybe they see Nigel as a threat. The bit I'll disagree with though is the gender balance in the final - if they want an Ellie win, I don't see any real reason to push Bobby in there over Angela Scanlon. I'd agree that they don't want an all-female final, but 2 women and 1 man probably will be fine for them and being up against Layton & Angela more or less guarantees Ellie the trophy. I don't really see where Bobby fits in, and he doesn't really have any dances worth repeating at the moment.

Sadly, I feel the writing might be on the wall for Nigel after this week.
 
You could be right. But I wonder if they've learned they need to split the vote for the men, because one man would get too many horny women voting for him (subliminally or intentionally - or just good old misogyny which women have too). I don't know if that makes sense? But the sociology person on Twitter said the voters prefer men. Oh something like that -- THEY know because they have so much data, but we just have to guess, alas.

Anyhoo on a light note - I tried to follow all the shag/marry/kill games and combined my answers:

Shag: Bobby, John*, Craig, Joanne, Jayde*, Nadiya, Nikita.
Marry: Kevin, Les, Anton, Tess, Widdy, Luba, Carlos.
Kill: Neil, Neil, Brendan, Shirley, Gregg, Dianne, Vito.

*on a heavy dose of ketamine please! Don't know the boybanders so I left them out.
 
Elpis said:
Conspiratorial nonsense so please ignore if you don't think the producers meddle much.

I think they know so much from the many years of data, that they know who votes for who, and even how to pull their triggers (Craig and his scoring pushes the voting imo, to an extent - the others also). Anyway, since they are at 8 women winners vs 12 men, I think they are trying for an Ellie win - and they know what kind of celeb would take the win from her (male hetero hearthrob over 25). I'll guess the strategy: They'd have to dump the other two women (because of ratings, they don't want an all-female final) and get the two weaker male vote-getters in the final with her -- I'm guessing that's Layton and Bobby.

Thus, they may be setting up a Nigel ouster based on his "nerves" "mistakes" "attitude" or whatever. I think it's a bit cruel but they have form: I haven't got over them fiddling Gethin out of the way for Alesha, though I understand why. Ditto Ore/Danny. Probably every chance they get to put a better gender (or ethnic) balance in the winner list, they go into manipulation overdrive.

Well sorry to ramble but it's an obsession of mine...
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I don’t really get this - it only makes sense if we think Nigel has been amazing and is being irrationally undermined by the cruel judges. When the reality is that he’s done two (?) good dances and keeps stuffing up. And STILL is in with a chance of winning!

I don’t think the show cares who wins really as long as people watch - they certainly wouldn’t be fixing it for Ellie as I’m sure they’re aware normally young women don’t win and they’re probably surprised she’s popular. If anything Angela S is more of a typical female winner but they’ve been hard on her.
 
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I think at the start of the series, producers have an idea of how they might like things to go - I reckon this year to me it looked like Bobby as the preferred winner, get Angela R to Blackpool, and make sure they have a same sex pair that does well (compared to last year). And then as the series goes on, these preferences might alter depending on the public vote

So clearly now has Bobby plateaued and his vote has dropped so there won't be much point banging that drum anymore beyond giving him a nice (emotional ?) CC

I think they would rather go into the final with a real possibility that at least two pairs have a chance of getting the glitterball (like last year with Hamza and Helen) rather than a clear favourite, just because it makes for more exciting viewing
 
Pontiac_Bandit said:
Layton seemed really chilled and happy, it was lovely to see him so relaxed rather than over the top and on edge! Nikita seemed quite subdued though, he was a lot quieter and more serious than normal (aside from the bit where he was lifting weights 😉) - when he was saying how hard they train it made me think that maybe he's lost some of the fun element in favour of fixating on getting a 40. I hope he's doing ok!

(I'm swerving all the shag marry kill stuff because I'm about to go to sleep and don't want any horrendous imagery in my head 🤣)
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I think they have been putting some very long hours in and add on driving to and from Blackpool and the additional work for that they must both be exhausted. I do fear that Nikita is fixating on that perfect score as he is clearly very competitive. James Jordan said that he thinks Layton is the best dancer who has ever been on Strictly (of course he is also being all pearl clutchy about the CC and insisting that Layton should not even be on the show 🙄). Imagine having the best dancer yet not having had the 40 which plenty of other couples have had by this stage in other years? Nikita is going to keep throwing all he can into each dance until he gets that perfect score he is craving. Last night he was talking about the American Smooth being a bit different and Layton was saying no tricks. I think Nikita will want to make it very technically difficult to demonstrate their skills. Whilst they are both amazing dancers and Nikita is a fantastic choreographer what makes them really unique is their connection. I think that’s what he needs to focus on.
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Woolmercardington said:
Strip show?! Jesus Christ! If only 😂

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I think they must be getting mixed up with what stripping is. The only way they could cover up more is by wearing gloves and balaclava.
 
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I think there is a degree of manipulation, which is all about headlines and ratings, rather than having a final look or not look a certain way. I think there was a (mistaken) belief that the general public would go gaga at Angela R being in the show and in particular the Blackpool bit, hence the blatant choice of slower dances en route. However she was neither a great dancer and didn't prove to be all that popular. I also suspect they thought a 'Bobby to win' story arc would push ratings through the roof, but had not banked him not actually being that great and behaving like a dick (arse out in rehearsals).

Ultimately you can only manipulate to a point and you can't control how someone comes across all the time. Viewers have eyes.
 
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I think the only time they cared whether a male or female celeb won was back in series 3. I think they began to get twitchy that a male would never win and so went just a tad overboard on the whole, look a Blokey bloke wardrobe bloke from Yorkshire who’s a SPORTSMAN and likes pints and all kinds of blokey bloke things and has never danced before because he’s a SPORTSMAN who prefers to be at the bar with a pint. It was … wearing.

Nikita needs to give up the search for the elusive 40 … when you think of some of the dances that have been given 40 (yes, Jason Donovan’s hair sniffing, strangling, Morris dancing Argentine Tango I am looking at you) and the fact that Kara didn’t get one perfect score at all … you realise just how irrelevant and dependant on the whim of the moment it is.
 
According to DS Leandro and Maria were in Manchester, which would mean AT for Ellie. Eek! I'm nervous about that.

LadyLav's totally objective review of GP Vita:

I'm very happy with it. Incidentally, I have the perfume and it wears well through the day. The top notes are citrus (bergamot) tempered with marine, and then softened with some floral notes that come through later. I really like it and have had compliments. Seems to be a universally positive response from everyone who's bought it so far.

The packaging is very classy, the bottle feels substantial in the hand and looks elegant, in that Italian understated way.
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I think GP Vita sounds like the name of a pessary for bacterial vaginosis rather than a luxury fragrance.

Anyway, SMK Italian edition:

Graz
Giofanny
Vito

Shag Vito (I flip-flopped between shag and marry and decided Graz would be fine with being a throuple)
Marry Graziano (he's a sweetheart and looks like he's be an adoring, patient husband)
Kill Giofannny (ship him off to Lady Lav, a fare worse than death)
 
Ffs, I honestly was not going to click on the Layton/Nikita fic, I really wasn't. I've been a fanfic connoisseur since I was 11, all the omegaverse and tentacles and sex pollen orgies in the world can't make me bat an eyelid, but I simply cannot be doing with RPF! Not anymore, I haven't read any since I was a teenager. The cringe factor is just too high. But then you pack of degenerates admit to reading it and I'm feeling compelled... 😂 😂 😂






 
LaBlonde said:
i think we should be mean though and do the ultimate battle of the newbies:

vito
nikita
carlos
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Marry Nikita
Shag Vito
Kill Carlos
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Ablemabel said:
Has there been any hint as to what Bobby might CC too? I was thinking about this yesterday whilst half awake. I first thought Robbie Williams Angel but the lyrics don't really work so wondered if it would something like This Womens Work. Not that I imagine Bobby would know that song at all. (Like they have much say!)

Still secretly hoping for Postcode Lottery 🤣
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If he doesn't do the postcode lottery we will all be disappointed. 'someone's knocking on the door, someone's ringing the bell'....* Dianne knocks on a prop door
Dianne: 'come on bobby you are late for rehearsals'
Bobby 'oh damn my alarm didn't go off'
*they start the dance 🤭
 
coconochanel said:
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If he doesn't do the postcode lottery we will all be disappointed. 'someone's knocking on the door, someone's ringing the bell'....* Dianne knocks on a prop door
Dianne: 'come on bobby you are late for rehearsals'
Bobby 'oh damn my alarm didn't go off'
*they start the dance 🤭
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Tbf they had an ample chance with that gag for Wake Me Up Before You Go Go.
 
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