Strictly Come Dancing 2023 #26

[MeghanSnarkle]

Yes he did. He said 'there's me as a child then I come out and Dianne.. replicates a woman, playing my mother probably'. Makes me wonder if they will open with say, pics or vid of Baby Bobby (and Jade?) and then Bobby comes out. Yikes.

I think it will be a beautiful dance from Bobby for sure a well deserved 40 .

On a personal level i just hope Dianne draws the line at breastfeeding him.

 

[soccergirl]

I don't feel there is any need whatsoever to use such an emotive topic for Bobby's CC. Annabel I understand as her loss was so recent.

But a boy dancing to such a moving song when his mother died young from cervical cancer is not Saturday night light entertainment. He could easily have done a CC based on his fame-hungry dad.

Call me cynical but it screams sympathy vote.

I don't blame Bobby here. He hasn't mentioned his mum yet, and maybe won't in the VT - it might be all about Jeff. But I feel that if the show has pushed this on him, it's really manipulative. He is very young, daft as a brush, and who knows if he's ready to process this on live TV to an audience of millions, with a partner whose father is going through cancer treatment?

It's also going to be, like Annabel's, a dance that is impossible to critique.

 

[Ablemabel]

I just object to the emotional manipulation you can see from Mars.

I mean, I know Strictly can never be accused of any degree of subtlety but the cattle prodding and hammer to the head of look, look, how emotional this is … isn’t this sad … look Dianne is sad … look Bobby is holding back a manly tear … it’s so emotional … Motsi sobbed and Shirley is on 5 Kleenex … Anton can’t form words (well, okay, no change there)… look at Bobby’s family in the audience … Tess is talking to dolphins … you will cry.

And I say sturdily … no, I won’t.

I'm not even sure Bobby will. His 'my mother probably' comment on ITT together with the ' I don't know the dance yet to tell you the story completelY' was curious indeed (for him, I mean it sounds llike it's him as a child without a mother and then his older self meets his mother (cue tears) but what do I know)

Jeff will be in floods.

 

[louseylou]

I know Amy has been to a couple of the shows but I hope she's not at this one.

 

[nicalibres]

I hope this cc hasn’t been forced on Bobby by the producers but we all know the score. Emotional manipulation is Strictly’s MO. Hopefully he’s being given the appropriate support, along with Dianne given her circumstances.

He didn’t grow up with Jade but she’s still his mum. I imagine it must be hard for him knowing that the worst of her was played out in the public eye and she’s remembered by most as either a thick as tit joke figure or a hideous racist. No doubt she was hugely flawed but she was exploited by the likes of Max Clifford worked until she died in order to leave something for her sons so maybe that’s where the song ties in? Who knows. Having to reconcile that she did bad things so publicly while also being a loving mum must be difficult and I think saying “he didn’t even know her” is quite dismissive and actually a bit cruel, imo. Losing a parent so young would have an impact on anyone so I don’t think it’s any worse than anyone else who’s dedicated a dance to a dead loved one.

Having said all that, I think cc should be scrapped and I’ll probably fast forward the vt and clauditorium like I do with almost everyone cos it’s all so contrived anyway.

 

[lizzolyn]

I know Amy has been to a couple of the shows but I hope she's not at this one.

Just out of interest did you say the same on the same week of Annabel's CC?

 

[Bol85]

I’m not a Bobby fan but I do actually have a lot of respect for him never mentioning his mum. He seems to actively avoid it. I’ve always genuinely thought he was determined to make a name for himself & not drag his mum into it. I mean, it’s obviously unavoidable plus he’s the spit of her so he couldn't hide it even if he wanted too.

The fact he’s said a few times that he doesn’t remember her & therefore it’s a funny one for him makes this scream dodgy to me. I really hope this was his decision & he wasn’t coerced into it. I don’t think any of us would say his thoughts on his mum weren’t valid. He lost his mum, that’s really sad. And it’s complex & very personal. It shouldn’t be reduced to a sob story on Strictly unless Bobby feels it’s something super important for him to do. His previous actions & words suggest otherwise.

 

[louseylou]

Just out of interest did you say the same on the same week of Annabel's CC?

I wasn't aware that Annabel's husband died of cancer since I didn't actually know who Annabel was before she was on Strictly so no, I didn't. Also, since Bobby himself has said he doesn't remember Jade it feels like this is coming from producers and that's the main issue I personally have with it.

 

[Sea]

My impression Bobby likes the song. A dance story had been made for him that he doesn't even know much about yet. Bobby is not being the manipulator here (nor realise he's being used) BBC SCD are being the tossers here.
I don't like the song and I hate contemporary dance so it's from me, but not at Bobby.

 

[louseylou]

I’m not a Bobby fan but I do actually have a lot of respect for him never mentioning his mum. He seems to actively avoid it. I’ve always genuinely thought he was determined to make a name for himself & not drag his mum into it. I mean, it’s obviously unavoidable plus he’s the spit of her so he couldn't hide it even if he wanted too.

The fact he’s said a few times that he doesn’t remember her & therefore it’s a funny one for him makes this scream dodgy to me. I really hope this was his decision & he wasn’t coerced into it. I don’t think any of us would say his thoughts on his mum weren’t valid. He lost his mum, that’s really sad. And it’s complex & very personal. It shouldn’t be reduced to a sob story on Strictly unless Bobby feels it’s something super important for him to do. His previous actions & words suggest otherwise.

Yeah, it would be quite easy for him to bring her up but I've seen interviews where he's been asked about her but he just kind of re-directs the question. It's something that I don't think many people his age would be able to do.

 

[Boring Monday]

I hope this cc hasn’t been forced on Bobby by the producers but we all know the score. Emotional manipulation is Strictly’s MO. Hopefully he’s being given the appropriate support, along with Dianne given her circumstances.

He didn’t grow up with Jade but she’s still his mum. I imagine it must be hard for him knowing that the worst of her was played out in the public eye and she’s remembered by most as either a thick as tit joke figure or a hideous racist. No doubt she was hugely flawed but she was exploited by the likes of Max Clifford worked until she died in order to leave something for her sons so maybe that’s where the song ties in? Who knows. Having to reconcile that she did bad things so publicly while also being a loving mum must be difficult and I think saying “he didn’t even know her” is quite dismissive and actually a bit cruel, imo. Losing a parent so young would have an impact on anyone so I don’t think it’s any worse than anyone else who’s dedicated a dance to a dead loved one.

Having said all that, I think cc should be scrapped and I’ll probably fast forward the vt and clauditorium like I do with almost everyone cos it’s all so contrived anyway.

But it’s Bobby himself who has said he doesn’t really remember her, and that he doesn’t know if what he does remember is from what people have told him and from photographs rather than actual memory.

 

[lizzolyn]

I wasn't aware that Annabel's husband died of cancer since I didn't actually know who Annabel was before she was on Strictly so no, I didn't. Also, since Bobby himself has said he doesn't remember Jade it feels like this is coming from producers and that's the main issue I personally have with it.

Personally I think Amy would be supportive of any contestant who had a loved one pass away from cancer on the show; she posts so much on her social media about raising awareness and she liked Dianne's recent insta post mentioning that they had a special dance coming up this week.

I just hope Bobby doesn't get criticised for crying or being emotional on Saturday because there have been celebs on current and previous series who have dedicated a dance to a loved one we haven't heard of or have no idea about and they have cried then we should afford that moment to everyone; well known deceased family member or not. I think his mum will be mentioned in the VT but it will probably be an amount he feels comfortable with; he might not say anything at all and the bit about his mum might come from his dad saying how proud she would be of him.

 

[louseylou]

Personally I think Amy would be supportive of any contestant who had a loved one pass away from cancer on the show; she posts so much on her social media about raising awareness and she liked Dianne's recent insta post mentioning that they had a special dance coming up this week.

I just hope Bobby doesn't get criticised for crying or being emotional on Saturday because there have been celebs on current and previous series who have dedicated a dance to a loved one we haven't heard of or have no idea about and they have cried then we should afford that moment to everyone; well known deceased family member or not. I think his mum will be mentioned in the VT but it will probably be an amount he feels comfortable with; he might not say anything at all and the bit about his mum might come from his dad saying how proud she would be of him.

I wasn't saying that Amy wouldn't be supportive, I think she would, but it's a bit close to home if you know what I mean, especially since she's just been through it.

I'm not blaming Bobby for this, in an earlier post I actually said that I hoped it was coming from him. The whole thing just reeks of producer manipulation and that's the part I don't like.

 

[sueh21]

bleeping hell this is going to be like Diana’s funeral all over again. I’ll be cynically rolling my eyes at the thought of it until I see the boys who lost their mum and will burst into tears

Perhaps Meghan and Harry will turn up Whole thing sounds hideous to me, just needs Tess with a “look at his ickle face” Hope he goes last in the running order, following it will be tricky.

 

[nicalibres]

But it’s Bobby himself who has said he doesn’t really remember her, and that he doesn’t know if what he does remember is from what people have told him and from photographs rather than actual memory.

No, I meant people insinuating it was weird to dedicate a dance to his mum because he doesn’t remember her. I know he said he has no memory if her but his life will still have been impacted by her loss.

 

[MeghanSnarkle]

I watched an hour long interview/podcast recently with Jeff Brazier where he talks from start to finish about everything regarding him and Jade, how he told the kids their mum was dying, how he coped with the two boys having very different reactions to not having a mum.
It was very clear Freddie opens up Bobby just doesn't/can't .

I was shocked when I heard the concept for their CC it seems very on the nose Bobby playing himself as a child, Dianne playing his mother figure seems a big ask of a 20 year old lad who's never had counseling, idk

 

[Fillyjonk]

My take is that Bobby doesn't really understand what the dance is supposed to represent hence the "my mother, probably" and that worries me considering this dance is supposed to come from his soul and bare his emotions. That's what stinks of producer bullshit but unfortunately it makes him come across inauthentic when really, he's viewing it as any other dance.

He doesn't have the gravitas or emotional maturity for this and that's not his fault as this has obviously been forced on them to pull in the votes by tugging on the old heartstrings.

 

[louseylou]

I watched an hour long interview/podcast recently with Jeff Brazier where he talks from start to finish about everything regarding him and Jade, how he told the kids their mum was dying, how he coped with the two boys having very different reactions to not having a mum.
It was very clear Freddie opens up Bobby just doesn't/can't .

I was shocked when I heard the concept for their CC it seems very on the nose Bobby playing himself as a child, Dianne playing his mother figure seems a big ask of a 20 year old lad who's never had counseling, idk

Maybe because Freddie was that little bit younger it's a bit easier for him to talk about it all because he has to ask more questions about it all.

 

[Bol85]

On a lighter note - who do we need to contact to make this happen?!

 

[lizzolyn]

I wasn't saying that Amy wouldn't be supportive, I think she would, but it's a bit close to home if you know what I mean, especially since she's just been through it.

I'm not blaming Bobby for this, in an earlier post I actually said that I hoped it was coming from him. The whole thing just reeks of producer manipulation and that's the part I don't like.

Take it from me who lost a friend to cancer a few weeks ago the last thing you wanna do is tell a person with cancer where they should or shouldn't go. She may want to rest due to her fractured foot anyways.

Producer manipulation happens on all shows especially reality tv and you can say the same thing about Annabel, Adam, Helen last year the list goes on its not just Bobby; the way he has held himself when taking on criticism from the judges and being in the bottom two last week has been more graceful than I have seen celebs this series and previous more than double his age do. So like I said in a previous post I hope he is afforded the same grace if he shows emotion on Saturday.