Strictly Come Dancing 2022 #3

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thunderlightningx said:
unpopular opinion but rose was the most over rated contestant to grace strictly and she was MILES behind the others in terms of ability on the tour for me, bar max who was awful. I respect what she’s done is admirable and she seems sweet but this obsession with her is ridiculous.


That wasn’t aimed at you personally soccergirl, just in general
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Really. You thought Sara and Tilly were better than Rose? That's quite a bold opinion.
 
thunderlightningx said:
I did personally, just for my liking anyway. The couples choice was underwhelming after the first time they performed it, especially live. Just can’t take to her nor Giovanni, just nothing about them excites me. Sorry.
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Fair enough - I've felt the same with some of the other past winners that many people loved. Bill was an example, I didn't quite get him.

I actually even think Jay was a bit overrated (I might need to hide on that one).
 
glasgow27 said:
Fair enough - I've felt the same with some of the other past winners that many people loved. Bill was an example, I didn't quite get him.

I actually even think Jay was a bit overrated (I might need to hide on that one).
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I agree to an extent on Jay. He was a good dancer and did the routines really well but he didn’t have much of a personality. Yes he could do the steps most probably better than most of the others his year but that was about it. I never really got much of an idea of what Jay as a person was like.
 
Cupid_Stunt said:
I agree to an extent on Jay. He was a good dancer and did the routines really well but he didn’t have much of a personality. Yes he could do the steps most probably better than most of the others his year but that was about it. I never really got much of an idea of what Jay as a person was like.
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He did have some really good dances but there was something missing for me and I'd probably agree that it was partly personality based, he was just a bit blank. I guess the fact that Danny was on the following year maybe made Jay look a lot weaker in comparison.
 
Cupid_Stunt said:
I agree to an extent on Jay. He was a good dancer and did the routines really well but he didn’t have much of a personality. Yes he could do the steps most probably better than most of the others his year but that was about it. I never really got much of an idea of what Jay as a person was like.
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Isn’t that the case with lots of the winners though? I had zero idea what Kelvin was like (bar liking Brexit and upskirting apparently). Joe McF? Louis Smith? Harry Judd? I feel like either they’re personalities people already know well (Bill, Caroline) or they come across as normal and down to earth so people like them (Ore, Rose, Stacey) even if they’re not necessarily the best dancer. I liked Jay, loved his dancing and found him quietly funny.
 
glasgow27 said:
Fair enough - I've felt the same with some of the other past winners that many people loved. Bill was an example, I didn't quite get him.

I actually even think Jay was a bit overrated (I might need to hide on that one).
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i feel exactly the same on bill - lovely man and a good dancer but maisie had one of the best finals ever and should have won that year imo. i knew she wouldn’t because people had already written her off as a professional dancer though.

also thought jay was overrated. can’t really remember any of his dances and always thought his jive was massively overhyped (and only has ten seconds of actual jive in it). i think his shyness helped him over the line with the voters because i never saw him get the usual “ringer” wailing that a young guy able to dance like that would have got 🤷🏼‍♀️

soccergirl said:
Isn’t that the case with lots of the winners though? I had zero idea what Kelvin was like (bar liking Brexit and upskirting apparently). Joe McF? Louis Smith? Harry Judd? I feel like either they’re personalities people already know well (Bill, Caroline) or they come across as normal and down to earth so people like them (Ore, Rose, Stacey) even if they’re not necessarily the best dancer. I liked Jay, loved his dancing and found him quietly funny.
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joe macfadden’s win continues to amaze me. someone upthread rightly pointed out though that he maybe won more for people turning on alexandra and debbie rather than for himself. i never got a feeling for his personality but he did get some of katya’s best work!

louis smith won off that dirty dancing lift. he never truly looked like he was having a good time to me but then appears to have kept up the dancing afterwards!
 
I have to say Jay was the first ever contestant I got properly invested in 🤦.

Not talking mad AJ/Kai levels of investment though, just the first time I really 'got' Strictly - was just a casual viewer before that. I think a lot of it was because him and Aliona had such great chemistry, and he was good, but there was always a genuine risk he could balls it all up. I thought he had a good sense of humour too, but I get why a lot of people thought he was a bit unassuming and boring (and I kind of think that a bit now too ha)

Possible controversial opinion, but I always thought Maisie got a slightly unfair ringer tag - yes she went to stage school as a child but she was 19 when she was on Strictly - hardly the same level of professional experience as someone like Ashley Roberts or other contestants who'd done loads of musical theatre (I also think there was a bit of underlying snobbishness to a lot of the criticism of her)
 
LowCalCalzoneZone said:
Possible controversial opinion, but I always thought Maisie got a slightly unfair ringer tag - yes she went to stage school as a child but she was 19 when she was on Strictly - hardly the same level of professional experience as someone like Ashley Roberts or other contestants who'd done loads of musical theatre (I also think there was a bit of underlying snobbishness to a lot of the criticism of her)
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not controversial to me! i think a large proportion of strictly voters think that going to stage school makes you a ~*trained dancer*~ whereas it’s maybe a few basic dance classes amongst other lessons, it’s completely possible to have been to stage school and be an absolutely terrible dancer! likewise it’s possible to do musical theatre and not be able to or have to dance much, but people seem to think that doing musicals means you’re tap dancing all over the place 🤣

maisie, for some reason, seemed to get hit by that logic more than most, and i have no idea why, there was a rumour going around on twitter that she was a trained ballet dancer!

to say someone is a professional dancer to me means that they are trained to a high level and have, at some point, made a living through dancing. in strictly terms, only debbie mcgee and ashley roberts (to my knowledge) have ever fit that bill and so are the only true ringers the show has ever had.
 
LaBlonde said:
not controversial to me! i think a large proportion of strictly voters think that going to stage school makes you a ~*trained dancer*~ whereas it’s maybe a few basic dance classes amongst other lessons, it’s completely possible to have been to stage school and be an absolutely terrible dancer! likewise it’s possible to do musical theatre and not be able to or have to dance much, but people seem to think that doing musicals means you’re tap dancing all over the place 🤣

maisie, for some reason, seemed to get hit by that logic more than most, and i have no idea why, there was a rumour going around on twitter that she was a trained ballet dancer!

to say someone is a professional dancer to me means that they are trained to a high level and have, at some point, made a living through dancing. in strictly terms, only debbie mcgee and ashley roberts (to my knowledge) have ever fit that bill and so are the only true ringers the show has ever had.
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I remember Debbie saying something about how because she knew how to take choreography instructions, that saved a lot of time in their training? (I suspect knowing how to dance saved a lot of time too ha)

But yeah, I agree - for me proper ringers are those who have danced professionally before or had quite a few years experience on the stage. It sometimes feels a bit unfair to write someone off because they had a few dances classes as a kid (although strangely, Kelvin and John didn't seem to get as much criticism as Maisie on that front...)
 
LowCalCalzoneZone said:
I remember Debbie saying something about how because she knew how to take choreography instructions, that saved a lot of time in their training? (I suspect knowing how to dance saved a lot of time too ha)

But yeah, I agree - for me proper ringers are those who have danced professionally before or had quite a few years experience on the stage. It sometimes feels a bit unfair to write someone off because they had a few dances classes as a kid (although strangely, Kelvin and John didn't seem to get as much criticism as Maisie on that front...)
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i laughed at that too. yes, debbie, i imagine having been a professional ballet dancer helps you follow basic choreography too 🤣

maisie definitely seemed to get it worse than most: but then i think the younger female dancers always do. it also didn’t help her that she was consistently “good” and so didn’t have a journey or a narrative that people could latch onto. john had fairly obviously taken dance lessons, and recently
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“stage school” just seems to be a trigger word for a lot of voters. maisie, danny, karim and probably loads more all got labelled with it 🤦🏼‍♀️
 
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