Strictly Come Dancing 2022 #21

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I haven’t voted for Fleur for no other reason than my votes are there to be ‘won’ on the night and there are so many strong characters this year with various reasons, I’ve voted for other people - it doesn’t mean I hate Fleur or anyone else for any nefarious reason and I hope I’m not alone in that.

She hasn’t deserved to be in the dance off and she certainly has not deserved any of the carry on about the fall. I’m not sure what I’m trying to say and I know it’s social media (which can be a complete cesspit) people are talking about…I guess I’m just not loving the idea that even here, if you don’t vote for someone you’re a woman hating bigot when the reality is, I’ve got a personal connection (not them as people but their experience - AA/Tony for example) to a couple of the dancers and Hamza just makes everything seem ok in the world for a while. It’s ok for someone, male or female, to not be your cup of tea.
That’s totally fair, everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want and if they don’t connect with someone then there’s absolutely no issue in not voting for them! I think a lot of my issue isn’t really the voting but more the abuse she’s been getting on social media, she comes across as a really lovely person so it’s just confusing to me why people dislike her so much? I said it earlier but I feel like regardless of how she does tonight she will be in the dance off.
 
omg i’ll add that to the list 🤣 “not have a birthday during the show because manipulating us”

rose was lightning in a bottle really. great combo with a popular pro, had almost every aspect that the audience enjoys in a female dancer.

now that i’ve written all that i genuinely am shocked that both kara and jill won. kara did have a lovely thing going with artem though so i wonder how much that helped (it seems so long ago that i can’t remember! i only remember them kissing when she won and being shook)
Jill benefited from being an early series contestant. She was ringer material.

I remember A training VT for The Jive <genuflects> when she asked Darren if it was slowed for her. When he said he was, she said to do it full speed because she didn’t want to hold back. These days she would be burnt at the stake for that!
 
Has fleur deserved to be in the dance off.. no because there have been worse dancers than her that escaped the DO.

However she’s unfortunately been sitting in the dangerous middle of the leaderboard. She suffered in movie week by following Tyler’s Charleston and probably ended up being ever so slightly forgettable especially when Tony’s full monty samba came shortly afterwards. Again on Halloween with a dodgy theme/music and she ended up overshadowed by others with better theming (will/Tony/Tyler/Helen).

I think the other issue is this year is that aside from Molly who is a league above. The women are on a very similar even playing field and despite probably being the weakest celeb left Ellie S will have a loyal set of fans voting for her simply for being a gold medalist para athlete and because she’s inspiring.

I’m also not really sure she’s improved as much as others (Tony/kym/Helen) either. She’s obviously got the potential to be a dancer but I’m not sure ballroom/Latin is her thing she’d probably be a fab commercial dancer. I think she’d shine in a funky upbeat couples choice.

She’s never given me any vibes of being cocky or a difficult little madam unlike a few past contestants. She seems a lovely pleasant person who is trying her best. As always with some people I wonder if she’d have done better in a different year with a different pro.
 
i fell foul of that with both nancy d’elio and jerry hall 🤣 both tall and elegant looking women, until they danced. completely agree that women are expected to have natural grace, and i think a lot of us are guilty of that assumption too!

the relationship that strictly voters have with female contestants is really complex imo. it takes a very particular type of woman to win this show and looking back it’s amazing that kara did. i can’t tell you how many times i’ve seen a “oh i just don’t like her, there’s something about her” aimed at a female contestant whereas men can (for the most part) sail on through. if tony was a woman would she get all of the “go on toni! she’s giving it her best shot!” comments that he’s getting? it’s very strange and rooted in something i can’t quite put my finger on 🤣

anne w is probably the best example of the above but even then, i always felt that people were laughing at her.
Yeah but that’s because The Widdecombe is basically <redacted have to make do with> 😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡
 
Has fleur deserved to be in the dance off.. no because there have been worse dancers than her that escaped the DO.

However she’s unfortunately been sitting in the dangerous middle of the leaderboard. She suffered in movie week by following Tyler’s Charleston and probably ended up being ever so slightly forgettable especially when Tony’s full monty samba came shortly afterwards. Again on Halloween with a dodgy theme/music and she ended up overshadowed by others with better theming (will/Tony/Tyler/Helen).

I think the other issue is this year is that aside from Molly who is a league above. The women are on a very similar even playing field and despite probably being the weakest celeb left Ellie S will have a loyal set of fans voting for her simply for being a gold medalist para athlete and because she’s inspiring.

I’m also not really sure she’s improved as much as others (Tony/kym/Helen) either. She’s obviously got the potential to be a dancer but I’m not sure ballroom/Latin is her thing she’d probably be a fab commercial dancer. I think she’d shine in a funky upbeat couples choice.

She’s never given me any vibes of being cocky or a difficult little madam unlike a few past contestants. She seems a lovely pleasant person who is trying her best. As always with some people I wonder if she’d have done better in a different year with a different pro.
The problem is that the worst dancers who escaped the dance off now are either pulling in the lion’s share of the public votes or getting a sympathy pass for one bad dance … leaving the clumped up middle of the board extremely vulnerable. Last week, she was tied on points with Will and Helen so they fact they out ranked her in the public vote isn’t really a shocker. The only people below her were James who was actually in the dance off, Ellie S playing the bad dance card and Tony going nowhere till after Blackpool. Just above her were Mollie on a bottom 2 bounce and Hamza so no chance. Really, the leaderbaord ties are as much to blame as anything.
 

I didn’t follow Rose particularly closely when that story was posted, but it seems like a joke that misfired tbh. Considering they went on to work successfully for a number of weeks more, spend time together socially and work together again (including filming in Italy with his family) it can’t have really demonstrated a bigger behind the scenes issue.

On Facebook/DS there is a slightly patronising narrative of ‘delicate, poor Rose’ which I don’t think is the case at all- she is a grown woman who has been working in theatre and tv for a while. In Dan Walker’s book she mentions that after the semi final she was exhausted and struggling and Gio was pretty firm with her and told her to stop giving up, but that it helped her. I think she can handle herself ok.
 
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TBF I am pretty sure 'stupid cow' was about Maura as they broke up a couple of days later... But yes, he milked (and is still milking that 'romance')

Ooh I found the video that was posted here last year. Gio was raging!


I don't even think it's Gio who says it. Sounds very English, like it was Kai.
 
Can someone explain to me why Gio, in response to anything negative about this year’s Strictly, he says that it doesn’t count because he’s not competing? Does he think because he was eliminated early the series didn’t happen for him?
 
That’s totally fair, everyone is entitled to vote for whoever they want and if they don’t connect with someone then there’s absolutely no issue in not voting for them! I think a lot of my issue isn’t really the voting but more the abuse she’s been getting on social media, she comes across as a really lovely person so it’s just confusing to me why people dislike her so much? I said it earlier but I feel like regardless of how she does tonight she will be in the dance off.
She’s definitely on the receiving end of Shirley’s typical venom and I think there probably is some folk will go by what the Judges said. I’ve kind of avoided social media around it because it’s just so grim all the time!

I hope she’ll be safe tonight, she’s certainly not the worst dancer.
 
Can someone explain to me why Gio, in response to anything negative about this year’s Strictly, he says that it doesn’t count because he’s not competing? Does he think because he was eliminated early the series didn’t happen for him?
He sounds like a toddler throwing his toys out of the pram. I think he thought that him and Richie would be a repeat of John and Johannes which they clearly weren't.
 
I never watched their socials but didn't they have this faux 'We hate each other really' theme going on?
Pretty much, yeah. They definitely posted at least a couple of other videos where they were jokingly insulting each other. For example, there was one where they were getting their makeup done and he comments, totally deadpan 'because you really need it,' and she immediately, gleefully replies that you'd need a huge towel to wipe all his makeup off and underneath his face is like a foot. 😂

So yeah, I lean towards thinking the 'stupid cow' controversy was just one of their weird jokes. Or maybe he was talking about Maura. 🤷‍♀️
 
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He sounds like a toddler throwing his toys out of the pram. I think he thought that him and Richie would be a repeat of John and Johannes which they clearly weren't.

He obviously pushed for it as a ticket out of duffer duty assuming he'd have a John 2.0 partner. What he didn't realise is that they can easily give him a male partner with no chance of winning.

Now he's used up that card, I wonder if he'll try and push for any celeb next year and get them.
 
Can someone explain to me why Gio, in response to anything negative about this year’s Strictly, he says that it doesn’t count because he’s not competing? Does he think because he was eliminated early the series didn’t happen for him?
I dunno, given that he also said the line in the scripted ITT bit, makes me think it might not even have come from him.
 
I don't even think it's Gio who says it. Sounds very English, like it was Kai.
It's defo Gio. If I recall correctly, that morning Maura had posted from his flat, then they must have had a huge bust-up as I don't think they were seen together again.

I think the Rio shipping started then, once he was safely single
 
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